Is anyone else sick and tired of...

[g-mann17]

All the negative butt monkeys that are posting after losses?Doesn't matter who the loss is too they fly on out and complain about the coaches, or Jacquemain or the play calling, or the refs.The problems we have, we have had all season. Brookhart is the greatest guy in the world when we steal a game from WMU. We play the same way against Temple and he's an idiot?No I don't think so. You are all malcontents that think the real world is one where we are supposed to win every game we go into. Is the offense bad? Yes. Blame Moorehead, blame Jacquemain. It couldn't be the fact that that 70% of the offense are sophomores.Is the defense bad? No it's struggling because the offense is so bad. Right now we are trying to rope a dope a team. We can't attack because we are too afraid of giving up a big play. The fact that you think the D is bad shows how little any of you actually understand this game. If you create more turnovers you are supposed to win. We create more turnovers. The offense just doesn't do anything.Stop all the negativity. Support the team. Support the staff. This is the MAC. Where even Can't State can contend (at least for a week or two)

[goodthts]

Sorry, been a fan since the early 90's, proud graduate of the school and this team is just horrible to watch. Sure, I support the school. Support the staff? For what? Until they put together a consistent product on the field I will state my displeasure over the current woe-ful state of Akron Football.BTW, who said Brookhart was brilliant in the WMU win? Zips got lucky. Now we need to get lucky several more times this year if we even wanna start thinking bowl games.True supporter but also a realist.

[akronad]

I have been a fan since the early 60's, so I've seen everything happen and develop with the team and the school. I will continue to cheer and support the Zips to the bitter end. However, JD is no different than any other coach in any other d1 program. The bottom line is "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR US LATELY"? In JD's case, nothing. Yes, the Zips, beat NC State last year. But what has happened this year? OH, we beat Can't (not a good team) & we got LUCKY, YES LUCKY at WMU.We can use all of the excuses in the universe, but nothing is being accomplished and I cannot stand mediocrity.Look what happened to the AD @ Nebraska. Yes, Nebraska is a much higher profile program than Akron, but more was expected and it is not happening, so someone had to go. Look for their coach to be fired at the end of this season as well.

[Valpo Zip]

I think everybody is tired of those who have no ambitions and enjoy the mediocre status of their team. Not only that, but also are cocky enough to come out and call others names.I would understand and respect someone who says: it was bad loss, the coaches did not do a great job but this is still our team and we should support them now and keep going to the games until the end of the season when we re-evaluate them. But for you to tell me that i should shut my mouth and never complain about anything is not helping at all

[Big Zip]

The thing that I'm sick and tired of are fans on this board who get mad at those of us that expect more. We've had this conversation many times over on this board, but it usually centers around why we as fans don't expect more from our athletic department. In the WMU post I pointed out why all of the accolades for Brookhart? The one accolade he deserved was his teams willingness to never say die. I'm not going to apologize for my expectations. I'm sick of it not being us year in and year out. A few years ago when the ball bounced our way four about four consecutive days and we were able to win the MAC East -- JDs team showed heart and a never say die attitude in winning the MAC Championship game. A lot of people got excited because of that, but since then we've regressed. JD may still prove to be a good coach in the next few years, but I've given him four years before passing any judgement and in year four I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed with the offense and the 3-3-5 is pathetic. We get the excuse for the 3-3-5 that they can't recruit enought DL to run anything else. If that were true the entire conference would be running the 3-3-5. A school like West Virginia that should be able to recruit DL by the buckets wouldn't be runnning either. I think he simply likes it and won't say it. It took him how many games this year to shelve Dennis Kennedy when it was obvioius he couldn't get out of his own way. I'm not sold on either QB right now, but I know for a fact the offense Jacq ran in HS was far more complicated than the offense they are running now and Jacq played an excellent WR his junior year so to say he isn't fast enough or he is the problem in this offense I'm not buying it. Not having Jacq or CJ at WR on this team in the slot makes me wonder what the coaches are thinking. Proud alum that is expecting more from his alma mater and sick of losing games we should win! I'll root for this team and argue with my friends about Akron, but don't bust my balls because I've taken off the rose colored glasses after four years. How about you join us here in reality!

[Buckzip]

I think everybody is tired of those who have no ambitions and enjoy the mediocre status of their team. Not only that, but also are cocky enough to come out and call others names.I would understand and respect someone who says: it was bad loss, the coaches did not do a great job but this is still our team and we should support them now and keep going to the games until the end of the season when we re-evaluate them. But for you to tell me that i should shut my mouth and never complain about anything is not helping at all

Bingo.....If you don't think this team is great, you are a Buttmonkey.If people don't want to discuss the bad along with the good, then stay away. You are too big of a homer.When the team starts going 9-3, 8-4 and beating teams they should beat on a regular basis, then you can get upset when fans come out of the woodwork to complain. However, to get upset with fans because they are they are sick of the same old BS year after year is crazy.Upsets happen. However, this is ridiculous. We lose games every year that we should win.When have we beaten anyone that we were large underdogs to? I think Marshall was the last time....Pretty sad. IMHO

[johnnyzip84]

I don't necessarily agree with the folks who are always down on Brookhart (not saying I am wholeheartedly backing him, either), but I ABSOLUTELY feel that they have every right to express themselves, whether anyone else sees it as negative or not, on this board. I mean, isn't that one of the main reasons for even having such a forum????

[g-mann17]

Ah see, look at all of you Butt Monkeys.You jump on me because I call you out for being negative after a loss to Temple. Temple who almost beat UConn who shelled us, Temple who almost beat BGSU.The conference is full of teams that can on any given saturday (or wednesday, or thursday) beat any other team. But we lose one MAC game and it's "off with his head" and every other negative comment one can come up with.I didn't say don't criticize, I never said be a bunch of "are team is the greatest no matter what you say" tards. No I said don't be negative about the season or a young team in a conference where anything can happen.If you read what I wrote I was critical of Moorehead. His play calling is the least inspired offense I have seen since the advent of the forward pass. Which I am beginning to think he happens to be unaware of the fact that it exists.But I am not throwing in the chips. I am not saying this team is horrible. This team is young. How much that plays into the play calling is not something anyone of us can determine.I said stop calling for JD's head. "What has he done for us lately?" He has us 3-4 2-1 in the MAC better then anyone could have expected. He has managed to qualify us for two Bowl games. Quit saying "if CJ7 was playing we'd be winning" would we? He certainly didn't do much to stake his claim. A leader does what is needed and sets an example. Showing up late and throwing a hissy fit because you were disciplined is not being a leader. We won't 3 years of CJ11, he will end up being a back up next year.Did I say stop giving your opinions? No, I said quit acting like losing to Temple is the end of the world. Stop the negativity. That's all I said. The forum was for the discussion of what direction should take, who is better at what position, who new recruits are. Not to be a bunch of whiney losers like those Can't State fans.

[Buckzip]

Ah see, look at all of you Butt Monkeys.You jump on me because I call you out for being negative after a loss to Temple. Temple who almost beat UConn who shelled us, Temple who almost beat BGSU.The conference is full of teams that can on any given saturday (or wednesday, or thursday) beat any other team. But we lose one MAC game and it's "off with his head" and every other negative comment one can come up with.I didn't say don't criticize, I never said be a bunch of "are team is the greatest no matter what you say" tards. No I said don't be negative about the season or a young team in a conference where anything can happen.If you read what I wrote I was critical of Moorehead. His play calling is the least inspired offense I have seen since the advent of the forward pass. Which I am beginning to think he happens to be unaware of the fact that it exists.But I am not throwing in the chips. I am not saying this team is horrible. This team is young. How much that plays into the play calling is not something anyone of us can determine.I said stop calling for JD's head. "What has he done for us lately?" He has us 3-4 2-1 in the MAC better then anyone could have expected. He has managed to qualify us for two Bowl games. Quit saying "if CJ7 was playing we'd be winning" would we? He certainly didn't do much to stake his claim. A leader does what is needed and sets an example. Showing up late and throwing a hissy fit because you were disciplined is not being a leader. We won't 3 years of CJ11, he will end up being a back up next year.Did I say stop giving your opinions? No, I said quit acting like losing to Temple is the end of the world. Stop the negativity. That's all I said. The forum was for the discussion of what direction should take, who is better at what position, who new recruits are. Not to be a bunch of whiney losers like those Can't State fans.

Almost beat is the greatest excuse in the history of sports.We lost to so and so who almost beat so and so who almost beat so and so, etc.... :mad_flame:Not calling for JD's head. However, this has gone on long enough. Things need to change.He is the coach. He recruits the players, he hires the coaches, he is the HEAD COACH. Everything falls on him.This is his team and his staff. Being close to a win isn't a win.

[3rd&twenty]

Almost beat is the greatest excuse in the history of sports.We lost to so and so who almost beat so and so who almost beat so and so, etc.... :mad_flame:Not calling for JD's head. However, this has gone on long enough. Things need to change.He is the coach. He recruits the players, he hires the coaches, he is the HEAD COACH. Everything falls on him.This is his team and his staff. Being close to a win isn't a win.

I would agree with your last paragraph, although I don't think I'm ready, as of now, to call for JD's head. HE is the head coach, and as such needs to hire the right people to lead this team. The 3rd and 2 that we didn't make was one BIG coaching mistake. When a couple of half-drunk 40 somethings sitting a few rows below the coaches box can see what the opposing coaches are doing and our coaches in the box can't, something's wrong. We ran right up the gut into a blitz. Why? Because we were trying to run the clock out. Temple knew that and played their defense accordingly. But our coaches obviously were either too stubborn or too smug to change.

[zipsmom]

Both sides of this thread have made some valid points. What I think is important to remember is that all competitors, whether members of the baseball team, football team, band etc. put in incredible time in practicing to become the best that they can be. The members of this football team are no different in that respect. Having attended several of the games--both home and away-- what I have not seen are individual players stepping up into leadership roles. Strong player leadership is needed on both sides of the ball. Peers can often motivate better than coaches. It appears from the roster that there are any number of large D-lineman listed which could be an incentive to get away from the 3-3-5.Bottom line--true fans are loyal through thick and thin. We have seen some thick and thin this season, but lets keep up the spirit that is so alive on this site. Our enthusiasm is vital to the success of sports at UA.On a different note--if we want to compete with the big guys we need to act like them. I can not understand why the band and cheerleaders and Zippy weren't at the U Conn game. If Zippy is in contention for Mascot of the Year, wasn't it odd that he was absent from a game which was televised on ESPN?

[Buckzip]

Almost beat is the greatest excuse in the history of sports.We lost to so and so who almost beat so and so who almost beat so and so, etc.... :mad_flame:Not calling for JD's head. However, this has gone on long enough. Things need to change.He is the coach. He recruits the players, he hires the coaches, he is the HEAD COACH. Everything falls on him.This is his team and his staff. Being close to a win isn't a win.

I would agree with your last paragraph, although I don't think I'm ready, as of now, to call for JD's head. HE is the head coach, and as such needs to hire the right people to lead this team. The 3rd and 2 that we didn't make was one BIG coaching mistake. When a couple of half-drunk 40 somethings sitting a few rows below the coaches box can see what the opposing coaches are doing and our coaches in the box can't, something's wrong. We ran right up the gut into a blitz. Why? Because we were trying to run the clock out. Temple knew that and played their defense accordingly. But our coaches obviously were either too stubborn or too smug to change.

I never called for JD's or any other coaches head. I said things need to change. That could mean players, philosophy or any number of things. I personally don't feel a coaching change will help. We need stability in this program.There have been quite a few highly regarded coaches that started out having ot rough and then righted the ship.I just thought that be year 4 we would be farther along than we are....

[ziptrumpet87]

I think JD has already acknowledged his recruiting mistakes and turned that around (hopefully). He also has mostly righted the special teams that were neglected last year. JD seems to be learning from his mistakes and I hope that trend continues. He has a few years left on his contract and we don't really have the $$ to buy it out at this point, but I think JD and the AD have the option to make staffing changes if needed easier than changing coaches.

[RACER]

the scary part is this team is two plays away from being 1-6.we beat Can't barley ,and wmu on the last play of the game.if Can't had more time they probably would have scored.wmu was gift from wmu coverage team.all the other losses we got beat pretty bad by osu,indi,and u conn.this team is 3-4 right now and not very good.maybe things will change with the week off.they need to regroup and buffalo is now a must win game.

[Dr Z]

Upsets happen. However, this is ridiculous. We lose games every year that we should win.When have we beaten anyone that we were large underdogs to? I think Marshall was the last time....Pretty sad. IMHO

Way back in October of 2006.

[Buckzip]

Upsets happen. However, this is ridiculous. We lose games every year that we should win.When have we beaten anyone that we were large underdogs to? I think Marshall was the last time....Pretty sad. IMHO

Way back in October of 2006.

What was NCSU record last year????Just because a team is in a BCS conference doesn't make them a good team...

[Dr Z]

You ask for the last big upset, I give it to you. That's all I know man.

[Buckzip]

You ask for the last big upset, I give it to you. That's all I know man.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[uafan]

I think JD has already acknowledged his recruiting mistakes and turned that around (hopefully). He also has mostly righted the special teams that were neglected last year. JD seems to be learning from his mistakes and I hope that trend continues. He has a few years left on his contract and we don't really have the $$ to buy it out at this point, but I think JD and the AD have the option to make staffing changes if needed easier than changing coaches.

How has he corrected his recruiting mistakes? Has he righted the special teams? Who was the special teams coach last year?ST coach has been JD since he got here. If correcting his mistakes means ST are doing better, well, except for punting, I'll gove you that. But how has he turned aroung his recruiting mistakes? How long are we supposed to let him learn from his mistakes? No, I'm not saying he should be fired, but demote him to what he already is, a special teams coach! And if the punting doesn't improve, then fire him!

[ziptrumpet87]

How has he corrected his recruiting mistakes? Has he righted the special teams? Who was the special teams coach last year?ST coach has been JD since he got here. If correcting his mistakes means ST are doing better, well, except for punting, I'll gove you that. But how has he turned aroung his recruiting mistakes? How long are we supposed to let him learn from his mistakes? No, I'm not saying he should be fired, but demote him to what he already is, a special teams coach! And if the punting doesn't improve, then fire him!

I said he MOSTLY has corrected special teams, and I do think punting has improved some (we don't get blocked punts like we used to).And we've heard that he is not taking as many chances on borderline athletes, so that's why I said he's corrected the recruiting. The results/proof of that won't be evident for a year or so though.

[ZachTheZip]

I said he MOSTLY has corrected special teams, and I do think punting has improved some (we don't get blocked punts like we used to).And we've heard that he is not taking as many chances on borderline athletes, so that's why I said he's corrected the recruiting. The results/proof of that won't be evident for a year or so though.

He is learning, and he's learning quicker than any other head coach I've seen at Akron. He knows what the problems are, and then fixes them. That's what happens when you hire a guy who has never been a head coach before. He was left with a lot of problems when he came here. I'd say he has at least made an attempt to tackle them one at a time, and not all at once. That's smart because he didn't get instantly overwhelmed. JD is here at least until his contract expires. Give him a chance. We have the best defense Akron has ever seen (although that wasn't all that difficult to accomplish), and there's more talent on this team than ever before, even without all the players that never made it to the field. We have seen improvement. UA's schedule is more competitive than it was under other coaches, and we've had the same records. That tells me that there has been improvement. You will always have losses and wins that should never have ended the way they did. We've gotten lucky more often than we havn't. There are still problems for JD to fix. He has a week and a half left to figure out how to fix the biggest ones and hide the smaller ones until he has a chance to get to them too. It's easier to coach a perennial winner because you don't have to change anything. When you have a school like Akron, whom I would consider a "project with potential", it's a lot tougher because you have to identify problems, figure out how to fix them, and change things that people don't want you to. If we don't see a marked improvement again next year, then I will start to doubt him a little more. For now, he's done all that I could ask of him to do with what he has to work with.

[RACER]

all i know is we get beat by a temple team with a new coach.buffalo now seems to be ahead of us to.we are now behind teams that we use to beat all the time.we are in the fourth year how long do you want to give this guy.there is no reason for this team to finish .500 in one of the worst conferences in football.if jd cannot do at least that then we have real problems.i don't think most fans expect to win every game.to lose to temple though at home is terrible.

[akronad]

Uakronkid: I can't honestly believe that you think the defense is that good.Thru 7 games the defense has given up 201 pts. (29 ppg) and 2789 yds. (413 yds per game).the last 3 games the defense has given up 106 pts. (35 ppg) and 1324 yards (441 yds. per game) and we let Temple score 3 4th quarter TD's.

WHAT DEFENSE!

[ZachTheZip]

Uakronkid: I can't honestly believe that you think the defense is that good.Thru 7 games the defense has given up 201 pts. (29 ppg) and 2789 yds. (413 yds per game).the last 3 games the defense has given up 106 pts. (35 ppg) and 1324 yards (441 yds. per game) and we let Temple score 3 4th quarter TD's.

WHAT DEFENSE!

I didn't say it was good, I said it was better than we've seen on past teams. This defense gives us a chance to win. Past defenses would allow just enough points to make sure the offense couldn't catch up. This time, it's out offense who isn't scoring enough points, not our defense who is allowing more points than the offense can handle. The D gets tired late and allows a lot of second half points because the O isn't productive and they get worn down.

[Lee Adams]

the program is in chaos 4 years in to Brokenhart's regime...he has let the QB situation fester to the point that CJ doesn't even stay with the coaches during the game...either he plays or he is gone...thats the coach not handling HIS job...making decisions to give the team the best opportunity to win...its obvious that at least some of his staff are not capable at the D-I level...lets look at a head coach with HEAD coaching experience...Lou Tepper over at Indiana Univ of Pennsylvania was at Illinois(thats a graveyard), he has been very successful at IUP and he recruits the same areas,Westeren Penna, N.E. Ohio etc as the MAC schools...lets get someone in here with head coaching experience..