plowerman78 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 just curiosity what is the average for bench press? and great to hear him do so well with those guys there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboze Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 just curiosity what is the average for bench press? and great to hear him do so well with those guys there The top guys lift 18-19 times. Average is around 14- 15... He's right there with them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 just curiosity what is the average for bench press? GMs and NBA Scouts don't pay too much attention to the bench press, except for when they have pre-conceived notions about a player being weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plowerman78 Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 which has been said before about Zeke, so I guess we can put that one to bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboze Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 GMs and NBA Scouts don't pay too much attention to the bench press, except for when they have pre-conceived notions about a player being weak. All of the players were tested at the workout. Its a normal part of the process. Nothing to do with a player and pre-conceived notions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromdaBurgh Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 You can add the Philadelphia 76 to the list....June 21. Lots of back to back workouts...but Zeke is both confident and ready!!!! #NBAFocused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 Great input from everyone. Mavs date corrected. Philadelphia 76ers added. I would think that NBA teams always pay attention to the bench press. Some guys who look strong may fall short on the weights, and some who appear weaker may surprise. Lots of comments on various draft sites from "experts" who've seen Zeke on TV and think he looks skinny and weak. The weights don't lie. Zeke has NBA strength. How to appropriately use that strength in the NBA can be learned. Dallas Mavericks May 31 Detroit Pistons June 2-3 Houston Rockets June 5 Phoenix Suns Friday, June 6 Portland Trail Blazers June 13-14 Los Angeles Lakers June 17 Chicago Bulls June 18 Philadelphia 76ers June 21 Indiana Pacers June 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 He's going to get drafted. No doubt in my mind. Wish the Cavs would work him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yazan07 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 So I was in DC last weekend with a couple other UA friends for the Timbers/DC United match (plenty of Akron there). While we were walking by the Lincoln Memorial on Saturday, all three of us in Akron gear, a guy came up to us (a college-aged kid, probably about 6'9" wearing basketball warm-ups and a pistons hat, so he I'm assuming he either plays somewhere or is just a basketball fan) and asked us "Hey do you guys think Zeke Marshall will get drafted??" We all immediately said we sure hoped so. He then said something like "that dude's a beast. I hear he's been working hard. I hope to see him get picked." Pretty cool that a random guy in DC not only knew about Zeke and Akron, but was interested in his draft stock. Just thought I'd pass that story along. I really wish I would have asked where the guy was from, and if he played anywhere. Oh well. I was also in DC with some friends that weekend! Went just for a visit. I wanted to go to that United-Timbers game but couldn't really persuade my group. How awful is Dc United this year? Just atrocious. Would've liked to have made it out though. Oh and go Zeke! I'm also pushing for the one more Zip in Portland thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromdaBurgh Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Add Minnesota Timberwolves - June 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendofzippy Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Mike & Mike talked a good bit this morning about the Heat and how they have no one to match up with Roy Hibbert. So even if the Heat advance, they'll be addressing this issue in the offseason. As Hibbert is obviously getting a lot of attention and most leagues tend to be copycat, perhaps big men will get more attention in the coming draft. So hopefully this link works, but it's a comparison of Roy and Zeke's senior seasons. I'd say Zeke matches up very well. Roy / Zeke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Mike & Mike talked a good bit this morning about the Heat and how they have no one to match up with Roy Hibbert. So even if the Heat advance, they'll be addressing this issue in the offseason. As Hibbert is obviously getting a lot of attention and most leagues tend to be copycat, perhaps big men will get more attention in the coming draft. So hopefully this link works, but it's a comparison of Roy and Zeke's senior seasons. I'd say Zeke matches up very well. Roy / Zeke It is a good comparison but against different competition. One was against Big East teams, the other against the MAC. So you don't know what it would look like if it was reversed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 @GameChngr44, Timberwolves added below. One question: Who gets all of Zeke's frequent flyer miles? @Legend Of Zippy, good comparison with Roy Hibbert. One thing about professional sports is that teams tend to have their draft influenced by what's working today. That is, if a team wins the NFL championship with a running game, there's more temptation for teams to go for running backs in the next draft to try to replicate the winning team formula. In the NBA, championship performance by a team with a dominating center tends to make teams more likely to draft big centers in the next draft. So Hibbert's success against the Heat is generally good for Zeke. @akronzips71, it's true that different SOS makes direct comparisons between two players' stats less accurate. That 2007-2008 Pitt team had an SOS of #36, while the Zips' SOS this past season was #135. Also, Hibbert played against larger, more talented opposing centers on a more regular basis. On the other hand, many of Zeke's best performances tended to be against the few teams the Zips played that had big, talented centers. Zeke seemed to have more trouble against smaller players who he likely would not face in the NBA. Zeke has more to prove out of college than Hibbert did, so it's good that so many NBA teams are giving Zeke a chance to show what he's got in private workouts. The important thing is to show that he's close to being NBA ready and has a big upside. Dallas Mavericks May 31 Detroit Pistons June 2-3 Houston Rockets June 5 Phoenix Suns Friday, June 6 Minnesota Timberwolves, June 12 Portland Trail Blazers June 13-14 Los Angeles Lakers June 17 Chicago Bulls June 18 Philadelphia 76ers June 21 Indiana Pacers June 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromdaBurgh Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 DIG...add Charlotte Bobcats June 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 That is, if a team wins the NFL championship Super Bowl with a running game, there's more temptation for teams to go for running backs in the next draft to try to replicate the winning team formula.Remind me again, when did that happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Zeke is Mr. Popularity. Will be interesting to see when word starts leaking out about how well he's doing in the workouts. Bobcats added below. Also, Zeke is ranked #48 of all the players in the draft in a Win Share Model calculation that's been good at predicting the performance of NBA players based on their college performance. Note that only 56 potential draftees have projected win shares. Players from #57 down are all rated as zero. In the Bust Or Star ranking on this site, Zeke is ranked #36 of all players in the draft with a 12% chance of being a starter and a 36% chance of being a bench player. Both of these suggest that Zeke is at least a solid second round draft choice. Link Dallas Mavericks May 31 Detroit Pistons June 2-3 Houston Rockets June 5 Phoenix Suns Friday, June 6 Minnesota Timberwolves June 12 Portland Trail Blazers June 13-14 Los Angeles Lakers June 17 Chicago Bulls June 18 Charlotte Bobcats June 19 Philadelphia 76ers June 21 Indiana Pacers June 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 @Dr Z, just a random example of trends I've noticed in many decades of following the NFL and NBA drafts, and not intended to start an OT football discussion in this basketball thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 There is no such trend in the NFL that pertains to running backs and Super Bowls and the following draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 There is no such trend in the NFL that pertains to running backs and Super Bowls and the following draft. The closest thing I can recall is when the Giants had Deve Megett as a do everything player and after that every team tried to get a Dave Megett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 The NFL part of this discussion now has its own thread right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromdaBurgh Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 The news keeps getting BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER! Keep thinking he won't get drafted! Can't wait to see the look on some peoples faces in about 3 weeks time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 @GameChngr44, it sounds as if you may have just heard something that you're not free to discuss with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromdaBurgh Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Lets just say that...the "buzz" is getting louder and louder about the 7 footer from UA, who didn't go to Portsmouth and wasn't invited to Chicago or Brooklyn but who has some MAJOR OFFENSE and is WAY STRONGER than PEOPLE thought! Nothing like shutting the mouths of the naysayers! Another GREAT workout in the books! Was told that he has the MOST WORKOUTS out of ALL OF THE DRAFT PICKS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Lets just say that...the "buzz" is getting louder and louder about the 7 footer from UA, who didn't go to Portsmouth and wasn't invited to Chicago or Brooklyn but who has some MAJOR OFFENSE and is WAY STRONGER than PEOPLE thought! Nothing like shutting the mouths of the naysayers! Another GREAT workout in the books! Was told that he has the MOST WORKOUTS out of ALL OF THE DRAFT PICKS!!!! It is Brooklyn's loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendofzippy Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 The news keeps getting BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER! Keep thinking he won't get drafted! Can't wait to see the look on some peoples faces in about 3 weeks time! I think the vast majority of Zips fans are hoping like hell that he gets drafted. We all want to continue to follow his career. But the NBA draft is just so maddening. Every year fans watch and scratch their heads over picks. We hear more about "upside" than we do actual production on the court. To me "upside" means, "this guy can't play basketball, but maybe someone can teach him." I'm still trying to recover from the Cavs drafting Christian Eyenga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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