Lee Adams

The definition of insanity...well we all know. Same ending different day.

Not about money. Its about being able to compete at this level. Clearly NO.

Did Akron really have a 1st and goal and end up punting???!!! These guys are a hot mess on both sides of the ball and on the sideline. Offensively 15-33 passing?? 180 yards?? 160 on the ground in 36 rushes??. Broughton may have made some difference...not that much. Moorehead's offense doesn't work with what he puts on the field. Roggow unfortunately isn't the answer. He can't make the throws and he doesn't run. And, he doesn't get much help from the O-line. But what has really changed over the past several years? The defense is just silly. They played a 1 dimensional team that only completed 8 passes. CMU said we are going to run all over you, and did for 332 yards. UNLV ran them into the ground also. There is a serious lack of talent all over the defense. But the coaching staff isn't apparently making any corrections week to week. The secondary still looks lost. The D-line just gets gashed. I still think its going to take more than a coaching change to get this program consistently competitive. The AD really needs to look if the program is actually capable of competing at the current.

If the exhibition against UNLV was an example, I have to question Akron's ability to control the run. Once UNLV finally decided to get its QB running, Akron had no answer. I think what the defense gave up on the ground was substantial. Unless te offense with or without Broughton can put up at least 24 points its going to be a struggle to win. Just hope Broughton is healthy enough to be effective. And, hope Gant can have a big game.

Wanted to see acouple of games before posting again. To start hoppe Broughgton isn't out long or the offense is going to be ugly,aside from Gant running. Don't see Roggow is any better than the mediocre QBs here the last several years. Can't run effectivley,holds the ball too long at times, not real good arm strength. Of course with an O-line that is erratic at best not gonna sustain much offensively. And, UNLV didn't have a great defense. Should have put up more. Defensively these guys aern't any better. WRs running wide open in the secondary. Who the heck was playing on the right side of Akron's defensive backfield? Once UNLV decided to let their QB run it was really game over. No containment,no pass rush. D-line was gouged. So far not much different than last few seasons. Again, if Broughton is out long it might get real ugly. I don't think there is going to be much relief in the MAC.

When pay to play was being bandied about years ago one of the things schools and the NCAA were wary of was unionization of the athletes....ALL athletes. I am ALL in favor of unions! But think about all of the issues that come with collective bargaining and unionization. If any of you were/are in a union you realize there are issues above and beyond pay. We will see.

Think of the coaching talent they have had at The Mount.

Those guys coming out of IUP always worth a look....Akron.

No, some people at the school have to change their commitments.

KSU fires their CH during the season and yet ends up with exactly the same record as Akron. I have been and will continue to maintain that Akron can not compete at the DI level unless some huge changes in commitment are coming from the Administration. Simply changing the HC might make some feel better. But that alone won't get long term improvement.

Puzzling to me. KSU was branded as the worst team in the MAC. Fire their HC during the season. Then got hot. Finished 5-7 overall, 4-4 in the MAC AND beat the Zips. Akron finishes 5-7, 4-4 after how many years. Someone please help me with this.

I'm not dismissing the 2004/2005 accomplishments. I was as damn excited as ANYBODY. I have been watching these guys since th late '60s. Owens finally had the program moving back in a positive direction. I'm not knocking JD. But after the '05 season and things started regressing he even said they got lucky before they got good. And he said he took some chances on recruits who were good athletes but bad citizens i.e. David Harvey. Back then they didn't have a defense. Cost them games. Shoot if I thought JD could do it again I would hire him.

I loved Biggsy! You really think that w/o Frye,Hixon, Blackburn some of the O-line Owens brought in Akron would have been as good in 2004? Naw. JD got his QB in Getsy and still had Hixon and some O-line. Biggsy was a great piece of that offense. Hixon caught the pass from Getsy in the MAC Champ game. And actually they had a losing season in 2006 if I remember correctly. 5-7. 3-5 in the MAC. Owens guys were gone.

So what's the answer Knute?

Why would Indiana get rid of the primero of Western Pennsylvania football. Akron had a chance to hire Tressel, one of the Cignettis etc. a long time ago. Day late and another $ short.

JDs first year. Charley's last season. Winning record but no Bowl invite. Lee Owens recruit's mainly. I believe they may have beaten Marshall? etc. etc.

Unfortunately too many delusional on here who ignore history and think the program can compete at this level. STOP!

Old news!

We have always had too many people posting here who don't know a damn thing about Akron football from more than 10 yrs. ago because they are too lazy to look it up. There ain't no revelations here that haven't been out here for years. Maybe that's a reason the program is where it is. A bunch of latecomers to the ball!

Well no VT is no go. At best 1 win in the first 4 again.

Well.. a win is a win. Before the season I said 4-4 in the MAC was minimum. They got that. But I also said major program changes were/are needed. Yep. The more I read posts here about the lack of support from Administration for for football the more obvious it is. If the Admin. refuses to support the program at a DI level then they have to get out of DI! The record spesks for itself. Changing coaches is like moving the bulbs on the Xmas tree. Same tree. Either put up for DI or drop to 1AA or DII where U can afford to compete every season. Not a big Moorehead fan anymore but the problems go far deeper.

Dont know about Tressel as Prez. but I get your point. Id throw another coache's name in there. Lee Owens actually had them being pretty competitive in the MAC. Recruited some really good players like Hixon,Frye,Blackburn,believe Dwight Smith and some O-linemen. Some of these guys went to the NFL. Believe Owens was fired after a winning season. Brookhart used Owen's guys added some pieces was over .500 in'04 and won a MAC championship in '05. Seems there has always been an AD or President who wants to mess with the program at the wrong time.

I watched both CMU/UB and Miami/Toledo. CMU sure got some juice lately. They were playing crazy D. Then there was Toledo and Miami. To be fair Miami was without its starting QB. BUT, as I watched Toledo particularly the QB Gleason I am thinking Akron isn't close to playing at that level consistently. Toledo coach has been there a long time. Keeps pretty much reloading. Miami has been consistent under Martin. We know about OU also. I see a completely different level of play watching those teams as opposed to Akron. Been that way for way too long. And, now we watch CMU and UB, two teams Akron beat both of which will likey be bowl eligible. Something terribly wrong with this program.

Good points. Somebody elsewhere made the observation about being good between the 20s but terrible inside the 20s.

Interesting take about being good between the 20s.