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November 8th - current RPI's and conference tournaments


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Duquesne was #107..before today's Atlantic 10 semi against #32 Rhode Island

Duquesne just won 2-1

Gaucho Dan shows Rhode Island dropping to #39

 

St. Louis will play Duquesne in A10 final on Sunday

as long as St. Louis wins, the Atlantic 10 should be a 1 bid league

I do not see Rhode Island getting an at large bid....

 

I can't explain it.....but Akron has moved up from #25 late yesterday to #23....at 6:40 pm in Gaucho Dan current rpi

   creighton is now 24 and penn state is now 25

 

SBZIP fan...just saw your post......yep.....I wanted Rhode Island to lose and drop

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Kentucky is showing as 11 currently in RPI

Florida International is currently 17

 

FIU was top seed in conference usa as they beat Marshall 4-1 last weekend...

 

Kentucky just beat FIU 3-0 in semi

Kentucky will play Marshall vs. Florida Atlantic winner in night time semi

    If Marshall wins the semi, KY and Marshall for both locks for the NCAA

 

I don't think that anyone posted that #1 and #2...washington and oregon state played to 2-2 draw last night

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Marshall led FAU 15-6 in shots and 10-2 in corners

 

FAU won the scoreboard battle 3-1

 

FAU will play Kentucky for conference USA title and spot in NCAA tourney on Sunday 

 

FAU was 2-4-2 in regular season conference play

 

in the regular season, FAU lost 5-1 to Charlotte 

 

FAU beat Charlotte on PKs in conference quarterfinals 

FAU lost 3-0 to Marshall in regular season 

 

FAU took care of Marshall in semi

 

in regular season, FAU lost 3-0 to Kentucky 

 

 

 

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very few games today...involving zips opponents...or teams in the top 40 of RPI

1 pm....horizon league final - #107 Cleveland State vs. #92 Oakland

4 pm...last regular season Ivy league game for zip opponent Yale  ....Ivy League automatic qualifier Princeton (6-0-0 in league) vs. Yale 4-0-2 in league)

4 pm....Princeton has automatic Ivy league bid...Cornell is 4-2-0 in league as they have lost to Princeton and Yale...somehow...Cornell is in the mix for an at large bid as they are #29 in country....they play #181 Columbia today...Columbia is 1-10-4 overall and 0-4-2 in league...

   Cornell strength of schedule will be hurt today

7:05 Atlantic Sun final...#53 Lipscomb 11-3-2 vs. #36 Central Arkansas 11-5-0

10 pm....west coast conference has no tourney....#50 Santa Clara has already earned  automatic bid...with 5-0-1 conference record....they play #38 Loyola Marymount 12-4-1...4-2-0 in league....Loyola Marymount could move up a bit with a win

10 pm....Portland is also in west coast conference....they have highest RPI in league at #30 despite being 3-2-1 in league..they are 9-6-1 overall...they did beat UCLA early in the season and they crushed Northern Illinois 4-0 last week...Portland plays #182 San Francisco...San Fran is 2-12-1 overall and 0-5-1 in league....

 

as of right now....Akron is still #23 in RPI...numbers 23 to 26...are very close

21.  Maryland           .5853

22.  VA Tech              .5846

23.   Akron                  .5807

24.   Penn State          .5807

25.  Creighton              .5806

26.  UCLA                      .5799

27.  Villanova               .5767

28.   Northern Illinois   .5757

29.  Cornell                     .5736

30.  Portland                  .5733

31.  St. Johns                .5704

32.   GA State                .5673

 

 

you will remember that Northern Illinois was 39 at the start of the week and GA State was in the low 50's.   They have both gone up a lot due to semifinal win.  

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I had not looked at conference RPI rankings recently....MAC is pretty strong

of course, they were super strong last year....and the NCAA screwed West Virginia last year and gave Charlotte an at large bid (even though West Virginia had defeated conference USA champ Marshall...and WVU had also defeated Charlotte 3-0 in regular season

 

RankNCAA Division I Men's SoccerRPI

 

1Pac-12 Conference.5855

 

2Atlantic Coast Conference.5791

 

3Big East Conference.5594

 

4Mid-American Conference.5501

 

5Big Ten Conference.5455

 

6American Athletic Conference.5296

7Conference USA.5295

8Colonial Athletic Association.5252

9America East Conference.5003

10West Coast Conference.4985

11Atlantic 10 Conference.4953

12Ivy League.4944

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IMO, the Zips are a lock for a bid. Going strictly by RPI, the last-in team right now would be #38. And I believe there are now only 4 conferences (Missouri Valley, Atlantic 10, Colonial, Conf USA) in which a below 38 RPI team could still bump a team with a higher RPI than Akron. If all 4 have upset winners, the last-in team is #34. And Akron will end up in the mid-20s. So the committee would have to pull 10 or so teams with RPIs below #34 and put them in above #25ish Akron. And there just aren't ten teams with RPI below #34 that look better than Akron.

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2 hours ago, TennZip said:

talk about messing up a possible at large bid...

Cornell came into today with an RPI of 29

 

on their home field , they played 1-10-4 Columbia

 

1-1 tie....drops Cornell to #46 ...according to Gaucho Dan live RPI

 

Wow, I had no idea RPI could be so unstable this late in the season.

 

I have a Cornell connection in my family so I'm bummed ... 

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League champs.....and automatic qualifiers and today's finals

8 teams known as of this morning

15 finals today

 

PAC 12 league winner  - #2 Oregon State

Ivy League - #58 Princeton

West Coast Conference - #55 Santa Clara

 

League winners

Atlantic Sun - #39 Lipscomb  defeated #42 Central Arkansas

Big West - #86 Cal Santa Barbara def.  #128  Cal Irvine

Horizon - #85 Oakland def. #109 Cleveland State

Patriot - #81 Loyola Maryland def. #110 American

Summit - #78 Denver won a shoot out against #76 Oral Roberts

 

 

ACC final - 4) Duke vs. #11 Notre Dame

Atlantic 10 final   - #17 St. Louis vs. #84 Duquesne

Conference USA final - #9 Kentucky vs. #82 Florida Atlantic

Missouri Valley final - #14 Missouri State vs. #143 Evansville

WAC final - #13 Grand Canyon vs. #36 Seattle

American Athletic final - #6 Tulsa vs.#60 UCF

Big East final - #3 Georgetown vs. #15 Providence

Big Ten Final -  #12 Indiana vs. #25 Penn State

MAC final - #27 Northern Illinois vs. #34 Georgia State

Colonial final - #10 Hofstra vs. #44 Elon

Metro Atlantic final - #61 Marist vs. #121 Rider 

American East - #8 New Hampshire vs. #50 Vermont

Big South - #51 Campbell vs. #124 High Point

Southern conference final - #54 Belmont vs. #112 Mercer

Northeast Conference final - #92 LIU vs. #118 St. Francis Brooklyn

 

      I bold highlighted 7 leagues where an upset could vault a team into the tournament ....and reduce the number of at large teams below the zips 

I believe that the MAC final.....will be at 1 pm eastern time.   Every one will have different opinions.  I am strongly rooting for NIU to win the final.   IF GSU wins, I think that NIU will still get an at large bid....as they were regular season champs....and would have lost in the conference tournament finals.   As of this morning, West Virginia is 19 in RPI and Akron is 26.   If GSU wins and if NIU gets an at large bid, the MAC would need to have 4 teams in the tourney for both Akron and West Virginia to get in.  If GSU loses, I do not think that they will get in the tourney.

 

We have all seen in past years...how the committee loves the power 5 conferences

I am fully confident that the committee will give 7 at large bids to the ACC and 4 at large bids to the Big East

ACC - 1. Duke/Notre Dame loser

other 6 -5) Pitt ;  7) Clemson ;  20) N. Carolina  ; 22) VA Tech  ;   31) Louisville  ;  32) Wake Forest

Big East - Georgetown/Providence loser

other 3 -23) Creighton ;  #28 ) Villanova ; #29 St. Johns

 

   committee last year screwed west virginia and took Charlotte from Conference USA

hopefully, Kentucky can beat the upset kid...Florida Atlantic

if they do, I still think that the committee will give 3 at large bids to conference USA

16)  Marshall  ;   #18)  FIU  ; #33) Charlotte

 

    if the committee....shows their usual love for ACC, Big East and conference USA...that accounts for 14 of the 25 at large bids  (assumes Kentucky wins)

 

that leaves 11 bids

contenders for those 11 bids

PAC   12   - #2   Washington ;  #24  UCLA

Big Ten  -   Penn State/Indiana loser and #21  Maryland     ...will the power 5 loving committee show any love to #38 Michigan

MAC - GSU/NIU loser ; #19  WVA  ; #26 Akron

west coast conference - #30 Portland  ; #35 Loyola Marymount

 

if we exclude Michigan and worst case....there are 7 upsets....there are 9 good teams competing for 4 at large spots

     I feel good about zips chances....if there are no upsets...if there are 4 or 5 or 6  upsets, I just do not trust the NCAA committee

 

other teams ...that do not deserve bid....but a few years ago...the committee gave #44 NC State a bid...and screwed several teams in low 30's

#40 Rhode Island

#41 Northeastern

#42 Central Arkansas

#43 Cornell

#45 VCU

#46 Stanford

 

 

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2 hours ago, TennZip said:

 

other teams ...that do not deserve bid....but a few years ago...the committee gave #44 NC State a bid...and screwed several teams in low 30's

#40 Rhode Island

#41 Northeastern

#42 Central Arkansas

#43 Cornell

#45 VCU

#46 Stanford

 

 

Bless you Saint Zippus Tennesseeus on this Sacramental Decision Sunday for your devout reportage!

 

I bet if you cross-referenced those final 6 teams above with their SOSs, the committee could find some way to move the beloved Stanford Cardinal into shooting range of an NCAA pick.  Is Jeremy Gunn a committee member?  lol

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11 minutes ago, bigzipguy said:

On the Big 10 channel, Penn State goes up 1-0 against Indiana at just under 10' to go in first half. Game is at PSU.

Penn State win would help the zips and hurt Creighton.   Creighton's signature non league win is over Indiana.

Penn State winning the tourney...would mean that both the zips and West Virginia would have wins over ACC regular season champ Pitt and wins over regular season and tournament Big Ten champ Penn State.   That would be great for MAC teams.

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3 hours ago, TennZip said:

I am strongly rooting for NIU to win the final.   IF GSU wins, I think that NIU will still get an at large bid....as they were regular season champs....and would have lost in the conference tournament finals.   As of this morning, West Virginia is 19 in RPI and Akron is 26.   If GSU wins and if NIU gets an at large bid, the MAC would need to have 4 teams in the tourney for both Akron and West Virginia to get in.  If GSU loses, I do not think that they will get in the tourney.

 

I agree with all of this. Go NIU!

But: 1-0 GSt 15min in

Free stream here:

https://niuhuskies.com/watch/?Live=5814&type=Live

Looks cold and snowy. Most players wearing gloves.

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