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Explain this to me...why are you a frontrunner if you are a Buckeyes fan?Zips fans should have no problem with Buckeyes fans, as long as they root for the Zips too. My problem with Buckeyes fans is when they go to school with me, and say they don't care about Akron.That frontrunning attitude really chaps my ass. -
I'm a frontrunner because I like Ohio State? FYI, I started watching OSU football and basketball games when I was 7 years old as both of my parents grew up OSU fans as well. I've followed them ever since, close to 20 years now. Because I graduated from Akron, they come first and foremost obviously, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to stop rooting for the Buckeyes either when they dont even play UA. Zen hit the nail on the head...get over it manYour right, people won't stop buying OSU merchandise, no one said that. I said "more" which means that because they're not going far in the tournament, you won't see a big increase in sales. I have nothing against you for being a front runner but please read things correctly. -
Yes, people will stop buying OSU merchadise now because the Buckeyes lost in the 2nd Round and the NCAA Tourney...that will happen. Too bad they have the best high school player and the best recruiting class in the nation coming in next year...keep it up though Buckeye haters!OSU bent over and got spanked. The last thing Akron needs is more OSU merchandise being sold around here
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Fast service needed in Electronics...who is responding?Not bad...I'm impressed. I used to work at Target in Cuyahoga Falls and would see DP in there from time to time. He did have a woman and a baby with him...maybe it was his sister...
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Go to Lids at Chapel Hill mall...got some very sweet Zips hats there
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So basically you said the same things that I've argued against, but this time used a dictionary...
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"This hour of music is brought to you by Balki Bartokomous. Balki is famous in Akron for his unknown hatred of Tom Beck and his extremely limited vocabulary. To contact Balki, send him an email through ZipsNation.org. Balki Bartokomous making this hour of music possible for you"
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The Buchtellite has had a few real morons write for them in the past, and I think that is why you recieved the "no comment". Unfortunately, these idiots have at times overshadowed the always-top-notch sports coverage the Buchtellite has. If some of the other departments became more like the sports department, the paper would be amazing IMO. As for the University and WZIP discussing covering sports, just trust me...not WZIP's fault. Finally, I'm going to choose not to respond to Balki Bartokomous. Looking at his past two posts, I'd probably be better off discussing this issue with the stray cat that hangs out outside of my apartment.Not that this is about the Buchtelite, but I'll say it's far from worthless. Of the hundreds of college newspapers I've seen, the Buchtelite ranks among the top when it comes to university sports coverage.I've never met Tom, so I don't want to pass judgment. However, everyone who works/has worked for him says he is the nicest guy in the world. Very professional. Very classy. On the other hand, several people have said he's a scumbag. I really don't know who to believe.My only contact with him was when he refused to comment on a Buchtelite story about them cancelling the gospel programming on the weekends.By the way, I know for a fact that the athletic department approached Beck about broadcasting the games a couple years back. In fact, a guy who is worshipped here told me that. It WAS NOT the athletic department holding that deal back.Edit: Also, nonprofit does not necessarily mean you cannot sell ads, make partnerships, etc.. The Buchtelite is nonprofit yet we sell ads. From my understanding, there are small hurdles that probably wouldn't hold back the Zips from being broadcast on WZIP. -
With the money is costs to operate a radio station, hire a staff, etc etc etc...why? Why do that when you already have the best college radio station in the United States? To broadcast games? And what else would they do?Yeah, so, how would it be bad to have another station? -
Do you know anything about WZIP? Seriously...I'm not being sarcastic. If you don't think it's a realistic experience for media students, you need to take a tour. The equipment for both the radio and TV programs are on par with most major commercial stations. Members of the radio sports team attend Akron, Cavaliers, Indians, and Browns games with media credentials… they call in updates, asking the athletes question in the post game press conference…they write articles for the website, perform and edit interviews with athletes…they cover local high school basketball and football games, doing commentary for each. You will get no better of a “realistic experience than you get at WZIP. Also, in looking at what WZIP does for the University, you can’t look at just advertisements. Do you realize how many high school students listen and hear about a different Akron program every hour? Do you realize how much the community is tied to WZIP and the University through other messages read by the DJ’s on the station? For the amount of money it takes to operate WZIP (most of which THEY pay for, not UA), they do a hell of a lot for the University of Akron.One with commercial interests that actually competes in the radio market with advertising. It could generate revenue for the university, give the media students more realistic experience, and also allow a better outlet for game coverage. -
Why?Maybe the university needs two stations? -
I love all the OSU haters...lol...GO ZIPS! GO BUCKS!
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Man you guys ripping in to WZIP and their general manager are complete idiots. That is the classiest organization on campus. There were discussions before about games being broadcast on WZIP that I know a great deal about...and while that's not something I am going to talk about, trust me, WZIP wasn't the one holding back the idea from working out. To zipsbandman, just because you don't listen to the station doesn't make it worthless. As many pointed out, the station is the #1 college station IN THE UNITED STATES and regularly competes with top stations in the area. And they do so with 3-4 hired staff members and the rest students. No offense to the Buchtelite, because they do have some good writers...but to even compare them to WZIP is just plain silly. As for Balki Bartokomous, do you even know WZIP's GM? Judging by your opinion of the guy, you don't. He is one of the finest staff members this University has. I don't know what your beef is, or if you maybe requested Britney Spears and they wouldn't play it or something, but the next time you open your mouth make sure you know what you're talking about. I've never called someone a moron on this forum...and...well, there's gotta be a first for everything. You, sir, are a moron. As others have said, why all the hate for WZIP? I guess when a program has as much success as they have had you're going to get jealous haters...it's just sad.
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The students have tried. We wave and motion our arms for them to stand at big moments...we try to get them to join us in chants. Nothing has worked thus far. I don't see this as disrespect. We've shown appreciation to them for coming. As I said, me and my friends always try to tlak to the alumni we see and let them know we appreciate them coming out. My buddy even gave one an extra Fear the Roo shirt at one of the home games because they said they hadnt gotten a chance to buy one yet. The students arent claiming to be perfect either...we need to step it up a notch too. Look around...you think Ohio State's alumni sit there quietly? Do you think Gonzaga's does? Heck, even Can't State's alumni gets into it (although we need to remain classy). Those are top notch, winning programs. Deep down, you know that if this school is ever going to get any kind of attention, locally or nationally, that the team has to win and the fans have to become a factor. Can you imagine if the students became more organized...if more of them came out...and if the alumni started chiming in on the defense and let's go Zips chants? My god...we were undefeated at home this year with a couple hundred students making all the noise...can you imagine how much other teams would fear coming to the JAR if the entire crowd participated? The students have accepted that challenge. They've tried to become more organized, tried to get their peers out to more games, tried to be loud and proud at every game...and it's a work in progress...still not there. But the students realize that to become a major program, we have to act like it, and have started to try to improve themselves. Alumni can follow suit...or they can say they are disrespected, or complain about how we don't appreciate them, or talk about how they were there 30-40 years ago, or whatever they want to talk about...With as much energy as it's taking for excuses, you'd think that they could clap their hands and say defense every few minutes...I love how people think an antagonist attack is going to movtivate people. You would think that someone who is in, or graduated from college would have a better understanding of human nature than this. If you want the "oldies" to pick it up a bit, do you really think that bitching and fighting will encourage them to see it your way? I mean hell, we are supposed to be on the same side here. -
Hey it's my opinion, and obviously there are others who feel the same way. And in 40 years if I forget that I can help out the students out with some cheers or by doing a defense chant and clapping my hands, I hope some young grad "bitches" at me and reminds me of what to do. Coming to the games is a great way of supporting the team, and it's appreciated...but if we ever want to be a top notch program, that includes fans who make a difference in the game. Just my opinion...you can get defensive and say I'm disrespecting the alumni...but in my eyes, me and others who have said they need to be more involved are doing so because we know they are great fans, and we know that both us and them have yet to reach our full potential as a home crowd.Hey, you're the one telling people how to act. There are people at the games that have been doing so for 30, 40, 50 years. You seem to think that you can shoot your mouth off at these long time fans because they don't meet your level of enthusiasm. The only thing I hold against you is your incessant need to tell others they aren't doing enough. Back off on the criticism, we're all Zip fans. I guess we'll never agree on this issue. I hope in 40 years some young grad isn't bitching at you.
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I just love when people think they know you through an Internet message board! For your information, I've been a Zips fan since 1998, when my sister first attended the school. I started going to games then, came to UA in 2000, and have been to just about every home contest ever since (work conflicted at times). I have gone to road games, the MAC tourney every year, etc. I graduated in December and continue to follow the Zips for as long as I live. If you want to hold it against me that I was born later than you, that's fine. Whatever makes you feel better. Want to call me a loudmouth? Whatever. Again, if that makes you feel good about yourself, that's cool. Just don't try acting like you know anything about me or what kind of fan I am just because we disagree on something.
That's just it, you don't have the right to tell anyone to do more. You are suffering from delusions of grandeur. The truth is you're a loud mouth who has been a zip fan for what, one or two years? Keep on rooting for the team, just don't tell anyone what they have to do because it doesn't meet your standards! As for me, you have nothing on me. I've been cheering for the Zips since I was an undergraduate. Actions speak louder than words. And the ak-oldies you don't respect, show it with every sporting event they attend.Hey, you can look at it any way you want to. It's not alumni bashing...I just got done praising them for all they give to the Zips...I just asked for more. Hey, if you're happy with the JAR getting noisy for 1 or 2 games a year, that's fine. But if you want more, if you want us to become a top mid-major, everyone's going to have to step it up. You can take offense all you want...maybe too much truth coming out? Hey, at least this discussion has brought some life to ya...and it's not even the Can't game!
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I wrote out a response, then read mrelegazna's, so...what he said
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Gimme a break UADavid...and please, stop talking down to me like I'm a 5 year old. Me wearing an OHIO STATE hat has no effect on any game, anyone on this board, or the Zips in general. How people act and cheer at AKRON games are open for discussion because it is related to Zips sports and has a direct effect on games. Nice try though
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Amen...eventually we'll get one of the lower sections...I hopeWell look at any big time college basketball team. take the ACC for examaple. all of the stadiums have the students surrounding the court, excpet for floor seats. If we want to be a big time program i think this is one step in the right direction. Kick at least one side of the old people out next year and make it a student section, it will only make the stadium louder and have a better college basketball atmosphere. Side note: has anyone been to a major conference basketball game. if so when. i been to a duke v. unc and game a duke v. maryland game. along with 2 other games the people there are absolutly nuts this is how the rowdies could eventually be if we start moving the oldies out of the lower sections. -
I do think a MAC team upsetting OSU in football would be big...but do you really think people in Ohio (in general) would all the sudden think the MAC was on the same level? I don't think they would...it'd be looked at as a fluke both locally and nationally. Now, that wouldn't be true IMO...just saying...it wouldn't change that much. For the MAC to get that respect locally and nationally they'd need to beat OSU and other Big Ten schools at at least a decent rate before people put them on the same level. Let's face it...and I say this as a die-hard Zips fan and a secondary Buckeyes fan...we simply aren't on the same level as them. I'm sorry...I wish it was different...trust me, I do...but we're not. The Buckeyes were a national title contender in football last year and will be again next year...they are currently a contender for it in basketball, and will only get better next year. Greg Oden, their star recruit coming in next year, could be the #1 pick in the draft if he went pro. We'll never sniff a national title, nor will we ever get recruits good enough to be the #1 pick in the NBA Draft out of high school. It sucks...and while I do believe the Zips can turn themselvbes into a much bigger and better program, I'm sorry...I don't ever see them being on the same level as OSU. Rip into mea ll you want...I wish it wasnt true..but it's reality. The Zips football team could go undefeated next year and they'd be lucky to get a BCS game, let alone sniff the National Title. As for wearing Buckeyes stuff, gimme a break...hey, some people aren't OSU fans too...that's fine. But that doesn't give anyone the right to tell me what team's gear I can or can't wear. Funny, nobody complains about seeing people wear gear from Notre Dame, Michigan, and other schools that aren't Akron...
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Hey, you can look at it any way you want to. It's not alumni bashing...I just got done praising them for all they give to the Zips...I just asked for more. Hey, if you're happy with the JAR getting noisy for 1 or 2 games a year, that's fine. But if you want more, if you want us to become a top mid-major, everyone's going to have to step it up. You can take offense all you want...maybe too much truth coming out? Hey, at least this discussion has brought some life to ya...and it's not even the Can't game!It's not up to you or me to say what level of support is appropriate for the alumni or anyone else for that matter. The fact that they support the team, however they choose to do so, should be enough for anyone. They don't need to stand on their head to prove themselves to me or you. We aren't all clones that say and do the same things, but we are all zip fans and I am offended that this argument is even being made. I say that as an '86 graduate who screams and yells at the games. To each his own and I hope we can put this alumni bashing (yes, that's what it is) to rest. Really, who the hell are you to tell them to step it up a notch.
I'll bet many of the oldtimers have been following the zips longer than you have been talking. 
Let's stop judging the ak oldies and support the zips.
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Look, this is turning into an Alumni vs. students thing, and that's silly. We're all Akron fans obviously. And obviously, both sides need work with the program. I've been sitting in the student section for 5 years and have seen a total change in the process. It used to be a few students sprinkled throughout the sections...it sucked, trust me, I was there. It was a big deal if we could get a defense chant. Let's be honest...that was when Akron was a mediocre school with mediocre sports programs. And I'll give it up to the alumni who were there when the students weren't. Things have changed since then. The school has become one of the better ones in Ohio, and is slowly turning from a commuter school to one that has students who actually stick around on weekends (biggest problem right there for student attendance). This year, the football team stepped up at the end of the season. So did the fans, students and alumni alike...10,000+ to Detroit was wonderful. Then the basketball team stepped up with a 20+ win season. For the first time, the student sedction was filled for most games. But that wasn't enough. The students made every attempt to DO MORE, coming up with player chants, team chants, and becoming a real factor in the game for the first time at the JAR. They knew that it was an improvement being there, but that to become a big time mid-major program, they needed to do more. THEY STEPPED UP. The alumni do come to the games and many have been for a long, long time. And that is greatly appreciated...really, it is. Whenever I saw alumni walking through the Q last week I'd always give them a high five and/or thank them for coming out. But just coming is not good enough anymore. Alumi needs to DO MORE. Look around at the other mid-major programs. They're alumni and students are loud and proud. They make it difficult to play against their teams at home. Can you imagine if the entire lower half of the JAR was in together on a defense chant? How deafening could that be? Nobody is saying the alumni aren't true fans. We know they are...trust me. The alumni has always been there, and this year, the students stepped up to match them by showing up just as much as they did. The students then took it to the next level, becoming a serious factor in the game with chants, cheers, and noise. Now it's time for the alumni to step it up a notch as well...
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From reading your columns, I would expect more from you. How can you just stereotype a Buckeye fan? Am I a Buckeyes fan as well as a Zips fan? Yes. Do I think OSU has a better athletic program than any other college in Ohio? Yes, overall, I do. Do I think they are the only college in Ohio? Hell no. I think the state is full of great basketball programs, like Cincy, Can't, and now Akron. Football has produced some very good squads recently, such as Akron, BG, Miami, and Toledo. I've sat next to a few AK-Rowdies that are straight up embarassing in how they act and speak to others. Does that mean that all AK-Rowdies are idiots? Hell no...I know that the large majority of our group are great, knowledgable, respectable fans...I don't stereotype the group because of a few bad apples. Please quit doing the same to Buckeyes fans based on what a few friends are like, or (I'm guessing) because of a personal distaste for OSU.It's not about competing on the field, or in recruiting.Ohio State is a rival for fans. If you know a lot of Buckeyes fans like I do, you will know that they think OSU is the only college that matters in this state. -
Hey, we can agree to disagree. Have you ever sat in the upper level? You can't even watch the game. From the barrier, to the people walking, to being up high...you might as well stay at home. Just my opinion. And nobody said the alumni weren't fans. We appreciate them showing up. We just feel that if we're now asking for more from the team, we need to ask more from the fans...as RowdyZip said, showing up is no longer enough.
Worst excuse I have ever heard. "I don't want to go to a free basketball game where my team is playing because the bleacher seats aren't very good."If that is truely some students excuse, we are better off if they stay home.Fan stands for "fanatic", not "well I'll go to see them if I get seats behind the hoop for free."Sure it's fun to sit behind the hoop, but a real fan will sit anywhere to see there team.Just ask Browns fans.JAR needs redone so we can get more students down below to make a ton of noise.I am guessing if Mack is as good as I heard he is, this will happen sooner than later.Good topic. Story in the Buchtelite could have been more extensive.I still like the idea of an alumni section too.Where are the rest of the students? Sitting up in the bleachers or sitting at home because you can't see jack sitting in those bleachers...that's where. But at least the alumni got on another team for 1/13 games...
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I'm so tired of this "we gotta beat OSU to get respect crap". Sorry people...the MAC is and will continue to be disrespected. It's BS, but it's the truth. Look at basketball...Can't State makes it to the Elite Eight, a few other tourney appearances, has 8 consecutive 20 win seasons, and still, had they lost the MAC Title game wouldn't have touched an at large. People don't look at it as the MAC should be respected...they look at it as it was a one year wonder. Trust me, for those of you that think if Akron beat OSU in a football game that they'd all the sudden be put in the same class as folks, you're fooling yourselves. It'd be looked at as a fluke. They'd have to do it constantly AND dominate the MAC to get that kind of respect...and I frankly just don't see that happening. Face it, OSU is the premier university athletic program in Ohio. The history, the tradition, the national recognition, the fan support, and the lots and lots of winning have put them head and shoulders against the rest of the Ohio schools. And if you think that's changing anytime soon, maybe you better look at the rankings for basketball recruiting classes coming in next year (Greg Oden anyone?), or at some of the recruits OSU brought in (Wells, etc). Both of their football and basketball teams will be competing for a National Title, while we just hope to make it back to the postseason at all. They are a major program, we are a mid-major...you can root against them or talk about fans not being faithful if they cheer for them or whatever else...but nothing's going to change the current situation.