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It is. I posted one of my brilliant posts about what college football should do to reform itself. The answer is not splitting the money more evenly.The answer is creating a separate division of college football with the best 40 teams of the last 40 years. Four divisions of ten teams. Those 40 teams must play everyone in their division and only teams from the other divisions. Out of division games are against the teams that finished in the same ranking in their divisions from the previous year. 12 games a year. At the end of the year, the first place teams of every division have a four team playoff. Then they can have the playoff everyone wants. They should also pay the players who play in this 40 team group. If universities are going to rake in cash, so should the players...most at these schools are bringing in money under the table, they my as well pay them in the open.The answer isn't to limit the money, the answer is to let the money teams have theirs while letting the lesser money producers more effectively compete against one another at their own level.It seems anti-capitalist to suggest a more even split of the money -
Good question. 35% is way to generous, but it is the holiday season. Look at it as the overall percent of ooc games. The football team played really 2.5 of their 4 ooc games last year against teams they shouldn't be able to beat. That's 62.5% of the ooc games. Let's look at reality though.In order for the bb team to play that percentage of ooc games against BCS level competition, it would be between 8-10 games. Just as crippling as what the football team does. If the bb team plays 15 ooc games, I don't think it is unreasonable for them to go to the ATM three times a year. That would only be 20% of the ooc games. BTW, the football team should only go to the ATM 25%.Right now, our bb program is good enough that they can weather that storm and destroy the crap that is the MAC. It's time for them to start contributing to the bank a little more.
And that's fine, but at what balance? You say that football scheduling cripples the program but they schedule maybe 2 "unwinnable" games a year. We'll call it 1.5 because for the most part we do Big 10 monster (OSU, Wisc, PSU) and then Big East/Big 10 minor (Cinci, Syracuse, UConn, Indiana) which under normal circumstances are about a 35% chance of a win (decent odds). That equates to 12% of the schedule. (you say that is crippling)Your 3 money games for baskeball would be roughly 11% of the schedule. How is that not "crippling"?I'll repeat an earlier theme from today. You don't play the UNCs of the world to increase your ranking in any poll. You do it to rake in cash. New facilities have to be paid for.There was just a great Outside the Lines show on facility growth in college athletics and how unsustainable it is for most schools. Under our current "growth" plan for college athletics we need to decide if we are really going to pay for all of these sports facilities or are we going to just let them sit there while the taxpayers of Ohio pay for them.I don't want to cripple the bb program like the football program has been crippled, but it needs to generate some more cash for the sake of the entire Athletic Department. -
I mentioned in an earlier post the Knight Commission Report on the financial state of college athletics. This is the report. I find it to be an eye opener and cause for concern. It's rather long so give yourself some time.
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I'll repeat an earlier theme from today. You don't play the UNCs of the world to increase your ranking in any poll. You do it to rake in cash. New facilities have to be paid for.There was just a great Outside the Lines show on facility growth in college athletics and how unsustainable it is for most schools. Under our current "growth" plan for college athletics we need to decide if we are really going to pay for all of these sports facilities or are we going to just let them sit there while the taxpayers of Ohio pay for them.I don't want to cripple the bb program like the football program has been crippled, but it needs to generate some more cash for the sake of the entire Athletic Department.
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I agree.Fan boards tend to look at the world as if it is still the 1950s and this is a good example of it. It's easy to say a player should stay for the coach. In reality, the coaches are using the players just as much as the players use the coaches. Porter received a fat contract at UofA because of his efforts and the efforts of his players. The players recieve nothing more than a scholarship to UofA. The fans receive a good event when they pay to go to a game. After the game is over, the players and coaches have lived up to their obligations to the fans.Congratulations to this young man for realizing his dreams.
This is foolishness. These guys played their hearts out for Zips Fans, including you. And you begrudge them the opportunity to realize a dream of being paid to play the game they love?I don't get it.Go Zips!Well i guess they will have fun playing Minor League Soccer here in America when they could be becoming legends at the Pouch. If such a mass departure does occur, it is a stab in the back to the fans.
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I have a somewhat different spin on why the Zips need to play larger schools on the road regardless of whether or not they will come to Akron.Five years ago, this was a good schedule based upon what the Zips Athletic Department was doing. Today, we have a new stadium that needs to be paid for. We have a new soccer stadium in the works. We have a new BB arena that is being looked into down the road. At some point, money has to come in to pay for all of this. That point is NOW. The two largest financial outlays are The Big Phone Booth and the fieldhouse. The "building" is over and now they need to bring money to support them.As I see it, the three sports with the best chance to fund the Athletic Department are football, MBB and soccer. Soccer is pulling their financial weight and they can't do more than what they have done this season with the stadium they have. Football set attendance records and they play an OOC schedule that is good for the accountants, but horrible for the program long term.MBasketball is pulling their weight in the winning category. The problem is some of the teams they are playing at home OOC are horrible and nobody is willing to pay money to go see them. The Zips need to bring in more money by mixing in a UNC or some other teams they will more than likely lose to, cash the checks and move on to the other games. I don't think 2-3 games a year like this would hurt the team because they have good coaching and good talent to get past it. If I was the new AD, I would take the scheduling in a different direction regardless of what the coach wanted to do. I'm not saying the football suicide schedule is the answer (in fact, it's moronic), I'm just saying they need to go out and grab some more money.
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Excellent quote!It reminds me of one of my favorite golf quotes, "100% of the putts that come up short of the cup don't go in."the bottom line is that you can't win games you don't schedule. -
Good post!The MAC has gotten so bad in just about everything, it's hard to pinpoint exactly what has happened. The answer is difficult, so the solution is probably difficult as well. If you were a player of good offensive talent/wants to play in the NBA, the MAC probably isn't the place for you. Between the bad refs and the defensive orientation, the games are a bloodbath. This is probably just one reason of many though.MAC Hoops in 2009-10...blech.Over the course of time, the conference ebbs and flows. But it is hard to believe that only 8-10 years ago, the conference was putting out NBA 1st rounders?Daniels...Trent...Sczerbiak...Boykins...even guys like Brandon Hunter, Keith McCloud and Anthony Stacey were markedly better than just about anyone in the MAC right now.I think the Zips have held up their end of the bargain, and are an improved program from the early 2000's. But who else in the MAC can say they are better than they were 8 years ago? It is unreal how everyone's worse off. -
Good point. I told a friend of mine who is a neighbor of JDs in Ohio to watch to see where Shanahan lands and you will see where JD will own his next house.I'd also look for Shanahan to land in Carolina next year. Fox is really on the hot seat.
If the Redskins end up hiring Mike Shanahan as HC, JD could be a WR coach in the NFL even sooner.
Look at the big picture. JD goes to ASU after ASU goes 4-8. Their coach has to be on the hot seat so there may not be many coaches with JD's experience looking at that job.Even if they get fired after next year, JD is in the same city as his star pupil Larry Fitzgerald. Those two have always had a close relationship. Next thing you know, JD is coaching WRs for the Cardinals.Living here in the Phoenix area and having an roommate that is a huge ASU fan, I brought this to his attention and he is so against even the idea of bringing JD for even an interview. He dosen't think that he is a bad guy. However he is even wondering how can he can get an interview when he could not get it done with the zips. -
Look at the big picture. JD goes to ASU after ASU goes 4-8. Their coach has to be on the hot seat so there may not be many coaches with JD's experience looking at that job.Even if they get fired after next year, JD is in the same city as his star pupil Larry Fitzgerald. Those two have always had a close relationship. Next thing you know, JD is coaching WRs for the Cardinals.Living here in the Phoenix area and having an roommate that is a huge ASU fan, I brought this to his attention and he is so against even the idea of bringing JD for even an interview. He dosen't think that he is a bad guy. However he is even wondering how can he can get an interview when he could not get it done with the zips. -
JD will go back to coaching a west coast style offense like he did at Pitt and do well with it. He was a good OC at Pitt when he ran that type of offense.JD Brookhart is reportedly interviewing with Dennis Erickson at Arizona state to take over Offensive coordinator position. I wish JD well and hope he gets it if he wants, still, Im a bit surprised at the speed of his opportunity and the level, considering this years offensive history. -
I understand what you are saying and if that is the case we are doomed. If ESPN is calling the shots for college football, third tier conferences like the MAC are finished. They are only interested in BCS teams.
ESPN Family Networks and FSN Ohio will set the "better" teams in primetime saturday spot and make the "terrible" teams take the "leftover" slots which include weeknights...they can't pass up a weeknight game getting aired when that will bring in extra CASH to the university.I don't think that lowering prices is going to turn out more people. What they can do to turn out more people is have games on Saturday when the family can go together instead of weeknights. -
Was Col. Klink coaching Denver today?
Charlie was injured, in the 4th quarter, I think. Jamarcus Russell came in for the winning TD drive. Who knows who will start next week.Raiders win !! Way to go Charlie ! -
I don't want to speak for Akron1, but I think he is picking the greatest sports entertainment in America, the NFL, against Akron vs St. Francis. I really don't blame him.
You picked the Browns over the Zips?Fifteenth year as a season ticket holder for Zips basketball and I have missed 3 home games during that time. I will miss three this season due to the Zips scheduling games against the Browns and the rest of the NFL. I know the Browns stink, and it is impossible to please all of the fans, but a 5 PM, 6 PM or a 7 PM start would work when going against the Browns. -
The entire athletic department would. Can they actually do that with a 4,000 seat stadium? I'd like to see the proof in the form of numbers.Now, wouldn't the basketball team benefit from the soccer team becoming a revenue generating program? I haven't heard any soccer haters answer that one yet. Look at the whole picture. -
When will they get on sale, or when will they start selling them? There is a difference.When with they get them on sale? It seems like the athletic department needs to get in high gear. I wonder if ticket prices will go up as we continue to build on last year's successes
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So when can they raise ticket prices?What if they are good next year and they only charge $10 per GA ticket? Can they raise prices mid season because they are good? Can they go back to season ticket holders and ask for more money to get in the door? Do we refund money at the end of the year if the team isn't any good?I understand what you are saying. The MAC stinks, but twenty dollars is cheap enough.If our AD lowers ticket prices next year and starts the give-a-way deals UofA has historically called "marketing", the guy should be shown the door this time next year. Lowering ticket prices is the lazy man's way of selling them. I don't think that lowering prices is going to turn out more people. What they can do to turn out more people is have games on Saturday when the family can go together instead of weeknights. What they can do is make a good game day experience. What they can do and need to do next year is win more games. What they can do is show some level of competency on the field. What they can do is have as many games at home as early in the season as possible. What they can do is play games at times when someone wants to spend a nice afternoon outside in the fall before the sun goes down along with the temperatures followed by rain. What they can do is have good food at the stadium. What they can do is get the students to turn out for games. What they can do is have clean parking lots and fun tailgating. The problem with lowering the price of any product is the difficulty in raising prices later. It's easy to lower prices, it's hard to raise them.Everyone wants a new stadium. Everyone wants a winner. Everyone wants new facilities. Everyone wants better academic programs. Everyone wants a new soccer stadium. Everyone wants a new basketball arena. Everyone wants to buy out the old coach and pay a new coach a bunch of money. Everyone wants non-revenue producing sports in order to comply with Title IX. Does anyone want to pay for it? The Big Phone Booth needs to be the motor that drives everything else. The potential earning for football is greater than any other sport. Lowering prices is suicide.Quite frankly, I think the football program has done more than it's fair share in driving revenue. It hasn't done much winning, but it drives revenue. What other sport do we have where we play as difficult of an OOC schedule as football (it's killing the program, but driving revenue)? What sport is going to draw the most fans this year? What other sport has the highest sponsorship?As bad as we were this year, they should be cheaper.I cant see anyone paying 15-20 dollars per GA ticket to watch that sorry excuse for college football. -
Good post!!!
This song would make more sense for GP1.
Sometimes, yes .. other times .. not so much.We need an applet where you can play music behind a post when someone is reading the post. This one needs the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" .. nice motivation speech. I'd have written the exact same thing 10 years ago. Might be interesting to revisit in 5, and then again in 10 years. Hope it's a prosperous 2010.Opportunity does flourish amid chaos.Isn't it awesome owning your own business?
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No, Charlie has started enough and people have seen his act and are not impressed. His experience is important, not his ability at this point. The circumstance in his starting this week lead to a bad outcome. Charlie has been the scout team QB all season so he has not taken snaps in the offense since pre-season. He only has a few days of preparation with the starting unit. Things like timing are difficult to develop with only a few days preparation. The Raiders coaching staff is not good enough to put a game plan together that will give Charlie much of a chance either. I don't care who the QB would be, this is a terrible situation to throw a qb. Charlie would be better off if he was the #2 somewhere because the #2 takes snaps in preparation for the other upcoming team.I mentioned before that everything the Great GP1 knows about WWII and German culture comes from watching Hogan's Heroes. Remember they had the hollowed out tree stump next to the woods they crawled in and out of the tunnel from (why they wouldn't have dug the tunnel an extra 20 feet into the woods is the questions everyone should have asked, but anyhow...). The gang always had to wait for the German spotlight to pass by the tree stump before climbing out of the stump and running into the woods. The key was to stay in the stump so nobody saw you and then run out after the spotlight passed. Charlie is about to climb out of the stump with the German spotlight directly on it. Unless Sergent Schultz (isn't it funny he was the highest ranking NCO at the camp?) is operating the spotlight, Charlie is in trouble. I don't think the Broncos have any Sergent Schultz-type guys on their team.One thing I don't understand...it has been stated on this board that Frye will stay in league longer because of his starting experience but that the best thing for him now is to not see the field and that his starting this week is a bad thing. Don't those two things contradict each other? -
You must be reading it wrong. Can't is easily the dumbest town in America. Do we really need a study to tell us that?This article is a little confusing but i believe it's saying Can't State is the 2nd dumbest college town. -
I hear what you are saying. The first six months were the most difficult and would have caused any depression. I don't feel the same stress now as the first six months so I think the mania is over. Who knows....maybe I'll be in a rubber room in a few months.....how do you know I'm not typing this post from a rubber room right now. If being a Zips fan doesn't drive you crazy or at least to some level of depression, I don't know what will.
Is that The Great GP1 talking or some prozac-crazed maniac? Remember that depression always follows the mania...
Isn't it awesome owning your own business? I had always worked for large companies and did very well. The Koch Industries purchase of Georgia Pacific alone made the time at Georgia Pacific worth it because of not only my stock options, but more importantly the business philosophy at Koch. Charles Koch is brilliant and everyone should read his book The Science of Success. Later I went to work for a Berkshire Hathaway company and I knew it was time to leave when I would sit in my home office with the phone on mute and laugh out loud at the people in the corporate HQ durning conference calls. The people at the corporate HQ were hiding behind the company logo and disguising their incompetence behind a Six Sigma certification. They were absolute fools. They would spend six months putting cause & effect tables together about decisions a sane person could make in five minutes.If anyone out there wants to start their own business, grab your balls and do it!!! I've worked harder than I ever have before and I don't feel like it is work. I can't wait for tomorrow. I even know I'm going to wake up with a hangover, and I can't wait until tomorrow. It's nothing that a little Advil can't take care of and honestly, I'm done for 2009.In a year when most people are worrying about losing their job, I don't worry for a second about paying the bills or what would happen if I lost my job. Tough economic times are when you can break the bank if you are smart about it. Go out and break the bank! History is on your side. A lot of you have received a great education from a great school. Go out there and do something with it. Be different and do something different.Go The University of Akron!Damn! I got to start my own business, so I can spend all day sending zingers to the assorted hangers-on at ZipsNation.org. Then the rest of the day, I'll debate the letters to the editor at Ohio.com!
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I think he means UNCG, not UNCC.....UNCC? How did Cornbread look? -
You're right. It is childish......and funny.....and true.
As usual wrong..But just have at it with your bitterness.This thread is about coaches for Akron. If you want to use this thread to show your hatred or jealousy go for it. I won't participate in your childish game.
tOSU has a good defense when they are playing substandard offenses in the Big Ten...with the exception of Purdue....and the fifth place PAC 10 team USC. A lot of teams would be good against the Big Ten and the three MAC teams they play a year. Michael Jordan would have gotten a lot of dunks against teams of dwarfs. Earl Boykins would probably do the same. It has more to do with the dwarfs than the players.I would be hesitant to use national statistics to compare one team against another. Especially when that team is a second tier team in a second tier conference.I always thought tOSU fans were taking all of Tressel's unit they could handle....and glad to do so.I would take Fickell, Hazell, or Heacock as a defensive coach, becasue their defense is great. The team is a top 10 team going to another BCS game. However, I wouldn't take Bollman, as OL coach, because the o-line has sucked ever since he arrived. I want a coach that coached a good unit. I don't care about the rest of the team when looking at assistants. -
That is a great book. It is where I first came across the Albert Einstein quote, "Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts." I told that to a Six Sigma guy once and he almost fainted.I simply read The Science of Success. The rest was gravy.
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