Article on the Youthfulness of Zips' Roster

[Blue & Gold]

"...a roster makeup that has 46 freshmen, redshirt freshmen or sophomores out of the 76 UA scholarship recipients."Linky

[ZachTheZip]

And the list of redshirts burned last game. Four in all, likely more will go as we move forward.

[BirdZip]

"...a roster makeup that has 46 freshmen, redshirt freshmen or sophomores out of the 76 UA scholarship recipients."Linky

I don't have the stats, but can anyone tell me if this is actually that abnormal? If you include redshirt freshmen, freshmen, sophomores, juniors and seniors, that's five classes. If you average it out, you would expect one-fifth, or 20%, of your roster to be from each class. That would mean 60% would be made up of RF, F and S. 46 of 76 is 60.5%--sounds pretty close to expected. If the percentage was weighted to the juniors and seniors, then it would be weighted to the lower side in the following years. This stat is meaningless to me.

[Zipmeister]

"...a roster makeup that has 46 freshmen, redshirt freshmen or sophomores out of the 76 UA scholarship recipients."Linky

I don't have the stats, but can anyone tell me if this is actually that abnormal? If you include redshirt freshmen, freshmen, sophomores, juniors and seniors, that's five classes. If you average it out, you would expect one-fifth, or 20%, of your roster to be from each class. That would mean 60% would be made up of RF, F and S. 46 of 76 is 60.5%--sounds pretty close to expected. If the percentage was weighted to the juniors and seniors, then it would be weighted to the lower side in the following years. This stat is meaningless to me.

Your basic conclusion is correct, but I believe is based upon faulty reasoning. Because redshirt FR and FR come from the same recruiting class, (there are really only four classes and) they would make up approximately 40% of a roster for a team that retained all members of each recruiting class. Some attrition occurs over the four or five year college experience because of health, academic, personal and other reasons, and the attrition rate is a positive function of tenure, so if redshirt FR and FR account for over 40% of a roster this would not be unusual. For (a roughly accurate) example assume a team signs 25 scholarships per year and loses about 10% of the players from each class each year (let's say 3 players per year). Once the roster hits a steady state, the team would be comprised of 82 members, 47 of whom would be SO, FR or redshirt FR. That's 57.3%.

[Buckzip]

"...a roster makeup that has 46 freshmen, redshirt freshmen or sophomores out of the 76 UA scholarship recipients."Linky

I don't have the stats, but can anyone tell me if this is actually that abnormal? If you include redshirt freshmen, freshmen, sophomores, juniors and seniors, that's five classes. If you average it out, you would expect one-fifth, or 20%, of your roster to be from each class. That would mean 60% would be made up of RF, F and S. 46 of 76 is 60.5%--sounds pretty close to expected. If the percentage was weighted to the juniors and seniors, then it would be weighted to the lower side in the following years. This stat is meaningless to me.

Your basic conclusion is correct, but I believe is based upon faulty reasoning. Because redshirt FR and FR come from the same recruiting class, (there are really only four classes and) they would make up approximately 40% of a roster for a team that retained all members of each recruiting class. Some attrition occurs over the four or five year college experience because of health, academic, personal and other reasons, and the attrition rate is a positive function of tenure, so if redshirt FR and FR account for over 40% of a roster this would not be unusual. For (a roughly accurate) example assume a team signs 25 scholarships per year and loses about 10% of the players from each class each year (let's say 3 players per year). Once the roster hits a steady state, the team would be comprised of 82 members, 47 of whom would be SO, FR or redshirt FR. That's 57.3%.

Freshman and rs freshman do not come from the same recruiting class. RS freshman are last years recruiting class.Technically you sould say true sophomores and rs freshman are the same class.

[Zipmeister]

"...a roster makeup that has 46 freshmen, redshirt freshmen or sophomores out of the 76 UA scholarship recipients."Linky

I don't have the stats, but can anyone tell me if this is actually that abnormal? If you include redshirt freshmen, freshmen, sophomores, juniors and seniors, that's five classes. If you average it out, you would expect one-fifth, or 20%, of your roster to be from each class. That would mean 60% would be made up of RF, F and S. 46 of 76 is 60.5%--sounds pretty close to expected. If the percentage was weighted to the juniors and seniors, then it would be weighted to the lower side in the following years. This stat is meaningless to me.

Your basic conclusion is correct, but I believe is based upon faulty reasoning. Because redshirt FR and FR come from the same recruiting class, (there are really only four classes and) they would make up approximately 40% of a roster for a team that retained all members of each recruiting class. Some attrition occurs over the four or five year college experience because of health, academic, personal and other reasons, and the attrition rate is a positive function of tenure, so if redshirt FR and FR account for over 40% of a roster this would not be unusual. For (a roughly accurate) example assume a team signs 25 scholarships per year and loses about 10% of the players from each class each year (let's say 3 players per year). Once the roster hits a steady state, the team would be comprised of 82 members, 47 of whom would be SO, FR or redshirt FR. That's 57.3%.

Freshman and rs freshman do not come from the same recruiting class. RS freshman are last years recruiting class.Technically you sould say true sophomores and rs freshman are the same class.

You are correct sir.

[ZachTheZip]

Hasan Hazime getting a career-ending injury sucks big time.