Elton Alexander's Picks are In!

[skip-zip]

It's always better to be picked low and overachieve than to be picked high and underachieve. Everyone should have low expectations for the Zips until they prove themselves on the field.

Low expectations are for losers. I want to win.

We have one of the top QB's in the MAC, and the MAC is a QB-driven league.

I don't know what to expect from the Zips in 2010, but I certainly expect a team with 16 returning starters to compete well.

Ianello didn't take over a team bereft of talent, like Lee Owens did after Faust. Ianello is taking over a pretty decent group of players.

The Zips should at least be 6-6 this season. New coach, new offensive and defensive schemes...3 BCS OOC's. I don't expect 10 - 2. But another 3 - 9 or 4 - 8 season is out of the question. Don't let any low-aimer fool you... we have more talent than that on-hand.

That would be incorrect. Gerry's last team was loaded freshman and sophomores. And Lee has 14 returning starters for his first season, including a freshman QB with several games of experience. You can verify that if you have a game program from that season.

You can verify your assessment... if you have a crack pipe.

Gerry Faust left Lee Owens with a team that went 1 - 10. The lone win came in the last game of the season, against a likewise 0 - 10 Ohio University team, in the legendary Toilet Bowl. The Zips were an eyelash away from being the worst team is Division 1-A football.

The Gerry Faust* era left Owens with horrific training facilities.

The Gerry Faust* era left Owens with a decrepit Rubber Bowl.

The Gerry Faust era left Owens with NO Quarterback.

Lee Owens got nothing from The Gerry Faust era except a legacy of arrests.... and those players who didn't get arrested would not have made YSU's roster.

Ianello has AWESOME facilities. An AWESOME stadium. A roster of legit MAC-level players. A REAL Quarterback.

Ianello has so many advantages in year #1 vs. what Owens had to deal with in Year #1, it is absolutely unreal.

Oh, BTW - You can verify my comments with reality.

* If you read into my statements that I am blaming Faust for the Rubber Bowl or the crappy training facilities, you are an idiot. Save us all your wisdom, move away from the keyboard, and go back to cutting construction paper with your plastic, rounded-tip scissors.

If being an idiot is pointing out that a statement made by a poster is factually incorrect, then I am an idiot.

I did check it, and it is correct.

You may return to resorting to ranting and name calling any time you like.

[Captain Kangaroo]

It's always better to be picked low and overachieve than to be picked high and underachieve. Everyone should have low expectations for the Zips until they prove themselves on the field.

Low expectations are for losers. I want to win.

We have one of the top QB's in the MAC, and the MAC is a QB-driven league.

I don't know what to expect from the Zips in 2010, but I certainly expect a team with 16 returning starters to compete well.

Ianello didn't take over a team bereft of talent, like Lee Owens did after Faust. Ianello is taking over a pretty decent group of players.

The Zips should at least be 6-6 this season. New coach, new offensive and defensive schemes...3 BCS OOC's. I don't expect 10 - 2. But another 3 - 9 or 4 - 8 season is out of the question. Don't let any low-aimer fool you... we have more talent than that on-hand.

That would be incorrect. Gerry's last team was loaded freshman and sophomores. And Lee has 14 returning starters for his first season, including a freshman QB with several games of experience. You can verify that if you have a game program from that season.

You can verify your assessment... if you have a crack pipe.

Gerry Faust left Lee Owens with a team that went 1 - 10. The lone win came in the last game of the season, against a likewise 0 - 10 Ohio University team, in the legendary Toilet Bowl. The Zips were an eyelash away from being the worst team is Division 1-A football.

The Gerry Faust* era left Owens with horrific training facilities.

The Gerry Faust* era left Owens with a decrepit Rubber Bowl.

The Gerry Faust era left Owens with NO Quarterback.

Lee Owens got nothing from The Gerry Faust era except a legacy of arrests.... and those players who didn't get arrested would not have made YSU's roster.

Ianello has AWESOME facilities. An AWESOME stadium. A roster of legit MAC-level players. A REAL Quarterback.

Ianello has so many advantages in year #1 vs. what Owens had to deal with in Year #1, it is absolutely unreal.

Oh, BTW - You can verify my comments with reality.

* If you read into my statements that I am blaming Faust for the Rubber Bowl or the crappy training facilities, you are an idiot. Save us all your wisdom, move away from the keyboard, and go back to cutting construction paper with your plastic, rounded-tip scissors.

If being an idiot is pointing out that a statement made by a poster is factually incorrect, then I am an idiot.

I did check it, and it is correct.

You may return to resorting to ranting and name calling any time you like.

The floor is yours --

Tell me who this great quarterback that Faust left Owens was? You can't do it. Because he doesn't exist. Why did Owens burn Gromek's (Fr. QB) redshirt with 4 games remaining in the season? Because the tripe Faust left him at QB had no business playing any football at Akron, aside from intramural.

Tell me how the 1-10 team that Owens took over, with a 17% graduation rate, with commonplace player arrests, was better than what Brookhart left Owens. You can't do it. Because it isn't true.

You say you checked things out. That's a hollow statement. Back it up with something.

I laid out facts. That has substance.

BTW - I didn't call you an idiot in my post. I only called people who can't read idiots. Just like the idiot who is thinking about posting "But Faust left Owens with Jason Taylor."

So for that guy I say - Hey idiot...K.e.n.t. had James Harrison. If the other 23 guys suck, one NFL All Pro on defense ain't gonna help.

[skip-zip]

It's always better to be picked low and overachieve than to be picked high and underachieve. Everyone should have low expectations for the Zips until they prove themselves on the field.

Low expectations are for losers. I want to win.

We have one of the top QB's in the MAC, and the MAC is a QB-driven league.

I don't know what to expect from the Zips in 2010, but I certainly expect a team with 16 returning starters to compete well.

Ianello didn't take over a team bereft of talent, like Lee Owens did after Faust. Ianello is taking over a pretty decent group of players.

The Zips should at least be 6-6 this season. New coach, new offensive and defensive schemes...3 BCS OOC's. I don't expect 10 - 2. But another 3 - 9 or 4 - 8 season is out of the question. Don't let any low-aimer fool you... we have more talent than that on-hand.

That would be incorrect. Gerry's last team was loaded freshman and sophomores. And Lee has 14 returning starters for his first season, including a freshman QB with several games of experience. You can verify that if you have a game program from that season.

You can verify your assessment... if you have a crack pipe.

Gerry Faust left Lee Owens with a team that went 1 - 10. The lone win came in the last game of the season, against a likewise 0 - 10 Ohio University team, in the legendary Toilet Bowl. The Zips were an eyelash away from being the worst team is Division 1-A football.

The Gerry Faust* era left Owens with horrific training facilities.

The Gerry Faust* era left Owens with a decrepit Rubber Bowl.

The Gerry Faust era left Owens with NO Quarterback.

Lee Owens got nothing from The Gerry Faust era except a legacy of arrests.... and those players who didn't get arrested would not have made YSU's roster.

Ianello has AWESOME facilities. An AWESOME stadium. A roster of legit MAC-level players. A REAL Quarterback.

Ianello has so many advantages in year #1 vs. what Owens had to deal with in Year #1, it is absolutely unreal.

Oh, BTW - You can verify my comments with reality.

* If you read into my statements that I am blaming Faust for the Rubber Bowl or the crappy training facilities, you are an idiot. Save us all your wisdom, move away from the keyboard, and go back to cutting construction paper with your plastic, rounded-tip scissors.

If being an idiot is pointing out that a statement made by a poster is factually incorrect, then I am an idiot.

I did check it, and it is correct.

You may return to resorting to ranting and name calling any time you like.

The floor is yours --

Tell me who this great quarterback that Faust left Owens was? You can't do it. Because he doesn't exist. Why did Owens burn Gromek's (Fr. QB) redshirt with 4 games remaining in the season? Because the tripe Faust left him at QB had no business playing any football at Akron, aside from intramural.

Tell me how the 1-10 team that Owens took over, with a 17% graduation rate, with commonplace player arrests, was better than what Brookhart left Owens. You can't do it. Because it isn't true.

You say you checked things out. That's a hollow statement. Back it up with something.

I laid out facts. That has substance.

BTW - I didn't call you an idiot in my post. I only called people who can't read idiots. Just like the idiot who is thinking about posting "But Faust left Owens with Jason Taylor."

So for that guy I say - Hey idiot...K.e.n.t. had James Harrison. If the other 23 guys suck, one NFL All Pro on defense ain't gonna help.

If I read your statement to which I objected again, I see that you point out that we have a lot of returning starters this year, and that our current coach was left with a ton of talent, and Faust left Owens with nothing. In one case, 16 starters returned, and in the other case 14 starters returned. I guess you can try to split hairs all you want about what players were on those two teams. But seriously, it's absurd to claim that one situation was a ton of talent and the other was nothing, when they were quite similar....bad teams with a bunch of underclassman starters And that 1995 team did indeed have a future NFL defensive MVP, and a QB who I believe set a single game Akron passing record in his first game his freshman year, the previous year.

[Darkwaters1122]

Ianello has AWESOME facilities. An AWESOME stadium. A roster of legit MAC-level players. A REAL Quarterback.

Ianello has so many advantages in year #1 vs. what Owens had to deal with in Year #1, it is absolutely unreal.

Oh, BTW - You can verify my comments with reality.

I tried to verify that we have a REAL Quarterback (top of the MAC) and could not find it. Can you send me the links???

[Darkwaters1122]

MAC Record / Returning Starters

Teams with better record and more returnees:

Temple 7-1 19

Can't 4-4 16

Buffalo 3-5 14

Teams with better record and less returnees:

Ohio 7-1 13

BG 6-2 7

Teams with worse record and more returnees:

Miami 1-7 20

Teams with worse record and less returnees:

None

Help me out here.... Why is it so obvious that the Zips have the talent to compete for the MAC East Championship??? What am I (and most of the media) missing??

Don't get me wrong....I have high hopes for the Zips this year. But why SHOULD they be considered favorites?? Maybe I am just a loser because I don't have high expectations.....but I am a happy, satisfied one. Satisfied with my wife, daughter, job, friends, family achievements and more. Some of you winners must be really depressed (help me out here....why be satisfied with anything less then General??).

[Dave in Green]

Discussions comparing the overall talent of players and teams from different eras rarely results in consensus agreement. The further we go back, the fuzzier our memories get.

[dreal1scout]

MAC Record / Returning Starters

Teams with better record and more returnees:

Temple 7-1 19

Can't 4-4 16

Buffalo 3-5 14

Teams with better record and less returnees:

Ohio 7-1 13

BG 6-2 7

Teams with worse record and more returnees:

Miami 1-7 20

Teams with worse record and less returnees:

None

Help me out here.... Why is it so obvious that the Zips have the talent to compete for the MAC East Championship??? What am I (and most of the media) missing??

Don't get me wrong....I have high hopes for the Zips this year. But why SHOULD they be considered favorites?? Maybe I am just a loser because I don't have high expectations.....but I am a happy, satisfied one. Satisfied with my wife, daughter, job, friends, family achievements and more. Some of you winners must be really depressed (help me out here....why be satisfied with anything less then General??).

General Patton?

[Darkwaters1122]

MAC Record / Returning Starters

Teams with better record and more returnees:

Temple 7-1 19

Can't 4-4 16

Buffalo 3-5 14

Teams with better record and less returnees:

Ohio 7-1 13

BG 6-2 7

Teams with worse record and more returnees:

Miami 1-7 20

Teams with worse record and less returnees:

None

Help me out here.... Why is it so obvious that the Zips have the talent to compete for the MAC East Championship??? What am I (and most of the media) missing??

Don't get me wrong....I have high hopes for the Zips this year. But why SHOULD they be considered favorites?? Maybe I am just a loser because I don't have high expectations.....but I am a happy, satisfied one. Satisfied with my wife, daughter, job, friends, family achievements and more. Some of you winners must be really depressed (help me out here....why be satisfied with anything less then General??).

General Patton?

"Less than General" Kangaroo seems to think having lower expectations are for losers. I think that is naiveté.

[Dave in Green]

I give the Captain high marks for an original thought in a world of copycat thinkers. Seriously. Google the phrase "lower expectations are for losers" or "low expectations are for losers" with quotation marks. There are only a few instances of these combinations of words ever having been used on the worldwide internet. That's impressive, and I really mean that. Most phrases produce thousands or millions of hits.

Whether it's accurate or not is another matter.

[osubsee80]

Pretty accurate prediction. Anyone that seen the spring game should have seen that the Zips are in for another terrible season.

[ZachTheZip]

Doesn't anyone think that Ron Powlus will have PN7 develop into the top QB in the MAC? I still like our chances with PN7 at the helm.

Again I ask: What if Rodgers gets the starting spot?

Well that doesn't fit into your Ianello is rebuilding concept. Rodgers is a Junior now. The question you should be asking is "What if Zach D'orazio gets the starting spot?"

Won't have to worry about that: http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/in...mple_expec.html

"Open season: First-year Akron coach Rob Ianello said he expects a heated competition for the starting QB job between sophomore incumbent Patrick Nicely and the player he replaced because of injury, Matt Rodgers. The junior missed the second half of last season and much of the spring because of knee injuries.

'He [Rodgers] feels very comfortable,' Ianello said. 'No limitations. He's ready to go.'

One player who will not be in the QB mix is freshman recruit Zach D'Orazio out of Cuyahoga Heights High School. 'He will not enroll until January,' Ianello said.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I tried to verify that we have a REAL Quarterback (top of the MAC) and could not find it. Can you send me the links???

I know you are out in California, so you can't follow the team all that well.

The quarterback I'm speaking about is Patrick Nicely. He's very good.

Here is a link where you can learn more about Patrick

I'm always happy to help out those who are a little less-versed on the Zips program.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Help me out here.... Why is it so obvious that the Zips have the talent to compete for the MAC East Championship??? What am I (and most of the media) missing??

Beats me. Tell me who you're referencing? I said I expect the Zips to go 6-6, or better.

Don't get me wrong....I have high hopes for the Zips this year. But why SHOULD they be considered favorites?? Maybe I am just a loser because I don't have high expectations.....but I am a happy, satisfied one. Satisfied with my wife, daughter, job, friends, family achievements and more. Some of you winners must be really depressed (help me out here....why be satisfied with anything less then General??).

I always enjoy the poster who fabricates hyperbole.

No one stated the Zips should be considered favorites to win a championship. Some ZN members have simply stated the team left for Ianello has some excellent talent. And feel, in a MAC East Division that can hardly be confused with the SEC, if RI is any sort of a decent coach, he can win a respectable amount of games fairly soon.

Reading the comments regarding the upcoming season, it heartens me to see that the posters whom I feel have a good knowledge of the program feel that 2010 can be successful for the Zips based upon the returning talent, and our MAC schedule. It further heartens me to see the ones who don't feel the season will be successful (success defined by a .500 record or better in year #1) are either some of our weaker posters, or ones that tycially have a "sky is falling" attitude about everything.

RI is the wildcard in whether or not the Zips can go .500, not the talent on the field. And other than stereotypes, there's no tangible evidence that he can, or cannot coach.

Nice to hear you are satified with your wife, daughter, job, friends, family achievements and more. I am also satisfied with my wife, son, job, friends, family achievements and more. Of course, that's not all too interesting to ZN members, so I will stick to discussions regarding Zips athletics.

I hope your glaucoma brings you a lot of medical marajuana out in Cali, and it gets you through the football season.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Doesn't anyone think that Ron Powlus will have PN7 develop into the top QB in the MAC? I still like our chances with PN7 at the helm.

Again I ask: What if Rodgers gets the starting spot?

Well that doesn't fit into your Ianello is rebuilding concept. Rodgers is a Junior now. The question you should be asking is "What if Zach D'orazio gets the starting spot?"

Won't have to worry about that: http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/in...mple_expec.html

"Open season: First-year Akron coach Rob Ianello said he expects a heated competition for the starting QB job between sophomore incumbent Patrick Nicely and the player he replaced because of injury, Matt Rodgers. The junior missed the second half of last season and much of the spring because of knee injuries.

'He [Rodgers] feels very comfortable,' Ianello said. 'No limitations. He's ready to go.'

If Ianello tells Rodgers that he's going to warm the bench for the Zips in 2010, he runs the risk that Rodgers will transfer. If he keeps the alleged QB competition running throughout the summer, Rodgers has a better chance of staying (where's he going to transfer in September, after all teams have concluded their camp, and expect to start?). Rodgers is a valuable back up. Nicely is the starter.

[Captain Kangaroo]

"Less than General" Kangaroo seems to think having lower expectations are for losers. I think that is naiveté.

Still waters run deep. Dark waters... apparently not so deep.

[Darkwaters1122]

Help me out here.... Why is it so obvious that the Zips have the talent to compete for the MAC East Championship??? What am I (and most of the media) missing??

Beats me. Tell me who you're referencing? I said I expect the Zips to go 6-6, or better.

Don't get me wrong....I have high hopes for the Zips this year. But why SHOULD they be considered favorites?? Maybe I am just a loser because I don't have high expectations.....but I am a happy, satisfied one. Satisfied with my wife, daughter, job, friends, family achievements and more. Some of you winners must be really depressed (help me out here....why be satisfied with anything less then General??).

I always enjoy the poster who fabricates hyperbole.

No one stated the Zips should be considered favorites to win a championship. Some ZN members have simply stated the team left for Ianello has some excellent talent. And feel, in a MAC East Division that can hardly be confused with the SEC, if RI is any sort of a decent coach, he can win a respectable amount of games fairly soon.

Reading the comments regarding the upcoming season, it heartens me to see that the posters whom I feel have a good knowledge of the program feel that 2010 can be successful for the Zips based upon the returning talent, and our MAC schedule. It further heartens me to see the ones who don't feel the season will be successful (success defined by a .500 record or better in year #1) are either some of our weaker posters, or ones that tycially have a "sky is falling" attitude about everything.

RI is the wildcard in whether or not the Zips can go .500, not the talent on the field. And other than stereotypes, there's no tangible evidence that he can, or cannot coach.

Nice to hear you are satified with your wife, daughter, job, friends, family achievements and more. I am also satisfied with my wife, son, job, friends, family achievements and more. Of course, that's not all too interesting to ZN members, so I will stick to discussions regarding Zips athletics.

I hope your glaucoma brings you a lot of medical marajuana out in Cali, and it gets you through the football season.

hey LTGC....

You wrote previously: "The Zips should at least be 6-6 this season. New coach, new offensive and defensive schemes...3 BCS OOC's. I don't expect 10 - 2." "Today's Zips have sufficient talent to compete in the MAC East. I'm tired of 3-year plans."

Somewhere between 6-6 and 10-2 and compete for the MAC East Championship. THIS year...not in year 2 or 3.

From your post today...you have made a subtle change and LOWERED your expectations. I am sure you will say it is the same. LOL

So why did you choose the name "Captain Kangaroo"?? "Captain" was as high as you could achieve?? Or You like talking down to people and treat them like children?? The way you call people names who disagree with you I am betting it is the latter.

[Captain Kangaroo]

So why did you choose the name "Captain Kangaroo"?? "Captain" was as high as you could achieve?? Or You like talking down to people and treat them like children?? The way you call people names who disagree with you I am betting it is the latter.

Hey Shallow Puddle --

Google "Bob Keeshan." The Zips mascot is Zippy...it's a kangaroo. Get it?

Aren't you the same guy that called someone a "moron" the other day? Now you preach about talking down to people? You crack me up. What a hypocrite. LOL...OMG...PBR.

[ZachTheZip]

If Ianello tells Rodgers that he's going to warm the bench for the Zips in 2010, he runs the risk that Rodgers will transfer. If he keeps the alleged QB competition running throughout the summer, Rodgers has a better chance of staying (where's he going to transfer in September, after all teams have concluded their camp, and expect to start?). Rodgers is a valuable back up. Nicely is the starter.

Rodgers is athletic enough to be used in a wildcat formation. I think whoever somes up short in the competition will still see playing time.

[Darkwaters1122]

So why did you choose the name "Captain Kangaroo"?? "Captain" was as high as you could achieve?? Or You like talking down to people and treat them like children?? The way you call people names who disagree with you I am betting it is the latter.

Hey Shallow Puddle --

Google "Bob Keeshan." The Zips mascot is Zippy...it's a kangaroo. Get it?

Aren't you the same guy that called someone a "moron" the other day? Now you preach about talking down to people? You crack me up. What a hypocrite. LOL...OMG...PBR.

Yes...that was me. And I apologized and changed the post. And that was after a long debate with someone I will no longer debate.

You call EVERYONE names who do not agree with your opinions (and think your opinions are fact). And never retract. But I doubt you will see the difference.

Yes…although you think I am an idiot, my IQ is high enough to know the kangaroo is our mascot and fondly referred to as Zippy. I will let the rest of your post slide.

You seem like a avid Zips fan and that is a good thing...even if we disagree at times. But when you make statements calling anyone who disagrees with you an "idiot" or worse...it is just wrong and intellectually lazy. Maybe it is because of the current political climate of name calling and polarization. I don't know and I don't care. I read other posters complain about the same thing with you and I am willing to bet you have the same issues in your personal life. Just tone it down a little and stop with the name calling and you will not alienate and infuriate people. And remember…people who are here are all fans of the Zips.

[Dave in Green]

..... Just tone it down a little and stop with the name calling and you will not alienate and infuriate people. .....

I think someone once tried that line on Don Rickles. Mr. Warmth replied, "You know, every night when I go out on stage to do my comedy routines, there's always one nagging fear in the back of my mind. I'm always afraid that somewhere out there, there is one person in the audience that I'm NOT going to offend."

The moral is that some insults are to be taken seriously and some are to be laughed off as comedy shtick.

[scottditzen]

Agree Rodgers looks pretty fast. But I don't know if he has the ability of a Frye or Cribbs to endure the abuse of running the ball with regularity.

p.s. don't Nicely and Rodgers have similar 40 times? Rodgers does look quicker to me.

If Ianello tells Rodgers that he's going to warm the bench for the Zips in 2010, he runs the risk that Rodgers will transfer. If he keeps the alleged QB competition running throughout the summer, Rodgers has a better chance of staying (where's he going to transfer in September, after all teams have concluded their camp, and expect to start?). Rodgers is a valuable back up. Nicely is the starter.

Rodgers is athletic enough to be used in a wildcat formation. I think whoever somes up short in the competition will still see playing time.

[skip-zip]

I tried to verify that we have a REAL Quarterback (top of the MAC) and could not find it. Can you send me the links???

I know you are out in California, so you can't follow the team all that well.

The quarterback I'm speaking about is Patrick Nicely. He's very good.

Here is a link where you can learn more about Patrick

I'm always happy to help out those who are a little less-versed on the Zips program.

Then I'll give you a little more follow-up information about the 1995 team, and verify something I said earlier, so that you can add this to your wealth of knowledge.

I think on two separate occasions on this thread, you said that Lee had NO quarterback heading into the 1995 season. And I stated that he had a freshman QB who just came off of a record-breaking performance. And I did verify that my memory is correct.

Magrell threw for 347 yards against Ball State in a game at the Rubber Bowl in Nov. of 1994. It was an Akron single-game record, and withstood as a record until Charlie Frye came along. And the amazing thing is, he did NOT even start the game. I think most people would feel a lot more confident about that QB situation entering the next season, compared to the situation we have now.

In respect to your overall "this group of guys is more talented than that group of guys" remarks, here's where I think the problem is. We can look back now and see the progression of the careers of players during the transitions of other Akron coaches. We can't do that now. We have no idea where the careers of these players are going.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Yes...that was me. And I apologized and changed the post. And that was after a long debate with someone I will no longer debate.

You call EVERYONE names who do not agree with your opinions (and think your opinions are fact). And never retract. But I doubt you will see the difference.

Yes…although you think I am an idiot, my IQ is high enough to know the kangaroo is our mascot and fondly referred to as Zippy. I will let the rest of your post slide.

You seem like a avid Zips fan and that is a good thing...even if we disagree at times. But when you make statements calling anyone who disagrees with you an "idiot" or worse...it is just wrong and intellectually lazy. Maybe it is because of the current political climate of name calling and polarization. I don't know and I don't care. I read other posters complain about the same thing with you and I am willing to bet you have the same issues in your personal life. Just tone it down a little and stop with the name calling and you will not alienate and infuriate people. And remember…people who are here are all fans of the Zips.

It is pretty simple --

You directly called someone a "moron" on our board. You then chastised me for name-calling. That is being a hypocrite. It is, in fact, the text-book definition. If you backed off after someone called you out, it doesn't erase your action, or erase the insight into the root of the comment's intent.

Also - I called no one an "idiot." Read my post. My text is very clear for all who can read - I stated (summary): ..."anyone who thinks I (CK) am blaming Gerry Faust for the lack of training facilities, or the delapidated Rubber Bowl, is an idiot." That is WAY different than calling someone an idiot.

Did I call you "Shallow Puddle?" Yes. If you want to give some 3rd grade level mocking of my board name, then I can certainly follow suit. You set the tone. I'm happy to follow, if that is how you want to roll.

Your advice on how to conduct myself on ZN is much appreciated. However, a guy with 28 posts telling someone who:

1.) Founded ZipsNation (along with a few others)

2.) Funds ZipsNation

3.) Has 5,500 posts on ZipsNation

how he should conduct him/herself on ZN is pretty egotistical.

My advice to YOU, should you want to continue posting on ZN, is as follows -

1.) Stop YOUR name-calling, and 3rd Grade BS

2.) Stop YOUR commentary on any aspect of my, or any other member's, personal life

This board was created to discuss Zips athletics. Period.

The Moderators here do not have time to deal with your behavior, and will not tolerate it.

[Darkwaters1122]

Yes...that was me. And I apologized and changed the post. And that was after a long debate with someone I will no longer debate.

You call EVERYONE names who do not agree with your opinions (and think your opinions are fact). And never retract. But I doubt you will see the difference.

Yes…although you think I am an idiot, my IQ is high enough to know the kangaroo is our mascot and fondly referred to as Zippy. I will let the rest of your post slide.

You seem like a avid Zips fan and that is a good thing...even if we disagree at times. But when you make statements calling anyone who disagrees with you an "idiot" or worse...it is just wrong and intellectually lazy. Maybe it is because of the current political climate of name calling and polarization. I don't know and I don't care. I read other posters complain about the same thing with you and I am willing to bet you have the same issues in your personal life. Just tone it down a little and stop with the name calling and you will not alienate and infuriate people. And remember…people who are here are all fans of the Zips.

It is pretty simple --

You directly called someone a "moron" on our board. You then chastised me for name-calling. That is being a hypocrite. It is, in fact, the text-book definition. If you backed off after someone called you out, it doesn't erase your action, or erase the insight into the root of the comment's intent.

Also - I called no one an "idiot." Read my post. My text is very clear for all who can read - I stated (summary): ..."anyone who thinks I (CK) am blaming Gerry Faust for the lack of training facilities, or the delapidated Rubber Bowl, is an idiot." That is WAY different than calling someone an idiot.

Did I call you "Shallow Puddle?" Yes. If you want to give some 3rd grade level mocking of my board name, then I can certainly follow suit. You set the tone. I'm happy to follow, if that is how you want to roll.

Your advice on how to conduct myself on ZN is much appreciated. However, a guy with 28 posts telling someone who:

1.) Founded ZipsNation (along with a few others)

2.) Funds ZipsNation

3.) Has 5,500 posts on ZipsNation

how he should conduct him/herself on ZN is pretty egotistical.

My advice to YOU, should you want to continue posting on ZN, is as follows -

1.) Stop YOUR name-calling, and 3rd Grade BS

2.) Stop YOUR commentary on any aspect of my, or any other member's, personal life

This board was created to discuss Zips athletics. Period.

The Moderators here do not have time to deal with your behavior, and will not tolerate it.

Warning ( From: Captain Kangaroo )

I don't have time to deal with your personal comments, and I will not tolerate it.

This is only the 3rd warning I have issued in the 8 years this board has existed. That speaks volumes. Change how you approach the board.

The next warning will be a suspension.

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[johnnyzip84]

I tried to verify that we have a REAL Quarterback (top of the MAC) and could not find it. Can you send me the links???

I know you are out in California, so you can't follow the team all that well.

The quarterback I'm speaking about is Patrick Nicely. He's very good.

Here is a link where you can learn more about Patrick

I'm always happy to help out those who are a little less-versed on the Zips program.

Then I'll give you a little more follow-up information about the 1995 team, and verify something I said earlier, so that you can add this to your wealth of knowledge.

I think on two separate occasions on this thread, you said that Lee had NO quarterback heading into the 1995 season. And I stated that he had a freshman QB who just came off of a record-breaking performance. And I did verify that my memory is correct.

Magrell threw for 347 yards against Ball State in a game at the Rubber Bowl in Nov. of 1994. It was an Akron single-game record, and withstood as a record until Charlie Frye came along. And the amazing thing is, he did NOT even start the game. I think most people would feel a lot more confident about that QB situation entering the next season, compared to the situation we have now.

In respect to your overall "this group of guys is more talented than that group of guys" remarks, here's where I think the problem is. We can look back now and see the progression of the careers of players during the transitions of other Akron coaches. We can't do that now. We have no idea where the careers of these players are going.

I remember listening to the Magrell game against Ball St on the radio, because the game was played in Muncie.

Link

Nevertheless, it was quite a performance from a true FR coming off the bench as you noted Skip. But I also have a recollection that Magrell and LO's incoming staff immediately had "issues". Whether is was the change in scheme, personality conflicts or whatever, I believe it was pretty clear early on that Brian would not remain a Zip for long. While there are some similarities to the QB situation in 2010 (change in scheme), I think the chances of Nicely pulling up stakes are pretty remote.

Like you, no doubt, I was at the "loser bowl" versus OU later that year. It's just my opinion, but I'll take the talent from last year's Zips over that squad hands down. If the Zips somehow manage to win only 2 games this year, it's ALL on iCoach, IMHO.