Thinking About The MAC

[Zipmeister]

I find the farther South I go, the smarter I get.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

I find the farther South I go, the smarter I get.

That's simply because you are comparing yourself to the redneck inbred hillbillies who inhabit the southeastern US. I'll take the North, the Midwest and the West of this country any and all day over ANY place south of Washington DC and east of the Colorado border.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

As was said earlier, Alabama plays Big 10 style football, and so does a lot of the SEC, so the opinions people have on running the ball and playing defense like the Big 10 does doesn't make any sense to me, and kids can go play for a spread offense and see what it does for their NFL futures, just check the recent list of Texas Tech record setting QBs for examples.

I can't think of one elite NFL QB under 32 that didn't play in either a spread offense or at least one geared toward passing. Brees was from Purdue, but he grew up in Texas and Purdue runs a spread style offense. Roethlisberger ran a spread type offense at Miami. Tennessee was almost completely dependent upon Manning's arm. Brady went to Michigan but was a California kid who understood how to pass and wasn't very good in their offense at UM. Palmer won the Heisman because of his arm, not USC's defense and running game. Rivers is from NC and went to NC State where they threw constantly.Alabama is absolutely loaded with talent and it makes more traditional offenses easier to run. The spread is a good offense with only a couple of good players and lesser talent. WVU under Rodrigues had Slaton, White and Henry and that was about it. That's why they HAD to run the spread.The NFL game today is much different that even 10 years ago. Trent Dilfer is the best commentator on today's NFL and he always says the league is about QBs, WRs and coaches. Is it coincidence that the elite QBs are also the ones in the playoffs this season? Favre is not under 32, but he is an elite NFL qb. The rules in the NFL are geared toward passing....you can't touch a receiver after five yards (this penalty results in automatic first down)....if you breath on one while the ball is in the air or you get a penalty...any shot to the QBs head is a 15 year penalty...if you tackle the QB too low you get a penalty...the list could go on. Smash mouth football teams don't win the big games in the NFL anymore. The Steelers lost AFC Championship one after another until Cowher realized he needed to turn the ball over to his QB. Minnesota will not even go to the Super Bowl because they are a smash mouth team. Cincy will not win one playoff game because their coach will go Cowher and run the ball too much in the playoffs. San Diego is better because their QB is more productive and Tomlinson is less productive.Since this is a Zips board, I'll bring it all around. If the Zips ignore the fact that they have a QB with an NFL arm and start running the ball too much, they will continue to lose. The Zips badly need to find two good wide receivers for next year for Nicely to throw to. With improvements in his accuracy, I believe Nicely can be the winner we have been looking for. All they need to do on defense is show some level of ability and they should be able to win.I hope going into next year, all of you on this board make a resolution to stop thinking about college football as if it is the 1950s. It will greatly help the Great GP1 utilize his time in educating you guys and bringing our fan base into the 21st Century. I'm going to go get drunk now and I don't plan on posting tomorrow. On Saturday, I'm going to Hilton Head for a couple of nights ($40 per night at hotels) to walk the beach and go to the Jazz Corner on Sunday night to see one of my favorite bands. I don't want any more 1950s posts between now and when I get back Monday afternoon.Happy New Year from the Great GP1 and Mrs. GP1, the luckiest woman in the world!

Uh yeah. You completely lost me at Trent Dilfer being the best commentator on the NFL today. That.Is.Wrong.

[dgull021878]

As was said earlier, Alabama plays Big 10 style football, and so does a lot of the SEC, so the opinions people have on running the ball and playing defense like the Big 10 does doesn't make any sense to me, and kids can go play for a spread offense and see what it does for their NFL futures, just check the recent list of Texas Tech record setting QBs for examples.

I can't think of one elite NFL QB under 32 that didn't play in either a spread offense or at least one geared toward passing. Brees was from Purdue, but he grew up in Texas and Purdue runs a spread style offense. Roethlisberger ran a spread type offense at Miami. Tennessee was almost completely dependent upon Manning's arm. Brady went to Michigan but was a California kid who understood how to pass and wasn't very good in their offense at UM. Palmer won the Heisman because of his arm, not USC's defense and running game. Rivers is from NC and went to NC State where they threw constantly.Alabama is absolutely loaded with talent and it makes more traditional offenses easier to run. The spread is a good offense with only a couple of good players and lesser talent. WVU under Rodrigues had Slaton, White and Henry and that was about it. That's why they HAD to run the spread.The NFL game today is much different that even 10 years ago. Trent Dilfer is the best commentator on today's NFL and he always says the league is about QBs, WRs and coaches. Is it coincidence that the elite QBs are also the ones in the playoffs this season? Favre is not under 32, but he is an elite NFL qb. The rules in the NFL are geared toward passing....you can't touch a receiver after five yards (this penalty results in automatic first down)....if you breath on one while the ball is in the air or you get a penalty...any shot to the QBs head is a 15 year penalty...if you tackle the QB too low you get a penalty...the list could go on. Smash mouth football teams don't win the big games in the NFL anymore. The Steelers lost AFC Championship one after another until Cowher realized he needed to turn the ball over to his QB. Minnesota will not even go to the Super Bowl because they are a smash mouth team. Cincy will not win one playoff game because their coach will go Cowher and run the ball too much in the playoffs. San Diego is better because their QB is more productive and Tomlinson is less productive.Since this is a Zips board, I'll bring it all around. If the Zips ignore the fact that they have a QB with an NFL arm and start running the ball too much, they will continue to lose. The Zips badly need to find two good wide receivers for next year for Nicely to throw to. With improvements in his accuracy, I believe Nicely can be the winner we have been looking for. All they need to do on defense is show some level of ability and they should be able to win.I hope going into next year, all of you on this board make a resolution to stop thinking about college football as if it is the 1950s. It will greatly help the Great GP1 utilize his time in educating you guys and bringing our fan base into the 21st Century. I'm going to go get drunk now and I don't plan on posting tomorrow. On Saturday, I'm going to Hilton Head for a couple of nights ($40 per night at hotels) to walk the beach and go to the Jazz Corner on Sunday night to see one of my favorite bands. I don't want any more 1950s posts between now and when I get back Monday afternoon.Happy New Year from the Great GP1 and Mrs. GP1, the luckiest woman in the world!

Uh yeah. You completely lost me at Trent Dilfer being the best commentator on the NFL today. That.Is.Wrong.

^^ I've gotta co-sign that!!

[dgull021878]

I disagree with most of what has been said in this whole argument on the South, etc. College football is cyclical, and when Michigan returns to form so will the perception and the competitiveness of the entire Big 10. As was said earlier, Alabama plays Big 10 style football, and so does a lot of the SEC, so the opinions people have on running the ball and playing defense like the Big 10 does doesn't make any sense to me, and kids can go play for a spread offense and see what it does for their NFL futures, just check the recent list of Texas Tech record setting QBs for examples. I think a player with half a brain should be able to see past that. Pryor at OSU, despite his faults, realized the pro style system would give him a chance to be a NFL QB, and even though he has not progressed, how many games has Pat White started, or how well has Alex Smith played, or how great will Tebow be at the next level? The majority of elite teams will likely keep playing NFL style for that reason. So, in my opinion major conference programs dont need the spread or gimmick offenses unless its to cover a deficiency, but it is the equalizer for everyone else like a 3 pointer, the only chance to compete for a lot of schools that are not going to physically compete with the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, etc.

Jaycevs brings up very valid points, particularly about it being cyclical. I personally prefer a Pro-Style system over all others.