xu9697 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 There is a bit of talk in another topic, but it really needs it own discussion thread. After the spring game and, later in the summer we will certainly know more. But based on last year and based on the TYPE of football we probably will be playing:Broderick Alexander:IMHO, he showed signs he could be a big-time back..and the type of offense we look to be installing (Wisconsin/ND type), I would definitely see him as our "John Clay". Considering he should be around 6-1/6-2 and 225 to 230 by the beginning of the year. Might be more of a first and 2nd down back, leaving room for...Dale Martin/DeVoe TorrenceMartin= seems to be the perfect change of pace/3rd down back type. To be a good 3rd down back, you need to be smart..know when to block, when to release and be ABLE to block. His durability issues make me question the possiblity of him being an every down back.Torrence= might be the best of the 3 in terms of size and speed. Didn't seem great at finding the holes (if they even existed). He still is the biggest mystery to me. Could be one of those guys that never gets it, could be a star, could be moved to WR...Don't see anyone else on the roster that I am familiar enough with to say that they are really in the conversation to get in the 3-deep. Could still be a recruit on the radar, but right now it looks like it will come down to these 3 young men. Opinions, thoughts, retorts, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 There is a bit of talk in another topic, but it really needs it own discussion thread. After the spring game and, later in the summer we will certainly know more. But based on last year and based on the TYPE of football we probably will be playing:Broderick Alexander:IMHO, he showed signs he could be a big-time back..and the type of offense we look to be installing (Wisconsin/ND type), I would definitely see him as our "John Clay". Considering he should be around 6-1/6-2 and 225 to 230 by the beginning of the year. Might be more of a first and 2nd down back, leaving room for...Dale Martin/DeVoe TorrenceMartin= seems to be the perfect change of pace/3rd down back type. To be a good 3rd down back, you need to be smart..know when to block, when to release and be ABLE to block. His durability issues make me question the possiblity of him being an every down back.Torrence= might be the best of the 3 in terms of size and speed. Didn't seem great at finding the holes (if they even existed). He still is the biggest mystery to me. Could be one of those guys that never gets it, could be a star, could be moved to WR...Don't see anyone else on the roster that I am familiar enough with to say that they are really in the conversation to get in the 3-deep. Could still be a recruit on the radar, but right now it looks like it will come down to these 3 young men. Opinions, thoughts, retorts, etc?Devoe needs to be moved to linebacker. He is not a legit D1 running back in my opinion, but would be an all conference linebacker immediately. One of the best high school linebackers I have watched and that is what Ohio State was recruiting him to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 There is a bit of talk in another topic, but it really needs it own discussion thread. After the spring game and, later in the summer we will certainly know more. But based on last year and based on the TYPE of football we probably will be playing:Broderick Alexander:IMHO, he showed signs he could be a big-time back..and the type of offense we look to be installing (Wisconsin/ND type), I would definitely see him as our "John Clay". Considering he should be around 6-1/6-2 and 225 to 230 by the beginning of the year. Might be more of a first and 2nd down back, leaving room for...Dale Martin/DeVoe TorrenceMartin= seems to be the perfect change of pace/3rd down back type. To be a good 3rd down back, you need to be smart..know when to block, when to release and be ABLE to block. His durability issues make me question the possiblity of him being an every down back.Torrence= might be the best of the 3 in terms of size and speed. Didn't seem great at finding the holes (if they even existed). He still is the biggest mystery to me. Could be one of those guys that never gets it, could be a star, could be moved to WR...Don't see anyone else on the roster that I am familiar enough with to say that they are really in the conversation to get in the 3-deep. Could still be a recruit on the radar, but right now it looks like it will come down to these 3 young men. Opinions, thoughts, retorts, etc?Torrence was hobbled on almost every carry. He seemed to come off limping and head right to the endzone facility after a touch or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Good points about Torrence= perhaps LB, perhaps it was just the injuries. But just by saying those things..the mystery grows.Troy Gilmer is another interesting player. Seems that he would be a perfect fit for a FB, but perhaps the opportunity will open up for him to get a look at being a power back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Good points about Torrence= perhaps LB, perhaps it was just the injuries. But just by saying those things..the mystery grows.Troy Gilmer is another interesting player. Seems that he would be a perfect fit for a FB, but perhaps the opportunity will open up for him to get a look at being a power back.regardless of who is carrying the rock, coach I needs to eliminate the damned shotgun draw/too slow to develop inside running scheme. That never had a chance of working. Line up and smash it down their throats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUAkronG Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Good points about Torrence= perhaps LB, perhaps it was just the injuries. But just by saying those things..the mystery grows.Troy Gilmer is another interesting player. Seems that he would be a perfect fit for a FB, but perhaps the opportunity will open up for him to get a look at being a power back.regardless of who is carrying the rock, coach I needs to eliminate the damned shotgun draw/too slow to develop inside running scheme. That never had a chance of working. Line up and smash it down their throats.word from the coach's mouth is that they are scrapping the spread offense.Hopefully DeVoe gets a chance with the new staff. He and JD used to butt heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 word from the coach's mouth is that they are scrapping the spread offense. I don't doubt you on this, but do you have some kind of link where he is quoted as saying this?Broderick averaged 3.4 yards per carry on 59 carries.Martin averaged 6.7 yards per carry on 25 carries.Torrence averaged 4.9 yards per carry on 30 carries.I think we'll be fine at running back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUAkronG Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 word from the coach's mouth is that they are scrapping the spread offense. I don't doubt you on this, but do you have some kind of link where he is quoted as saying this?unfortunately I don't have a link as the source of the info is my human source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 word from the coach's mouth is that they are scrapping the spread offense. I don't doubt you on this, but do you have some kind of link where he is quoted as saying this?unfortunately I don't have a link as the source of the info is my human source.Looks like we're on the hunt for the missing link Aside from the infamous "I think I'll give ground while in my own end zone" play, Alexander played pretty well, especially for a true FR. I wouldn't have any problem at all with him as the "featured" back. If Browning can kick-start the O-Line, it's not hard to imagine the running game improving dramatically over last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 word from the coach's mouth is that they are scrapping the spread offense. I don't doubt you on this, but do you have some kind of link where he is quoted as saying this?unfortunately I don't have a link as the source of the info is my human source.Looks like we're on the hunt for the missing link Aside from the infamous "I think I'll give ground while in my own end zone" play, Alexander played pretty well, especially for a true FR. I wouldn't have any problem at all with him as the "featured" back. If Browning can kick-start the O-Line, it's not hard to imagine the running game improving dramatically over last year.I'm pretty sure that RI said as much in either his introductory press conference or an interview very soon after. He said he favored a traditional pro-style offense and not the spread.Go Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipthezip Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 We could still have Alex Allen back in the mix. I was under the impression that he was petitioning for a 6th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Good points about Torrence= perhaps LB, perhaps it was just the injuries. But just by saying those things..the mystery grows.Troy Gilmer is another interesting player. Seems that he would be a perfect fit for a FB, but perhaps the opportunity will open up for him to get a look at being a power back.regardless of who is carrying the rock, coach I needs to eliminate the damned shotgun draw/too slow to develop inside running scheme. That never had a chance of working. Line up and smash it down their throats.ianello i believe has already said he won't be running the spread..so he nneds to find 2 dependable rbs and an fb...not to mention a tight end...IF martin was healthy he would be the #1 but his knee will probably not allow thatits a crap shoot until the season starts and one of these guys steps up..or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Good points about Torrence= perhaps LB, perhaps it was just the injuries. But just by saying those things..the mystery grows.Troy Gilmer is another interesting player. Seems that he would be a perfect fit for a FB, but perhaps the opportunity will open up for him to get a look at being a power back.regardless of who is carrying the rock, coach I needs to eliminate the damned shotgun draw/too slow to develop inside running scheme. That never had a chance of working. Line up and smash it down their throats.ianello i believe has already said he won't be running the spread..so he nneds to find 2 dependable rbs and an fb...not to mention a tight end...IF martin was healthy he would be the #1 but his knee will probably not allow thatits a crap shoot until the season starts and one of these guys steps up..or not...Martin had better cure his fumble-itis if he wants to see the ball more. His average per carry was impressive, but he coughed it up at key times as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalapeño Zippy Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Larry Dawson is still on the roster. With his size and build he could be a factor next season as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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