More Expansion Talk

[UA Fan]

I wouldn't be stunned if Temple was courted by the Big Ten. On the surface I know that brings a big question mark but when you think about it that would open up the Philadelphia TV market, create a natural rival for Penn State, and add a very solid basketball program to the "we're not football only" Big Ten mix.

I suppose anything is possible. But that seems pretty outlandish at this point.

Also, if West Virginia was to move then why the SEC? That seems like a better Big Ten fit as well.

Big 10 presidents were pissed after they added Nebraska. They felt their academics were too weak. Sorry, but WVU doesn't bring the academics to the table.

I didn't know the commissioner and AD's had that much authority to override the presidents...I would have thought it was the other way around.

[ZippyTuba11]

I wouldn't be stunned if Temple was courted by the Big Ten. On the surface I know that brings a big question mark but when you think about it that would open up the Philadelphia TV market, create a natural rival for Penn State, and add a very solid basketball program to the "we're not football only" Big Ten mix.

I suppose anything is possible. But that seems pretty outlandish at this point.

Also, if West Virginia was to move then why the SEC? That seems like a better Big Ten fit as well.

Big 10 presidents were pissed after they added Nebraska. They felt their academics were too weak. Sorry, but WVU doesn't bring the academics to the table.

I didn't know the commissioner and AD's had that much authority to override the presidents...I would have thought it was the other way around.

The presidents voted unanimously to approve Nebraska. The statement that they were pissed is a little dubious to me.

[Zipmeister]

When the trickle down gets to the MAC, and the C-USA's look to the MAC to replace schools taken up to second tier conferences, what are the chances of the MAC going after Cleveland State and Youngstown State or other Horizon League programs?

The MAC is the bottom of the FBS food chain, and if "higher" conferences are looking to FCS, will the MAC have to?

There is no way the MAC invites Cleveland State to join. Those rascals haven't lost a football game in decades!

And on a related note: the Big Ten office just announced that they will be inviting Temple to join the conference right after Ohio State changes their mascot from a Buckeye to a Flying Pig.

Hey I like that idea.

[ksu sucks]

The presidents voted unanimously to approve Nebraska. The statement that they were pissed is a little dubious to me.

You're right. I'm not sure where I got that information. I could have sworn I read that somewhere--I must be spending too much time around Airport KC on the MAC forums.

[ZachTheZip]

The presidents voted unanimously to approve Nebraska. The statement that they were pissed is a little dubious to me.

You're right. I'm not sure where I got that information. I could have sworn I read that somewhere--I must be spending too much time around Airport KC on the MAC forums.

You read the same thing I did, but interpreted it differently. I read as they were fine with Nebraska, but they were split on letting in certain other schools with weaker academics than the Cornhuskers.

[you am i]

The presidents voted unanimously to approve Nebraska. The statement that they were pissed is a little dubious to me.

You're right. I'm not sure where I got that information. I could have sworn I read that somewhere--I must be spending too much time around Airport KC on the MAC forums.

You read the same thing I did, but interpreted it differently. I read as they were fine with Nebraska, but they were split on letting in certain other schools with weaker academics than the Cornhuskers.

The Big Ten is not going to accept any school that is not a member of the American Assoication of Universties. Google it and look at the member institutions. They only want schools with similar academics and endowments.

[ZachTheZip]

The presidents voted unanimously to approve Nebraska. The statement that they were pissed is a little dubious to me.

You're right. I'm not sure where I got that information. I could have sworn I read that somewhere--I must be spending too much time around Airport KC on the MAC forums.

You read the same thing I did, but interpreted it differently. I read as they were fine with Nebraska, but they were split on letting in certain other schools with weaker academics than the Cornhuskers.

The Big Ten is not going to accept any school that is not a member of the American Assoication of Universties. Google it and look at the member institutions. They only want schools with similar academics and endowments.

Notre Dame isn't an AAU member.

[you am i]

The presidents voted unanimously to approve Nebraska. The statement that they were pissed is a little dubious to me.

You're right. I'm not sure where I got that information. I could have sworn I read that somewhere--I must be spending too much time around Airport KC on the MAC forums.

You read the same thing I did, but interpreted it differently. I read as they were fine with Nebraska, but they were split on letting in certain other schools with weaker academics than the Cornhuskers.

The Big Ten is not going to accept any school that is not a member of the American Assoication of Universties. Google it and look at the member institutions. They only want schools with similar academics and endowments.

I should qualify that statement: Notre Dame is not a AAU member, but if ND ever wanted into the Big Ten, I'm sure they's be accepted in a NY minute.

If the Big 12 implodes, which it probably will, Missouri is the team that gets screwed. They have got nowhere to go.

[ksu sucks]

If the Big 12 implodes, which it probably will, Missouri is the team that gets screwed. They have got nowhere to go.

I don't know about Missouri but Iowa State will need a home.

[GP1]

This is a good article about the goings on in college football as it relates to the Big 12. One line stuck out to me about MO, Can't State and UK going to a conference in their price range. We need to think that way as well only I-AA.

[UA Fan]

Atlantic-East and Mountain-Prairie conferences:

http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office...nt-bcs-not-ncaa

[ZippyTuba11]

Interesting article. I actually don't believe that the super sized conferences will be any threat to the NCAA. To me, it's the colleges that get left out that are the biggest threat to the NCAA. What incentive will there be for the lower schools (IE the MAC, WAC, CUSA) to stay with the association when they know they are never going to make any money in it? Do they drop to a lower division? That has to make quite a number of schools that didn't quite make the new BCS field salty.

It would probably never happen, but if the power conferences all go mega, I would love to see the lower tier D-1 schools combine with some of the up-and-coming lower division schools leave the NCAA and form their own association and create their own national championship. The NIT used to decide the basketball national championship now you have the field of 64Imean65Imean68... might point being you never know what might happen.

[GP1]

It would probably never happen, but if the power conferences all go mega, I would love to see the lower tier D-1 schools combine with some of the up-and-coming lower division schools leave the NCAA and form their own association and create their own national championship. The NIT used to decide the basketball national championship now you have the field of 64Imean65Imean68... might point being you never know what might happen.

They can do this now within the NCAA. All the NCAA has to do is create another division and those schools go into that division.

The schools joining the mega conferences have all of the power right now. If the NCAA complains, then they can say sayonara to the NCAA and start their own association. If the non mega conference schools complain, that's fine but nobody is listening.

If this mega conference plan takes off (it will, because the TV networks will make sure of it), then in 10 years, those schools should leave the NCAA and really make some money under their own rules...or lack of rules.

For those of you who want it to be the 1950s, I can only say to you that your dreams are over. College football has forever changed in the past couple of weeks and they aren't ever going back to the way things were before. It may not seem like it now, but the MAC will be better off because of these changes. UofA will be better off because of these changes.

[GP1]

Atlantic-East and Mountain-Prairie conferences:

http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office...nt-bcs-not-ncaa

The author is not looking long term. He had a UN analogy. Fine, here it goes. If everyone on the UN Security Council left the UN (the first five are permanent members): China, France, Russia, UK, US, Austria, Bosnia, Brazil, Gabon, Japan, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Turkey and Uganda, what would the UN then do. There are 192 members. The UN needs the permanent members and the rest of the SC members more than they need the UN.

The mega conference schools can leave the NCAA whenever they want and there is nothing the NCAA can do about it. The NCAA is run by the mega conference Security Council as it is.

[Spin]

Latest word, Texas A&M is staying in the Big 12, as will Texas who wants to start their own cable station. You can't do that in the Pac 10.

Rumor has the Big 12 surviving, and picking up TCU as a replacement.

With the B12 surviving and the Big Ten reportedly done expanding, it sounds like the mega-conference scheme is dead.

[RACER]

the bottom line is this.the big ten makes 242 million on tv revenu.this is exactly like baseball.the mac will never compete against the big ten on a yearly basis.sure cmu beat michigan state last year.thats one game.no big ten team has beat osu.penn state has beat up on mac teams in the last few years.the bottom line is we got pounded by indiana which is one of the worst teams in the big ten.when there is that much difference in money it shows the bcs is out to get rid of the lower conference schools.

[ksu sucks]

Latest word, Texas A&M is staying in the Big 12, as will Texas who wants to start their own cable station. You can't do that in the Pac 10.

Rumor has the Big 12 surviving, and picking up TCU as a replacement.

With the B12 surviving and the Big Ten reportedly done expanding, it sounds like the mega-conference scheme is dead.

Everything depends on A&M now. If A&M heads to the SEC then forget it.

[GP1]

Looks like Texas may be staying in the Big 12....Big 10..whatever, to get their $20 million in TV revenue.....errrrr, I mean, to preserve the integrity of college football. The NCAA is absolutely laughable.

How much is that MAC TV contract worth again? How do we compete at the BCS level again?

[ksu sucks]

Looks like Texas may be staying in the Big 12....Big 10..whatever, to get their $20 million in TV revenue.....errrrr, I mean, to preserve the integrity of college football. The NCAA is absolutely laughable.

How much is that MAC TV contract worth again? How do we compete at the BCS level again?

Texas will only stay if A&M decides to stick it out with the Big 12(whatever). Why would they? A&M will finally be freed from the shadow of big brother and have an equal share of the dough in a much better football conference. Texas knows this and is probably banking on A&M backing out of this 'new' Big 12.

[ZachTheZip]

Texas likely knows A&M is leaving for the SEC, and is stalling to make it look like they were trying to hold things together but A&M bolted so they had no choice but to move to the PAC-16. They don't want to be viewed as the bad guy in all this, even though everyone knows they are.

[GP1]

They don't want to be viewed as the bad guy in all this, even though everyone knows they are.

I think Texas and everyone else is at the point where they don't really care what anyone thinks.

[ksu sucks]

I think Texas and everyone else is at the point where they don't really care what anyone thinks.

I think it has more to do with the Texas state legislature being pissed about a possible UT/A&M split. If A&M leaves for the SEC then UT has an excuse to join the PAC. Remember, UT specifically said that they would only join the new big 12 if all ten teams join(that's southern math for ya).

[Dave in Green]

Not so fast, folks. Latest news is that the Big 12 is not coming totally apart.

CBS Sports Link

[Darkwaters1122]

"I think it has more to do with the Texas state legislature being pissed about a possible UT/A&M split. If A&M leaves for the SEC then UT has an excuse to join the PAC. Remember, UT specifically said that they would only join the new big 12 if all ten teams join(that's southern math for ya). "

"Texas likely knows A&M is leaving for the SEC, and is stalling to make it look like they were trying to hold things together but A&M bolted so they had no choice but to move to the PAC-16. They don't want to be viewed as the bad guy in all this, even though everyone knows they are."

"Texas will only stay if A&M decides to stick it out with the Big 12(whatever). Why would they? A&M will finally be freed from the shadow of big brother and have an equal share of the dough in a much better football conference. Texas knows this and is probably banking on A&M backing out of this 'new' Big 12."

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Hmmm......at least now I know which prognosticators to ignore..or at least seriously question. ;-)

[you am i]

News reports say that Texas is staying in the Big 12, along with Texas A&M. That's probably it for the BCS shake-up, at least for this year.