Buckzip Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Great recruiter and Ohio coaches love him Has Akron ties and comes from a good coaching tree. Not my first choice but might be a great hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiroad1 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Great recruiter and Ohio coaches love him Has Akron ties and comes from a good coaching tree. Not my first choice but might be a great hire. And this comes from a credible source???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Some on here won't like it, but I'd be ok with it. The performance of OSU had more to do with all the missing players then his coaching ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Great recruiter and Ohio coaches love him Has Akron ties and comes from a good coaching tree. Not my first choice but might be a great hire. And this comes from a credible source???? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 [Citation Needed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Some on here won't like it, but I'd be ok with it. The performance of OSU had more to do with all the missing players then his coaching ability. Yeah, he'll be missing those players (and more) if he comes here. I don't agree that it's an excuse. We need someone who gets the most out of who he's got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 [Citation Needed] Sorry. I don't really care if you believe me. Just putting out there what I heard. I never said he will be the HC. I said he will be first choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiroad1 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Some on here won't like it, but I'd be ok with it. The performance of OSU had more to do with all the missing players then his coaching ability. Yeah, he'll be missing those players (and more) if he comes here. I don't agree that it's an excuse. We need someone who gets the most out of who he's got. The first step has been taken. Next is getting the right new leader. Personally, I think Fickel would be a great pick if Akron can get him. He knows how to run a top program, has the x and o experience, and should be a strong recruiter. He was an incredible high school wrestler and an OSU football player. He must be a tremendosusly driven competitor. IMO, if he were to make good selections for his assistant coaches, he could begin to turn things around quickly. For those critcizing spiking the ball on third down at the end of the game today, even the announcers were not sure that that was not a decision made by the qb on the field. Regardless, I think Fickel would be a great add. Anybody dreaming about Stoops or other big name coaches needs to be more realistic. That aint gonna happen. Fick would be a huge move for this program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 [Citation Needed] Sorry. I don't really care if you believe me. Just putting out there what I heard. I never said he will be the HC. I said he will be first choice im just messin with ya. i do it with my friends whenever they speculate about something lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 [Citation Needed] Sorry. I don't really care if you believe me. Just putting out there what I heard. I never said he will be the HC. I said he will be first choice im just messin with ya. i do it with my friends whenever they speculate about something lol Me too. The hangup will be money. He will make More as an asst at OSU than the HC here. It depends how badly he wants to be a HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipperRoo44 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Paul Winters. Alum. Recruiter. PROVEN HEAD COACH. WINNER. Get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zips4ever2008 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm not sure how I feel about Fickel. I would prefer to not make a rush hire just to make a hire. I will say that I didn't like how all this Urben Meyer stuff came up when Fickel was still coach. Give Fickel a chance to coach the rest of the season and see if he's still interested in the job after the season. Talk about classless. Then again, it is Ohio State and they are good about being classless and not giving a s*** about what others say and think of them. Ohio State also has the balls to go after someone who wasn't running a clean program at Florida and has health issues. If UM were to get the job, I don't see him being around three years before he leaves. I did enjoy Michigan beating Ohio State today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 No no no a thousand times no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Wasn't it yesterday that someone said that Fickell would stay on Meyer's staff at osu? Would anyone in their right mind take this place as their first hc job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiroad1 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Wasn't it yesterday that someone said that Fickell would stay on Meyer's staff at osu? Would anyone in their right mind take this place as their first hc job? An ambitious coach needs to demonstrate THEY make a difference in a program. Taking a 2-22 program makes it pretty easy to show improvement. Some coaches and their agents will surely consider Akron a palce where they can make an impact in 3-5 years and then move up to a more notable program. I'm okay if we are a stepping stone program. If the coach moves on, it means he was successful here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm not sure how I feel about Fickel. I would prefer to not make a rush hire just to make a hire. I will say that I didn't like how all this Urben Meyer stuff came up when Fickel was still coach. Give Fickel a chance to coach the rest of the season and see if he's still interested in the job after the season. Talk about classless. Then again, it is Ohio State and they are good about being classless and not giving a s*** about what others say and think of them. Ohio State also has the balls to go after someone who wasn't running a clean program at Florida and has health issues. If UM were to get the job, I don't see him being around three years before he leaves. I did enjoy Michigan beating Ohio State today. You have no idea what you are talking about. None whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipRoo Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Fickell and Winters have their supporters. Either would be a major upgrade, obviously. But Proenza needs to first thoroughly investigate whether Tressel or Bowden would ever have an interest in the job. Either of them would be a Grand Slam, instead of simply a solid choice. At this point, the right person to fill that stadium MUST be taken into consideration. We've seen what happens when a no-name goof is given that responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I think one of the reasons I prefer someone who has had success in the FCS vs. an assistant (or one year HC) from a "Big Time" program is that the coaches from the smaller schools know how to recruit and work with "Lesser" talent. Lets be honest, most kids in Ohio fall all over themselves to attend OSU so there really is no sell. I would also imagine that having great talent around you all the time makes your coaching job a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Does anybody think Proenza told TW "You will use a search committee!"? I sure hope he did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiroad1 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Does anybody think Proenza told TW "You will use a search committee!"? I sure hope he did! I think it is likely a search committe has been formed. The bigger question in my mind is around the rules of the search committee. I certainly hope a process has been established that assures the AD does NOT have final decision making authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Zook is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Considering the demographics in the Akron area, the idea of hiring Paul Winters seems pretty appealing. He has turned around a program at an urban university, he has obvious ties here, seems solid to me. Why is there usually push back on here when his name comes up? Wouldn't he bring the potential to recruit well here? What are the negatives with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Considering the demographics in the Akron area, the idea of hiring Paul Winters seems pretty appealing. He has turned around a program at an urban university, he has obvious ties here, seems solid to me. Why is there usually push back on here when his name comes up? Wouldn't he bring the potential to recruit well here? What are the negatives with him? I understand EXACTLY what you are saying and I agree. A few years ago, we didn't see enough from Paul to be certain, but that isn't the case now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Last time we were hiring a coach, I said that I didn't think Winters had proved himself yet but that he needed a few more years to show what he's got. Back then I said that he would be a much better candidate by the time Ianello inevitably got fired. That time is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I don't know that Fickell is the answer. What I saw at the end of the OSU/Michigan game was terrible management at the end of the game when OSU needed to score. This is the biggest hire ever coming up for the football program. They need to get it right at all costs. They need to look at all options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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