originalrowdy Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 It looks like Buffalo and Can't can end the season tied at 8-8 but Can't wont the season series 2-0. I suspect that will keep Can't on our side of the bracket. Looking at Buffalo's schedule this season there is a loss on the schedule to Eastern Michigan where the only scored 46 points and lost by 19. It was at EMU but if I'm KD and we have to play them again I'd watch that game to see what happened and how EMU held Buffalo to 28% shooting in the 2nd half. Maybe it was just a bad night for Buffalo as they also shot 11-22 from the line. As I stated later last night, I believe Can't has LOCKED up the #4 seed. They are on our side of the bracket guaranteed. My BIG concern is Buffalo - who can get the #5 seed with a Win + EMU loss. If either Buffalo (is in Canada) loses OR EMU wins, then EMU is the #5 seed. All the rest of the teams filter out the remaining seeds. I know I'd rather play EMU than Buffalo, who also played us tough in our house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Honestly at this point I don't think it matters much. I remember having these discussions when the West winner got the automatic #2 seed and the Zips (and everyone else had to fight through several games to get to the championship but with the Zips having a number one seed and only having to play two games to win it all they are going to get two pretty good teams no what. I have faith in them though, on a "neutral" court I believe they can take down anyone in the MAC. Bring 'em on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Honestly at this point I don't think it matters much. I remember having these discussions when the West winner got the automatic #2 seed and the Zips (and everyone else had to fight through several games to get to the championship but with the Zips having a number one seed and only having to play two games to win it all they are going to get two pretty good teams no what. I have faith in them though, on a "neutral" court I believe they can take down anyone in the MAC. Bring 'em on! We have already beat everyone in the MAC at least once this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip It Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Right now Can't State, Eastern Michigan, Bowling Green, and Central Michigan would be on the Zips side of the bracket. Western Michigan, Buffalo, Ball State, Northern Illinois, and Miami would fall on Ohio's side. I prefer the group we have. Ball State lost big to OU, but they've been playing better lately, winning 6 out of the last 7. Buffalo has the ability to upset anybody. Even Western Michigan could surprise - they only lost by 2 to Ohio earlier in the season and were able to defeat both Can't State and Buffalo. On the flip side, Akron beat EMU by 8, BG by 13, and CMU by 12. Only Can't State poses a real threat. I'd rather have WMU instead of Can't State in the Semis, but I'd definitely prefer Buffalo to stay on the other side. To add dynamics, how about possibility of Can't, Buffalo, and Ball State all on Akron side? Ball State should beat NIU at home. BGSU would probably be favored to beat Buffalo at home. Toledo has good chance to win at EMU. If so, you have: #5 Ball State (8-8) #6 BGSU (7-9) Based on 2-1 head-to-head record vs. Buff/EMU #7 EMU (7-9) Based on 1-1 record vs. BG/Buff #8 Buffalo (7-9) Based on 1-2 record vs. BG/EMU Buffalo would be buried and need 3 wins to get to Semi's, but they'll have an easy home game (probably CMU), then have to beat Ball State, and then Can't. Fortunately, only one survives to play Akron, but the tournament is often a matter of who gets hot and there are a few players on those teams that can get hot. Ball State's won 6 of last 7 (make it 7 of 8 after NIU game) including beating WMU twice. Cant's won 6 of 7 and has likely 1st team MAC player Evans. And, of course, the Buffalo loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 In case you want the other possibilities for seeding, here is how it can play out: Akron, OU, WMU and Can't State are locked as the top four seeds in that order. Possible 8-8 teams ---------------------------------------------------------- If Can't State, Buffalo, EMU and Ball State all finish 8-8, among each other they would be Can't State 4-0, EMU 2-2, Buffalo and Ball State 1-3, so EMU would get the 5 seed, Buffalo the six based on their win against Ball State and Ball State the 7. Can't State, EMU andf Buffalo tie at 8-8, #5 EMU 5, #6 Buffalo, #7 Ball State (since this would mean a BGSU loss to Buffalo) Can't State, Ball State and Buffalo tie at 8-8, #5 Buffalo, #6 Ball State, #7 EMU EMU, Ball State and Buffalo tie at 8-8, they would go #5 EMU (2-1), #6 Buffalo (1-1), #7 Ball State (1-2) EMU and Buffalo at 8-8, #5 EMU, #6 Buffalo, #7 Ball State EMU and Ball State at 8-8, Ball State is #5 for beating the third seed, WMU twice, #6 EMU, #7 Buffalo (see below) Ball State and Buffalo at 8-8, #5 Buffalo beat #6 Ball State, #7 EMU Possible 7-9 teams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Buffalo, BGSU, EMU and Ball State all finish at 7-9, #5 BGSU (3-1), #6 EMU (2-2, , head to head win over Bufalo), #7 Buffalo (2-2), #8 Ball State (1-3) Buffalo, BGSU and EMU all finish 7-9; (#5 Ball State at 8-8) #6 BGSU (2-1), #7 EMU (1-1), #8 Buffalo (1-2) Buffalo, BGSU and Ball State tie: (#5 EMU at 8-8) #6 Buffalo (2-1, win over #1 seed Akron), #7 BGSU (2-1) and #8 seed Ball State (1-1) EMU and Ball State tie at 7-9, #5 Buffalo at 8-8, Ball State is #6 for beating the third seed, WMU twice, #7 EMU, #8 (BGSU finishing at 6-10) Buffalo and BGSU only tie, Buffalo is the 7 for the win over Akron, BGSU is the eight ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If BGSU loses to Buffalo they are the eight seed, period. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If CMU wins, they are the 9 seed If CMU loses and ties Miami and NIU, #9 NIU (2-1) gets seed nine for beating Can't, #10 is CMU (2-1), #11 Miami (0-2) If CMU loses and ties with NIU, #9 NIU gets seed nine for beating Can't, #10 is CMU, #11 Miami If CMU loses and ties with Miami, #9 is Miami for a head to head win, #10 is CMU, #11 NIU If Miami and NIU tie it will be #10 NIU for the head to head win and #11 Miami Toledo can only factor in as a tie breaker in the standings, the only teams they can tie are WMU and Can't and those two are already locked into their seeds. It doesn't appear that they have any effect on the rest of the field I think this is all correct but I'll see if I got it right after the final set of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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