GP1 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 It is all about winning, because winning generates more money than losing. If you want a steady flow of money to improve the program, you first have to win. A losing team gets lucky here and there with a few major donations from rich alumni who still care about their school, but a winning team gets donations from most of the rich alumni because we give them a (high-profile, which means they get to stroke their egos when their donation goes public) reason to care about their school.Winning cures all.Right now, all I want is to average 7 wins per regular season. That gets you into a bowl game every year and in the MAC East it gets you into the conference championship game every other year (which is essentially another bowl game). Some years you'll go above 7 wins, and some years below, but it gets established that you win more than you lose overall, and that's something that no other football team in the area could claim.Stop making sense.It's not like we are even asking for that much winning. The most frustrating thing about the Zips right now is they will not even go 6-2 in a horrible conference (for a lot of reasons). 6-2 gets them to seven wins. They probably won't even go 5-3 in the MAC. 5-3 would give them six wins and at least a shot at a bowl.When the new coach gets here, I don't think it is unreasonable to demand seven wins out of the guy next season. There will be enough talent and the next coach needs to win with the existing talent. Quote
MDZip Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 I would like to know what our money situation is in comparison to other MAC schools. Does anyone know?Everyone fully understands we are not going to generate as much revenue as BCS schools. If we are generating relatively the same revenue as other MAC schools, then there is a problem beyond money.From the NCAA financial reports database - http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_re...venue_stat/showI couldn't find all of the MAC schools but here are the ones that were available. For those that report breaking even or a minor loss, it's made up out of University fees. All the schools appear to be spending roughly the same amount of money.School Amount Profit/(Loss)Ball State $4,019,809 ($3,105,456)BGSU $4,022,640 ($1,329,065)CMU $3,572,222 $0.00EMU $4,385,808 ($1,282,342)Can't State $3,463,473 ($2,670,408)Miami $4,545,311 $0.00Ohio $3,790,077 ($920,539)Toledo $3,931,278 ($2,162,287)Buffalo $3,525,507 ($2,481,307)Akron $3,862,021 ($31,138) For kicks I also looked up tOSU. Their budgets are higher some due to facilities cost, but they also spend a lot more and make a huge profit that funds their non-revenue sports. Their budget is $50M total (but they give half of it away). Pretty tough to compete directly with that. OSU $25,711,478 $26,099,129 While I was looking this up I also ran across the following article about MAC schools beating Big Ten schools. Its a little optimistic, but it had some interesting points including "Where the MAC schools can't compete is in terms of facilities and budgets. The Big Ten schools simply have more cash all the way around, even to fund academics. In terms of endowments, the MAC's wealthiest school (Buffalo) is more than a quarter billion dollars behind the Big Ten's least wealthy school (Iowa)."Is Era of Big Ten MACrifice at an End? Quote
Wally B Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 and back to the topic of the month..... JD!Been lurking around this topic for awhile and a few items come to mid. 1) Clearly our biggest hole right now is at qb. Could more have been done to prepare the b/u? 2) That aside where would we be w/out the cj11 incident? Was it that predominant factor in our losses to IU and CMU(class of mAc right now)? 3) Despite the obvious results, do you believe JD responded appropriately and made the best with what he was left with? That is, has he done a good job with a crappy situation or does he hold blame irregardless? Does he get credit for a good record vs Can't?4) Clearly JD took a gamble on CJ11 that didn't pan out. But recruiting has always been a careful balance between risk and talent. Look closely at USC over the last 5 years, anyone remember Nebraska and L.Billups. It happens in the pro's as well.... Ray Carruth comes to mind, and finally Marshall (nuff said but they were still our Rubber Bowl Bit^*#$). Of course we must include tOSU and Clarette! Tressel learned with that one but that program lost it's bite ever since. Yes the 2005 class severely disappointed us but did JD learn from those mistakes? And did he learn the lessons well enough that it may not be worth letting a new underpaid coach learn it all over again?5) Even legendary coach John Wooden got off to a slow start in UCLA, and i see several common repetitive patterns in the mAc; *Great coach who leaves quickly (BGSU), **Coach that learned and subsequently builds consistency over time (Niu and Toledo come to semi recent mind), and the more familiar ones ***short tenure at consistently losing program (EMU and Can't State are not the only examples here) and ****great coach followed by mediocre ones who destroy illusions of grandeur (muck fiami)....... Where do you place JD and what route would you have the AD attempt to follow?6) No easy answers here, but curious as to what theNATION would do! Quote
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