hormone768 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I don't know if this has been posted here yet. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerins...leb_porter.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zvillezip Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 The Zips need to make a commitment here to excellence. Caleb Porter deserves to be the highest paid coach in NCAA soccer. PERIOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno aka Menace Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 What you deserve and what you get are two different things. Even though I agree with you it probably won't happen. I hope I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I stood just behind the TV camera at Infocision as coach Porter was being interviewed for tonight's Sports Time Sunday program to be shown on channel 5 (WEWS) at 11:30 PM.Judging by the emotion in his voice and the look in coach Porter's eyes I will be sadly surprised if heopted to leave the university. There was an overwhelming sense of unfinished business.Coach told me that we may lose a couple of games next year during the season. But, the goal willremain the same ... to win the national championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game.Not the game itself, but the attitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Spin said: I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game. Do they have penalty kicks in the pros? If so, he better hire someone to teach that aspect of the game. Nothing seems more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dr Z said: Spin said: I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game. Do they have penalty kicks in the pros? If so, he better hire someone to teach that aspect of the game. Nothing seems more important.I do feel the worst today for our two kids who missed those penalty kicks on their own. On the other hand, we nearly pulled a miracle after being down 3-1 and nearly forcing a 6th round, which surely would have added to the drama, and would have stopped my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dr Z said: Spin said: I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game. Do they have penalty kicks in the pros? If so, he better hire someone to teach that aspect of the game. Nothing seems more important.PKs are only used in the MLS during the playoffs. Regular season ties count as one point in the standings (3 points for a win). This is typical world-wide for "group" play. If an MLS playoff series (one home, one away, the winner with the higher aggregate score) ends in a tie after the overtime period, then PKs decide the outcome. In general, whenever there is a single elimination tournament (the so-called "knock out stage" in the World Cup, Champions League etc), the specter of PKs deciding the champion lingers.As far as Caleb hiring someone for PKs, it should be noted that the Zips under his watch have been VERY successful (Bush etc.). And they just went 5 for 5 against UNC on Friday. Sure the 2 of 5 showing yesterday was well below acceptable, but don't forget UVa's staff had the advantage of watching and evaluating the Zips in this regard against UNC. It sucks that it happened at the most critical time, but these things happen in soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 johnnyzip84 said: Dr Z said: Spin said: I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game. Do they have penalty kicks in the pros? If so, he better hire someone to teach that aspect of the game. Nothing seems more important.PKs are only used in the MLS during the playoffs. Regular season ties count as one point in the standings (3 points for a win). This is typical world-wide for "group" play. If an MLS playoff series (one home, one away, the winner with the higher aggregate score) ends in a tie after the overtime period, then PKs decide the outcome. In general, whenever there is a single elimination tournament (the so-called "knock out stage" in the World Cup, Champions League etc), the specter of PKs deciding the champion lingers.As far as Caleb hiring someone for PKs, it should be noted that the Zips under his watch have been VERY successful (Bush etc.). And they just went 5 for 5 against UNC on Friday. Sure the 2 of 5 showing yesterday was well below acceptable, but don't forget UVa's staff had the advantage of watching and evaluating the Zips in this regard against UNC. It sucks that it happened at the most critical time, but these things happen in soccer.This was my first thought as well. But when two of the shots are not even on goal, it's hard to blame the failure on UVA possibly knowing our tendencies from Friday night. Holding them to 3of5 should have easily given us the win. Was it nerves? pressure? fatigue? We'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 skip-zip said: johnnyzip84 said: Dr Z said: Spin said: I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game. Do they have penalty kicks in the pros? If so, he better hire someone to teach that aspect of the game. Nothing seems more important.PKs are only used in the MLS during the playoffs. Regular season ties count as one point in the standings (3 points for a win). This is typical world-wide for "group" play. If an MLS playoff series (one home, one away, the winner with the higher aggregate score) ends in a tie after the overtime period, then PKs decide the outcome. In general, whenever there is a single elimination tournament (the so-called "knock out stage" in the World Cup, Champions League etc), the specter of PKs deciding the champion lingers.As far as Caleb hiring someone for PKs, it should be noted that the Zips under his watch have been VERY successful (Bush etc.). And they just went 5 for 5 against UNC on Friday. Sure the 2 of 5 showing yesterday was well below acceptable, but don't forget UVa's staff had the advantage of watching and evaluating the Zips in this regard against UNC. It sucks that it happened at the most critical time, but these things happen in soccer.This was my first thought as well. But when two of the shots are not even on goal, it's hard to blame the failure on UVA possibly knowing our tendencies from Friday night. Holding them to 3of5 should have easily given us the win. Was it nerves? pressure? fatigue? We'll never know.Weather Conditions?Look, don't sit there and be a tool and blame these kids or Caleb for playing their asses off and then missing a goal by an inch (Sarkodie) or over thinking the shot (Gavin) it happens; it sucks. I would wager to guess that we will be the favorites to be there again next year and Caleb seems to me to be the type of person who doesn't let things slide. I mean I'm sure since he had that taste in his mouth and knew it was there he is going to want to finish what he started, the beauty is he is 34 with a long life and career ahead of him and even if he is out for the money, a couple National Titles will get him a better gig then that crappy DC United one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 g-mann17 said: skip-zip said: johnnyzip84 said: Dr Z said: Spin said: I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game. Do they have penalty kicks in the pros? If so, he better hire someone to teach that aspect of the game. Nothing seems more important.PKs are only used in the MLS during the playoffs. Regular season ties count as one point in the standings (3 points for a win). This is typical world-wide for "group" play. If an MLS playoff series (one home, one away, the winner with the higher aggregate score) ends in a tie after the overtime period, then PKs decide the outcome. In general, whenever there is a single elimination tournament (the so-called "knock out stage" in the World Cup, Champions League etc), the specter of PKs deciding the champion lingers.As far as Caleb hiring someone for PKs, it should be noted that the Zips under his watch have been VERY successful (Bush etc.). And they just went 5 for 5 against UNC on Friday. Sure the 2 of 5 showing yesterday was well below acceptable, but don't forget UVa's staff had the advantage of watching and evaluating the Zips in this regard against UNC. It sucks that it happened at the most critical time, but these things happen in soccer.This was my first thought as well. But when two of the shots are not even on goal, it's hard to blame the failure on UVA possibly knowing our tendencies from Friday night. Holding them to 3of5 should have easily given us the win. Was it nerves? pressure? fatigue? We'll never know.Weather Conditions?Look, don't sit there and be a tool and blame these kids or Caleb for playing their asses off and then missing a goal by an inch (Sarkodie) or over thinking the shot (Gavin) it happens; it sucks. I would wager to guess that we will be the favorites to be there again next year and Caleb seems to me to be the type of person who doesn't let things slide. I mean I'm sure since he had that taste in his mouth and knew it was there he is going to want to finish what he started, the beauty is he is 34 with a long life and career ahead of him and even if he is out for the money, a couple National Titles will get him a better gig then that crappy DC United one.You mean the same weather conditions that both teams had to deal with? If anything, we are probably more likely to play in those kinds of conditions more during the course of the year than a team from Virginia.If you read my post more carefully, it's merely a response to someone's post about whether our penalty kicks against UNC gave UVA any advantage. And since UVA only had to make one save on our 5 shots, I would disagree with that thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUAkronG Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 skip-zip said: johnnyzip84 said: Dr Z said: Spin said: I hope he understands, the pro's are a whole new game. Do they have penalty kicks in the pros? If so, he better hire someone to teach that aspect of the game. Nothing seems more important.PKs are only used in the MLS during the playoffs. Regular season ties count as one point in the standings (3 points for a win). This is typical world-wide for "group" play. If an MLS playoff series (one home, one away, the winner with the higher aggregate score) ends in a tie after the overtime period, then PKs decide the outcome. In general, whenever there is a single elimination tournament (the so-called "knock out stage" in the World Cup, Champions League etc), the specter of PKs deciding the champion lingers.As far as Caleb hiring someone for PKs, it should be noted that the Zips under his watch have been VERY successful (Bush etc.). And they just went 5 for 5 against UNC on Friday. Sure the 2 of 5 showing yesterday was well below acceptable, but don't forget UVa's staff had the advantage of watching and evaluating the Zips in this regard against UNC. It sucks that it happened at the most critical time, but these things happen in soccer.This was my first thought as well. But when two of the shots are not even on goal, it's hard to blame the failure on UVA possibly knowing our tendencies from Friday night. Holding them to 3of5 should have easily given us the win. Was it nerves? pressure? fatigue? We'll never know.One or a combination of all three, definitely. PKs are like shooting free throws. You need to perfect your technique. They aren't used nearly as often as free throws, though, so when the time comes and the pressure is immense it is very easy to mess your technique up. That was the case with Gavin. His approach yesterday was different than it normally would and he leaned back too much and it sailed on him. Kofi's shot was inches away from a near perfect shot. The best place for a PK is in the side netting. Nearly impossible for the keeper to reach. If you look at Ben Zemanski's PKs they were nearly textbook. Only thing that could have made them better is if they were higher but trying to place them higher runs you the risk of missing the goal completely.Back on-topic. I really think CP will be back next year. Now if he comes back next year and wins it then I can see him exploring his options. Once you've won the cup there's not much more you can do except set records, some of which are unobtainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Utah Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Another update...sure doesn't sound like good news.D.C. United Coaching UpdateCaleb Porter told his University of Akron players today that he will speak with D.C. United about its head coaching vacancy, the Insider has learned.Porter, 34, has emerged as United's top choice for the job, which opened when Tom Soehn stepped aside last month after three seasons.(Anyone fluent in reading between the lines?)On Sunday, after the Zips lost to Virginia on penalty kicks in the NCAA championship match in Cary, N.C., Porter told the Insider that United had requested permission from Akron's athletic department for a formal interview. Today, United declined to respond to Porter's statement, saying only that "we are continuing the process" of finding a new coach.Meantime, United General Manager Dave Kasper is "out of town," according to a club spokesman. Ohio or Argentina, your guess is as good as mine. DCU President Kevin Payne is in the United Arab Emirates this week for FIFA meetings in conjunction with the Club World Cup. (He is on FIFA's Committee for Club Football.)So logistically, even if a deal were reached this week, an announcement would probably have to wait until Monday, at the earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Johnny Utah said: Another update...sure doesn't sound like good news.D.C. United Coaching UpdateCaleb Porter told his University of Akron players today that he will speak with D.C. United about its head coaching vacancy, the Insider has learned.Porter, 34, has emerged as United's top choice for the job, which opened when Tom Soehn stepped aside last month after three seasons.(Anyone fluent in reading between the lines?)I also heard this today... I'm starting to get nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Probably owes it to himself and his family to at least listen to what DC is looking for and offering. Needs to be a good fit for both.Also serves to turn the heat up a few more notches on the fire that's been lit under Proenza, Wistrcil and Company to bring facilities up to what Caleb was promised they would be four years ago.Would prefer Caleb tell DC 'thanks but not interested' as he did with Indiana but I'll remain hopeful that Akron is where he and his family need to be right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 another thread that makes me want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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