Z-P Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I'm glad Johnson got signed. It'll lite a fire under Superman's fanny and add a level of competence between the guys "learning" and the guys charged with moving the offense. nm now blow up................(can't wait for GP-1 neg rant and I told you so's ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Doug Johnson? I would say this is nothing for Charlie to worry about. He will, and it will push him, but that is why EVERY team in the NFL does this. If Doug Johnson was any kind of number 2 QB, he would not be signing a contract on June 20th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I'm glad Johnson got signed. It'll lite a fire under Superman's fanny and add a level of competence between the guys "learning" and the guys charged with moving the offense. nm now blow up................(can't wait for GP-1 neg rant and I told you so's ) I'm not exactly sure who Superman is, but I'll assume you are writing about Frye. Personally, I could care less what the Browns do, but signing Johnson is a good move for all of the reasons you said. I'll add one more. Every veteran QB needs someone to talk to at his level. Having a guy with experience backing up Dilfer gives the Browns someone who can give Dilfer advice at a level other than a coach. Being a rookie, Frye can't really offer any veteran advice to Dilfer and neither can Harris. At this point in Frye's career, I really don't see this move impacting his career. He wasn't going to start next year anyhow. Johnson also gives Frye and Harris someone who they can turn to for advice during the season when Dilfer may be too busy to tutor young players. If Johnson is still around after this year (I wonder if he will even make it past two-a-days), all of you homers really need to start worrying. The worst thing for Frye would be for Johnson to come in and play well after Dilfer gets killed behind that offensive line. If that happens, the idiot fans in Cleveland will demand a ten year contract for Johnson. Dilfer vs Johnson could be the new Tim C. vs KH debate. See............... In my magnanimous way, I have managed to write a post about Frye without mentioning his sub 45% winning record. It's a good thing I'm in a good mood today or I could have gone on about his never winning a big game, not being able to get a first down in the final six minutes against Can't in 2003 or even the disastrous losses to teams like Eastern Michigan, OU and CFU. But I won't because I'm in a good mood. Have a nice day everyone, I have a lot of driving ahead of me today. Here is something we can all agree about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 At this point in Frye's career, I really don't see this move impacting his career. He wasn't going to start next year anyhow. Yeah, no way a rookie QB from the MAC could fill in for an injured veteran starter and lead his team to the AFC championship game his first year, that would be CRAZY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 I'm glad to see GP1 is back posting positive comments about Frye and the Zips. Gee, now he mentions not winning a big game, yet again, and blames him--not the team--for losing to Can't State, EMU, OU and CFU. Over the years, I've had the unfortunate experience of getting to hear this crap over and over. In no particular order.......he was made fun of when he made a harmless announcement he was coning back for a 5th year, was emphatically told that since Frye was an Owens guy, he would become a cancer in locker room and sabatoge Brookhart and the team and should be kicked-off the team, was told he would be selling copiers this coming year, has belittled every accomplishment and record Frye set in his four years, gets blamed for the teams' sub .500 record, discounted the greatest win in Zip history with a superman-like performance over Marshall, yet says Marshall wasn't that good so it doesn't count--his Redhawks couldn't beat 'em--and probably a dozen more comments I've conveniently forgotten. Yet he fashions himself as a Zip fan...I would hate to see what he has to say about those not good enough to be the highest drafted Zip in school history. And BTW, if Zip fans can't be grossly partial and "homers" on their own message board, then where can they be? I can hardly wait for next year... if the team goes 7-4, it will be because Frye is gone and if they go 4-7, well, Charlie will be blamed for that, too. Again, we all realize that you have nothing positive (unless it's condesending)to say about his college career and we all know that you do not project him to be a good NFL player....no offense on the latter........many of scouts have said the same. But it becomes clearer and clearer with every post that not only are you not projecting him as a good NFL player, you are openly hoping that he fails miserably. We finally have someone who will represent himself and his school very well-and it's on the local level--and you hope he becomes a copier saleman. Thanks for nothing......... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno aka Menace Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 To me neither Trent nor Doug are premier NFL QB's.....Everyone take a mental note...FRYE will start before the year is over..watch!!! Everyone is giving Trent more credit then he deserves. His super bowl win came from a team with a great defense (Sapp, Rice, Smith, Barker). If he was sooo good he wouldn't have gotten traded the next season. And Doug Johnson has played 2 games his self, so he doesn't have that much experience. I guess you can get some advice from a 6 year pine rider, but not much. Charlie is hungry, this is his home town/state, and MAC QB's do well in the league. No one expected much in the Senior Bowl and look MVP. No expects much from him no cause he is a rookie, the only pressure is the pressure he puts on hisself. Now he is going to the next level where he will have tougher competition but he will also have top notch weapons at his disposal. (And yeah I said top notch cause the Browns receivers and running backs are good...............it's the O-line that is the problem Charles is used to having an OK O-line he is going to be a star.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 I'm glad to see GP1 is back posting positive comments about Frye and the Zips. Gee, now he mentions not winning a big game, yet again, and blames him--not the team--for losing to Can't State, EMU, OU and CFU. Over the years, I've had the unfortunate experience of getting to hear this crap over and over. In no particular order.......he was made fun of when he made a harmless announcement he was coning back for a 5th year, was emphatically told that since Frye was an Owens guy, he would become a cancer in locker room and sabatoge Brookhart and the team and should be kicked-off the team, was told he would be selling copiers this coming year, has belittled every accomplishment and record Frye set in his four years, gets blamed for the teams' sub .500 record, discounted the greatest win in Zip history with a superman-like performance over Marshall, yet says Marshall wasn't that good so it doesn't count--his Redhawks couldn't beat 'em--and probably a dozen more comments I've conveniently forgotten. Yet he fashions himself as a Zip fan...I would hate to see what he has to say about those not good enough to be the highest drafted Zip in school history. And BTW, if Zip fans can't be grossly partial and "homers" on their own message board, then where can they be? I can hardly wait for next year... if the team goes 7-4, it will be because Frye is gone and if they go 4-7, well, Charlie will be blamed for that, too. Again, we all realize that you have nothing positive (unless it's condesending)to say about his college career and we all know that you do not project him to be a good NFL player....no offense on the latter........many of scouts have said the same. But it becomes clearer and clearer with every post that not only are you not projecting him as a good NFL player, you are openly hoping that he fails miserably. We finally have someone who will represent himself and his school very well-and it's on the local level--and you hope he becomes a copier saleman. Thanks for nothing......... . Don't take it so hard Zips Win! It's all in good fun. Good blast at me though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Yeah, no way a rookie QB from the MAC could fill in for an injured veteran starter and lead his team to the AFC championship game his first year, that would be CRAZY. What I should have said was he will not start out of training camp next year. There is a good chance for him to play as a back up, but I don't see Frye being awarded the starting position out of training camp. Not because he isn't as good as Dilfer, but because it appears as if the Browns plan is to bring him along slowly and not start him next year. I don't think Limpwich, Chad P. or Ben R. were awarded the starting positions out of traing camp. I don't see it happening in this case either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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