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I do not post on this site often anymore concerning football because I observe a lot of the same stuff is posted season, after season, after season. And,in some cases when people post something that someone else dislikes they get 'attacked' or are completely ignored by the other side.(Although that does not seem quite as bad as it used to be.) Anyway,it might do us well to look back further than the last 7 or 8 years to get a perspective on where this program has been and whether or not it is advisable to continue in the current direction. When was the last time the program had several 'successful' seasons in a row? Have to go back to like 2003 2004,2005 I think? How did that happen? Two different coaches yet some winning and a MAC championship. Some damn good talent also. Look at the guys from that era who made it to the NFL and were at least somewhat successful. What has happened since? What happened to those coaches? And why has a coach with even Bowden's perceived stature not YET been able to get the program to win consistently? Maybe it starts this season? Maybe not. I tend to look at what I have seen over time to evaluate what might happen in the future. It doesn't matter if the coach is Bowden or someone else. Its not a personal or personality issue its a results issue. Its about the entire program. This season? There will have to be a lot of holes filled and questions answered for this one to be successful. Hopefully, it happens. One thing,if Bowden's contract ends after the 2018 season as someone mentioned' if this season doesn't go well will he get an extension? Most coaches don't want to be 'lameducks'. It makes recruiting good athletes reeeeeeal difficult. Buy those season tix!

Natson was by far the best offensive player last season. He is much more versatile and more polished as a receiver than Lane. Obviously,Natson will be a special teams guy if he sticks. Good for him. He has guts.

Again, you are comparing numbers that don't matter. There are 10 FBS conferences and 32 D-1 basketball conferences. Using that criteria, you could certainly make the argument that MAC basketball is in a stronger position to MAC football. We understand that you are a big critic of the basketball scheduling under Dambrot but the arguments you are using do not hold water.

Hopefully Groce can deliver a few NCAA Tourney wins to help pay for the tragic joke that is Akron Football. Should have built a new college basketball arena and a high school football field rather than building that new collegiate football stadium while maintaining a high school gymnasium.