Valpo Zip Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 NC state is the doormat of the ACC and they are not a very good team just like AP wasn't a very good team either.We have to admit that we have some serious problems and the team has to start working on them ASAP. For example, the way we shoot free throws have nothing to do with who we're playing and how good they are. Other than Humpty, we made 4-14 at the line. :wall:Some one said the other day that Zeke doesn't make big-freshmen mistakes. Unfortunately, he did some of those yesterday. He traveled once and had a few passes go through his hands ala Braylon Edwards. I hope he's getting those out of his system. Humpty and Cventinovich are imo the real stars and the heard of this team. When we're winning by 20 or loosing by 20, they always deliver and overachieve. Even afyer a bad loss, i still was very impressed with their performance. I do not think that the sky is falling. I know that we may loose all the ooc games and even have a poor MAC regular season and still win the MAC championship and go dancing in March, but is that a good plan? are we not better than this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 The ACC is one of the top two conferences in the country. I don't know where NC State will finish, but they are a good team in a great conference. I didn't expect much more out of the Zips than what happened today.The Zips will be fine.....I seem to recall beating a Fla St team from the ACC that was much better than the NC State team we played yesterday. There is no sugar coating this, we played poorly and may come home an 0-4 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 In our last 47:36, we've been outscored 89-50. We need to make free throws. Free throws are nothing but practice and confidence. Our team doesn't have much confidence right now. We're also missing an offensive assassin. No one wants to step up. Someone needs to start putting the team on their back and be a little selfish. Is Derrick Tarver available for a brief clinic?McClanahan needs McNees' confidence. And McNees needs McClanahan's confidence.How is it possible to hold an ACC team to 66 points, yet let them shoot 61% from the field? The sky isn't falling...but I'd love to see some changes. Like Cventinovic and Brett McKnight getting 30 minutes each. If that big Zips cheerleader that looks like Brett McKnight wants 30 minutes...I'd give him 30 too. Whatever it takes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 In our last 47:36, we've been outscored 89-50.I didn't watch the feed, but from listening between technical difficulties and scanning the stats / box / play by play .. I think they had a much better second half than first. Defensively, they caused a bunch of turnovers, and on a few possessions offensively, there appeared to be some cohesion develop late .. grasping at straws.We need to make free throws. Free throws are nothing but practice and confidence. Our team doesn't have much confidence right now.Maybe the most important point ... total agreement here.We're also missing an offensive assassin. No one wants to step up. Someone needs to start putting the team on their back and be a little selfish. Is Derrick Tarver available for a brief clinic?Funny you should mention DT. I've been thinking that Humpty plays a little like him at times. We need to stop that now. And keep Tarver as far away from this team as possible. The last time he was around was also the last bad team the Zips had. The Zips need to work together as a team, they're not doing that right now, on either end of the floor. Play hard, play smart, play together. There should be no black holes.How is it possible to hold an ACC team to 66 points, yet let them shoot 61% from the field?An incredible stat. There are a few of them in the box score:The Zips turned the Wolfpack over 25 times.NC St. took a total of 9 shots in the second half. That's the kind of half that the Zips needed to force them into to make a game of it .. but unfortunately:In the second half, the Zips shooting percentage DROPPED to 30% .. while shooting 27 times. They had 3 times as many looks at the rim as NC St .. and still lost the half by 3 points.Attendance: 416: Was this game in Ypsilanti?The sky isn't falling...but I'd love to see some changes. Like Cventinovic and Brett McKnight getting 30 minutes each. If that big Zips cheerleader that looks like Brett McKnight wants 30 minutes...I'd give him 30 too. Whatever it takes...I'd like to find the guys that want to play together on Defense and avoid the 1 on 1 with early shots in the shot clock on Offense. Let's start playing Akron Basketball .. they haven't done that much yet this year.So far this season, giving up 55.7% FG shooting to opponents.Go Zips! Get it together. Let's come home 2-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I feel that everyone is erroneously blaming the loss on the lack of defense. The 61% FG may be a bit misleading. Look at it from this angle: NC state was limited to 66 points, 17 of which were on the FT line. Only 4-5 of the 26 free throws were fouls in the paint and the remaining ones are silly reaching fouls on players dribbling at the perimeters or diving for a 50-50 ball etc... you're in fould trouble, you send them to the line and give them 1 or 2 freebies.NC state was limited to 66-17 = 49 points from the field, and some of these were second chance points due to the fact that they got 50% more rebounds than we did 39-26. That's right 50%We can theoretically argue that we can always play a better deffense, but how about someone going for the basket? How about setting a screen for someone to take an uncotested 3? and most importantly, making our free throws.Captain, i don't understand your reference to McNeese confidence. Do you think that he is taking too many shots? if that's the case, i totally disagree, i think he was one of the only 3 players who were not intimidated yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 good points .. holding an ACC team to 66 should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Captain, i don't understand your reference to McNeese confidence. Do you think that he is taking too many shots? if that's the case, i totally disagree, i think he was one of the only 3 players who were not intimidated yesterday.McNees has no lack of confidence. If he's 0-9, he's shooting. Most of the other guys refuse to shoot if they start off cold.I think McClanahan is a much better shooter than McNees. If he had McNees' mentality, he'd score a ton more points. And, while McNees can go off at any thime, he's streaky. Sometimes, if his shot isn'y there, I wish he'd back off a little.Puzzling start to the season. I certainly don't have all the answers. You and ZW make solid points. It isn't just one thing or one guy...we're collectively not playing well right now. KD's started off like this in the past...and eventually he figures it out. Hope the light bulb comes on today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Steve took 1 shot against NC St. Shot 3 of 7 against APSU. I think he's our best guard right now.Go Zips .. things sounding a bit better today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Steve took 1 shot against NC St. Shot 3 of 7 against APSU. I think he's our best guard right now.Go Zips .. things sounding a bit better today.You must have fired Humpty up with that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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