Drink Selection at the Info

[ZippyRulz]

Those who shell out for expensive seats get a perk, I don't have a problem with that. And they're not brushing up against, yelling in the ears of, and spilling beer on, other people that don't want to be around the alcohol. If you can't enjoy the game without booze you might have a drinking problem.

[flipthezip]

try this one on for size....When I took the daughter to Disney World 5 years ago, I could buy beer there. At Disney World. A place for kids. A beer. In my hand. Bought there. Land of Mickey, Minnie, Donald and Goofy too.BUT.....I can't buy a beer at an Akron football game unless I'm in a suite.Thats a crock.Another good one....Ran in the Akron Marathon last year. Lots of families with kids there. Minors running in the race. What did they give participants after the race? FOUR FREE Michelob Ultras.....I'm not buying the family atmoshpere argument....If they are worried about rowdy drunk underage kids/students....well....first they should worry about actually getting kids/students to show up to the game......

You must be talking about buying beer in Epcot. There is alcohol all over that place. The Disney World Park is dry. Walt didn't want alcohol in his parks so any venue opened when he was alive are dry and anything after his death can serve alcohol.

[Dr Z]

If you can't enjoy the game without booze you might have a drinking problem.

Excuse me for enjoying a beer while I watch a sporting event. I'll check into AA immediately.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

Because of the decision of the board, I can guarantee you that I will either:1) Spend more time at OBC and other eateries before games, and will ensure that I'm nice and ripped before I ever get through the Info turnstiles, since hey, that buzz has to last for the entire game.or2) Break Info rules and will sneak a flask or bottle into the place. I suppose that the local bars and restaurants will be pleased that their pre and post game business will be increased. Both of these options are negatives for the university though. If middle-aged fans like me plan to sneak booze into the joint, you think the younger kids won't? Same for the pre-game buzz. Is it better for Info security to have to deal with a handful of people who buy and drink too much watered-down beer at the stadium, or to deal with many people drinking the hard stuff from flasks, or being drunk before they ever walk into the joint? Hey Info security, you can suck it bitches. I'm arriving liquored up and plan to bring my flask with me. Good luck stopping me!STZ

[Dave in Green]

There are three general groups: non-drinkers, responsible drinkers and irresponsible drinkers. The first two can usually get along just fine with each other. The third group is the one that usually initiates most of the problems.Personally, I fall into the second group (responsible drinkers). Over the years I've found through many experiences that light drinking can enhance a social experience, but being surrounded by a bunch of sloppy drunks greatly diminishes my enjoyment of any activity. So I now always make it a point to avoid any activities where sloppy drunks are likely to be found.My first preference would be to have beer readily available for those who can handle it (in reality, not in their altered minds). But that creates the age-old problem of trying to differentiate the responsible from the irresponsible. Full-scale riots have been triggered when authorities try to apprehend the most egregious drunken troublemaker from the midst of a generally inebriated group.If someone can figure out a reasonable way to manage the small number of irresponsible drinkers without creating an unfriendly environment for the vast majority of non-drinkers and responsible drinkers, then beer could be dispensed everywhere with minimal problems.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

Yeah, but in general you're terms and concepts are really completely subjective. What you consider light drinking that enhances a social experience would be perceived as sloppy alcoholism by some. I know teetotalers who are so offput by the idea of booze that they consider anyone around them who has had even one drink to be disgusting. As far as alcohol being available and dispensed, it is available and dispensed pretty much everywhere, in almost all settings in this country. Restaurants, bars, groceries, stadiums, universities. It's everywhere, even with this country's odd prohibition mentality. To have it so totally available, except for two hours at the Info on game days, where UA could make money, attract fans and create a better game day experience, is nonsensical. To those who would judge people in society who enjoy drinking, in whatever setting, I say mind your own business and worry about your own affairs. If you can't enjoy being in settings where people are buzzed/drunk, than you must hate basketball games, football games, concerts, restaurants, bars, parties, festivals, wineries, etc.STZ

There are three general groups: non-drinkers, responsible drinkers and irresponsbile drinkers. The first two can usually get along just fine with each other. The third group is the one that usually initiates most of the problems.Personally, I fall into the second group (responsible drinkers). Over the years I've found through many experiences that light drinking can enhance a social experience, but being surrounded by a bunch of sloppy drunks greatly diminishes my enjoyment of any activity. So I now always make it a point to avoid any activities where sloppy drunks are likely to be found.My first preference would be to have beer readily available for those who can handle it (in reality, not in their altered minds). But that creates the age-old problem of trying to differentiate the responsible from the irresponsible. Full-scale riots have been triggered when authorities try to apprehend the most egregious drunken troublemaker from the midst of a generally inebriated group.If someone can figure out a reasonable way to manage the small number of irresponsible drinkers without creating an unfriendly environment for the vast majority of non-drinkers and responsible drinkers, then beer could be dispensed everywhere with minimal problems.

[Guzijeff]

If someone can figure out a reasonable way to manage the small number of irresponsible drinkers without creating an unfriendly environment for the vast majority of non-drinkers and responsible drinkers, then beer could be dispensed everywhere with minimal problems.

here's an idea....instead of creating the "family seaing zone"...make a seating section called "I really wanna get hammered zone" They can have progressive beer sales, thus tapering the level of drunkeness from one end of the stadium to the other. Fall down drunks on one end, tea drinkers on the other. Why stop there, we could segregate parking also.....I would like to have the option of buying a beer at the stadium. That does not mean I am going to get stupid drunk though. the level of PC in this country is sick.as far as ZippyRulz goes....Honestly, how packed have Zips games been where you would have to worry about getting a drink spilled on you, or rubbed up on by a drunk, or have someone shout in your ear etc. I've only been to ONE zips game that ever reached sell-out - a Acme-Zip game (maybe sophmore year in 1989?) where they played Can't. Everyother game, that place has been pretty much empty. Historically, they have just not drawn that type of crowd. Allowing beer sales at the stadium will not all of a sudden bring all the rowdy drunks out of the woodwork and turn it into the kind of thing you would see at a British Soccer match. Hey, alcohol was sold at the Motor City Bowl.....didn't have any problems there now, did they??I guess I need to check into AA like the other guy though......

[ZippyRulz]

Here's an idea: have your 10 beers before the game, enjoy a nice cold, fizzy, tasty soda during the game, and then have another 10 beers after the game. It's hard to tell exactly at what point redneck turns into alcoholic but if you still feel you need those few extra beers during the game then yes, you should probably report to AA.

[WinZip]

[WinZip]

It should really be a blanket issue, all or nothing...We all should have to drink 3 beers to be admitted to the game. Only then are we all equals!!...but really I can see why they don't want to have alcohol sold at a college stadium.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

Spoken like a true douche bag. STZquote name='ZippyRulz' date='Jun 20 2009, 12:58 PM' post='85224']Here's an idea: have your 10 beers before the game, enjoy a nice cold, fizzy, tasty soda during the game, and then have another 10 beers after the game. It's hard to tell exactly at what point redneck turns into alcoholic but if you still feel you need those few extra beers during the game then yes, you should probably report to AA.

[Guzijeff]

Hey ZippyRulz....do you have a problem reading?....here...I'll post it again...."I would like to have the option of buying a beer at the stadium. That does not mean I am going to get stupid drunk though."I'm not a redkneck, or an alcoholic. I am in the position where I could afford seats in the premium sections where they will serve alcohol...but....I don't feel the need to expend that amount of money on season tickets to a football game, especially since my other activities do not allow me to make every game. It's entertainment, and for $1,000-$5,000 a seat, that's a bit much IMHO for the right to sit inside and drink a beer. Especially for the quality of product on the field. There is such a thing as having one or two...you know moderation....not everyone drinks 10. What, alcohol has never passed you virginal lips?

[ksu sucks]

There is such a thing as having one or two....not everyone drinks 10. What, alcohol has never passed you virginal lips?

Guzijeff, you spelled vaginal wrong.

[ZippyRulz]

Spoken like a true douche bag. STZ

Here's an idea: have your 10 beers before the game, enjoy a nice cold, fizzy, tasty soda during the game, and then have another 10 beers after the game. It's hard to tell exactly at what point redneck turns into alcoholic but if you still feel you need those few extra beers during the game then yes, you should probably report to AA.

http://zipsnation.org/forums//index.php?s=...ost&p=72522 "I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you to KEEP IT CLEAN. We're building a new Nation here .. that includes many of us who bring up our kids in the way of the Zips. These kids, some older than others, do read the nation. Please find a more creative way to express your frustrations. I will not spend time editing posts .. if they're over the line, I'll delete them."

[ZippyRulz]

There is such a thing as having one or two....not everyone drinks 10. What, alcohol has never passed you virginal lips?

Guzijeff, you spelled vaginal wrong.

http://zipsnation.org/forums//index.php?s=...ost&p=72522 "I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you to KEEP IT CLEAN. We're building a new Nation here .. that includes many of us who bring up our kids in the way of the Zips. These kids, some older than others, do read the nation. Please find a more creative way to express your frustrations. I will not spend time editing posts .. if they're over the line, I'll delete them."

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

OMG, are you REALLY trying to invoke board cleanliness rules because I used the term "douche bag"? The same item that your 5 year old kid can buy off the shelf at the grocery store? After you called everyone who had been in favor of drinking alcohol at the Info alcoholics who should report to AA? Let me say it again:You are a gigantic douche bag. I hope you have the luck of sloppy drunks all around you at the Info. Feel free to post the board rules in response, like anyone cares.STZ

[ZippyRulz]

I showed you where the moderators have made it clear that vulgarity is not acceptable, so obviously they do care. Most of us would like for Zips in the making to be able to visit without being exposed to crudeness, name-calling, and the message that alcohol is vital for the enjoyment of every event. The Trustees decided what they thought was best (for the current season only)...if you disagree, that's fine but show a little maturity.

[Guzijeff]

Those who shell out for expensive seats get a perk, I don't have a problem with that. And they're not brushing up against, yelling in the ears of, and spilling beer on, other people that don't want to be around the alcohol. If you can't enjoy the game without booze you might have a drinking problem.

OK...now that we have established you are a sensitive person....how about this.....not that I have anything against these people....but you might.....how about the fat smelly sweaty guy that is overflowing his seat into yours with his girth. the one that makes you get up everytime he needs to get up for another hot dog or nachos. the one that rubs his sweaty body against you on the way back to his seat or smears ketchup on you or drips nacho cheese on you. The one that yells at the team while spraying spit and food from his mouth. Are you offended by that guy? Maybe you would say if he can't enjoy the game without some snacks he might have an eating problem? What about that guy? Does he bother you too? Should "those who shell out for expensive seats get a perk" and be the only ones that get hotdogs and nachos? How about the guy that brought all the bratty kids that keep running around, hitting you with souveniers, getting sticky cotton candy on you, yelling, screaming and talking non stop. The ones waving signs in front of your face causing you to miss that crucial play. What do you do with that guy? Tell him that he might have a parenting problem?I've been to sporting events and sat next to "that guy", have experienced "that guy" at restaurants, have sat next to "that guy" on airplanes, etc etc. I could really care less about "that guy" getting smashed at a game, or "that guy" feeding himself, or "that guy" with all the kids. I'm there to have a good time, and I'm not going to let "that guy" bother me. I never said alcohol is vital for the enjoyment of the event. It would be nice to have that OPTION to buy one if I wish to however. Instead of people in this country teaching responsibility, moderation and tolerence, people are too hung up on restriction, abstinence, PC, and in this case of alcohol only in the premium seats, privilege.Going out to enjoy yourself at any public place is like going to the dolphin show at Sea World....you can't sit in the front row and expect NOT to get wet....If you are going to get hung up on "that guy" and let him ruin your time out, maybe you would be better off just staying home.....

[tbozeglav]

wow.... this thread went to hell fast...

[bUAkronG]

I really enjoyed reading up on this thread. Some really good insight from a lot of intelligent members on both sides of the fence.I will be 22 when the Info opens up. I am a bit disappointed with the decision to not sell beer in the stadium but I won't let it affect my gameday fun.I think we're missing a big point in this. What about the amount of revenue that will be "lost" by not selling beer in the stadium?

[Dave in Green]

Behavior is the key word here. Some people are prone to bad behavior without drinking alcohol. But an indisputable fact about alcohol is that it tends to reduce human inhibitions. So some people who might otherwise be well-behaved will have their inhibitions against bad behavior reduced after consuming alcoholic beverages. When you put too many people with reduced inhibitions against bad behavior into a confined area, bad things are more likely to happen.Part of the price we pay for living in civilized society is that we must agree to abide by rules designed to minimize bad behavior, even though we may believe that those rules are not necessary for us personally. In the case of this forum, moderators deal with bad behavior by summarily deleting offensive posts. In the case of inhibition-reducing substances such as alcohol, society comes up with a variety of rules to try to reduce the negative effects on the general public.The rules may not always seem fair, and we should never give up on trying to make the world a better place. But the right of everyone to consume as much alcohol as they wish at a football game is not anywhere near the top of the list of the world's priorities.

[Dr Z]

Rasor had an interesting poll on his blog.Give the majority what they want!!!

[MaxZIP]

They should offer a zips souvenir cup to all season ticket holders that only cost $1-$2 for each refill. Now that would add some value to being a season ticket holder.