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So, you're saying the CF attitude is spouse-enhanced? I don't know about enhanced, but reinforced is a better word. Her opinions of the MAC are similar to mine. She went to Miami for her undergrad and UofA for MBA so she has seen the MAC from two different views. She has always worked and has held very good job so she looks at things from a pure business standpoint. I own my own business, but she is a better business person than I am. I'd never tell her, but she is much smarter.When I first started to have doubts about Frye, I didn't say a word to anyone. Shortly after that, my wife would make comments like, "If this guy is so good, how come he hasn't won many games in the MAC?" or "This league is terrible. He should have more wins against it." or "Any QB that is worth anything in the MAC wins a championship regardless of what is around him."If anyone remembers, my wife is the one who said after the UofA vs. Miami weeknight game a couple years ago that ended in a final score of something like 3-0, "Being commissioner of the MAC would be like being VP of Marketing for Dollar General. You could convince someone to come to your store once, but once they saw the crap you were selling they wouldn't come back." It's the perfect analogy for how hard the MAC is to sell and why people don't go to MAC games. It doesn't take a football expert to see the MAC is selling crap. I wish I was smart enough to come up with the Dollar General comment.I wish you were smart too.And it sure is hard for Dollar General to keep customers. We'll see where people shop once the economy turns around Einstein. Junk stores always do well when the economy isn't. People hold their noses when they walk through the doors of Dollar General like the do when they walk through the doors of a MAC stadium.You wish your posts were as interesting and as smart as mine. Stay in the back of the bus where you belong. Better yet, cry to the moderators for another sign....sign bitch. Now go back to high school debate club.Did I strike a nerve?Poor, poor GP1.Not at all. See g-spot17, I own you. You have become obsessed with what I post on this board and you try to insult someone who can't be insulted. I can manipulate you to do just about anything I want. Many have tested me before and I'm sure more will in the future. You're in good company because many more than just you have cried to the moderators about my posts. I'm the best poster on this board because I actually have interesting and original thoughts about the Zips, the MAC, sports and society in general. You on the other hand, you probably only have sex in one position because you are so uncreative.... if you can even get it up.

So, you're saying the CF attitude is spouse-enhanced? I don't know about enhanced, but reinforced is a better word. Her opinions of the MAC are similar to mine. She went to Miami for her undergrad and UofA for MBA so she has seen the MAC from two different views. She has always worked and has held very good job so she looks at things from a pure business standpoint. I own my own business, but she is a better business person than I am. I'd never tell her, but she is much smarter.When I first started to have doubts about Frye, I didn't say a word to anyone. Shortly after that, my wife would make comments like, "If this guy is so good, how come he hasn't won many games in the MAC?" or "This league is terrible. He should have more wins against it." or "Any QB that is worth anything in the MAC wins a championship regardless of what is around him."If anyone remembers, my wife is the one who said after the UofA vs. Miami weeknight game a couple years ago that ended in a final score of something like 3-0, "Being commissioner of the MAC would be like being VP of Marketing for Dollar General. You could convince someone to come to your store once, but once they saw the crap you were selling they wouldn't come back." It's the perfect analogy for how hard the MAC is to sell and why people don't go to MAC games. It doesn't take a football expert to see the MAC is selling crap. I wish I was smart enough to come up with the Dollar General comment.I wish you were smart too.And it sure is hard for Dollar General to keep customers. We'll see where people shop once the economy turns around Einstein. Junk stores always do well when the economy isn't. People hold their noses when they walk through the doors of Dollar General like the do when they walk through the doors of a MAC stadium.You wish your posts were as interesting and as smart as mine. Stay in the back of the bus where you belong. Better yet, cry to the moderators for another sign....sign bitch. Now go back to high school debate club.

So, you're saying the CF attitude is spouse-enhanced? I don't know about enhanced, but reinforced is a better word. Her opinions of the MAC are similar to mine. She went to Miami for her undergrad and UofA for MBA so she has seen the MAC from two different views. She has always worked and has held very good job so she looks at things from a pure business standpoint. I own my own business, but she is a better business person than I am. I'd never tell her, but she is much smarter.When I first started to have doubts about Frye, I didn't say a word to anyone. Shortly after that, my wife would make comments like, "If this guy is so good, how come he hasn't won many games in the MAC?" or "This league is terrible. He should have more wins against it." or "Any QB that is worth anything in the MAC wins a championship regardless of what is around him."If anyone remembers, my wife is the one who said after the UofA vs. Miami weeknight game a couple years ago that ended in a final score of something like 3-0, "Being commissioner of the MAC would be like being VP of Marketing for Dollar General. You could convince someone to come to your store once, but once they saw the crap you were selling they wouldn't come back." It's the perfect analogy for how hard the MAC is to sell and why people don't go to MAC games. It doesn't take a football expert to see the MAC is selling crap. I wish I was smart enough to come up with the Dollar General comment.

You guys are going to laugh, but I still have a Frye for Heisman button on my frig...... My wife makes fun of me periodically for still having it.

Profootballtalk.com is reporting Frye is starting this Sunday. Oakland has nothing to play for and Denver is a team in desperate need for a victory. Oakland is in one of the worst positions an NFL team can be in as they are also playing on the road. I told you guys, getting into a game is actually the worst thing that could happen to Charlie and now that has come true.

I hope you are wrong about Missouri. Missouri sided with the south in the Civil War and their troops engaged in some of the most despicable acts of violence in the history of warfare. They were an uncivilized, backward people then and they still are today as their ancestors remain in the genes of modern day Missourians. A northern conference should turn their backs on such a lowly people and say NO to Missouri.I say good day!

How does the addition of UofA make the Big East a better conference?

If there is any doubt that Frye can stay in the NFL for five more years, ESPN is reporting the Raiders just picked up JP Losman off of the scrap heap. A guy who has at least started has some value to a team. I told you guys, there are 76 guys playing QB in the NFL who are absolutely ripping off their owners each Monday when they get their pay check.

Actually, the joke was on Pawlus. He was a slow footed QB who went to the wrong school. Holtz liked to run the option at key moments and a QB like Rice was much better suited for his offense than Pawlus. Has Pawlus gone to a even a BC or PSU, he would have been better off. He also played some in the NFL if I remember correctly.

That guy is a hack. I saw Frye play in college and it was enough for me.

If the BE would never take Temple back (never say never), wouldn't it make sense for the ACC to go after Temple? They already stretch as far as Boston and Maryland is not far away. Temple is a basketball school first, but it also plays in an NFL stadium. In addition, Temple is in an extremely large media market stretching from C. PA through NJ.Temple didn't leave the Big East. They got kicked out. Temple will not be back in the Big East, in the next 15 years.Never say never. If they were desperate enough they would. Self preservation makes people do things they might not normally do.

If the BE would never take Temple back (never say never), wouldn't it make sense for the ACC to go after Temple? They already stretch as far as Boston and Maryland is not far away. Temple is a basketball school first, but it also plays in an NFL stadium. In addition, Temple is in an extremely large media market stretching from C. PA through NJ.

Charles Barkley is not the best guy to quote when trying to make an arguementCareful, Charlie just may end up on your team next year.Those quotes are great!!!!!If Charlie ends up with my team, I'll throw myself off of a bridge. There is enough losing going on with those guys.

Huggy was ahead of his time. He is exactly what college sports are and what they have always been. He had the balls to say what everyone else was thinking. It's about winning today. It was about winning in the 1990s. It was about winning in the 1950s. It always has been and always will be. Coaches are brought to schools to win. Alumni give money because the school is winning. Coaches are fired because they don't win. Athletic Directors are fired because their teams don't win. Alumni stop giving money because the team is not winning and are willing to turn their backs to bad behavior if the team is winning.I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it just is what it is.

Interesting. This is a huge story and there has not been much news about it until this story.

Absolutely. I've never said I wanted Frye to fail, I just knew he would. I also want him to stay in the NFL for as long as possible and I think with the lack of QB talent in the NFL, he will be for at least a few more years.My expectations are he will continue to be a terrible NFL qb if he actually gets into games. I hope he does rise above those expectations to just plain bad.The best thing for Charlie right now is to stay on the bench. If he gets into games, it could reinforce to many in the NFL that he doesn't have what it takes. If he stays on the bench, a lot of coaches would look at him and say, "I know the guy doesn't have much, but if we keep him on the team he could be a good #3. His experience could come in handy at various times."What would help Charlie right now is to get with a good team for one or two years as a back-up. He has gone from Cleveland to the Seahawks to Oakland. Not the best organizations in the NFL. I'd like to see Charlie get on with a team like New England or San Diego so he can see what successful teams do and then see if he could stretch his career out with another team as a back-up (it would also make him some playoff money, but that's another topic). Although, sitting behind Rivers or Brady wouldn't be that bad of a job. Hell, San Diego is the most beautiful city in the US....I'd sit the bench there for half the price of Frye.Remember, most teams have three QBs. There are 32 teams. There are 96 QB getting paid. Only about 20 (and that is on the high end) are worth a crap. That means there are 76 guys getting paid a heck of a lot of money for not being very good at what they do for a living. Frye can certainly be one of those 76. It reminds me of what I heard Charles Barkley say one time, "Half the players in the NBA today couldn't played when I played. They don't know how to play basketball." I think of that saying when I think of NFL QBs. NFL qbs are bad and getting worse by the year.

The coach for Oakland said he is going to sit down and think about his options and then decide. I think what is being left out is what he does after thinking about his options and making a decision which is probably weeping.The Great GP1 has been right about Frye since his senior year and continues to be right. With that said, in a league where half of the starting QBs would have been laughed out of the league 15 years ago I believe Charlie still has his place. I also don't think this will be his last year in the league. Charlie has at least started games and there is some value in that.

I like running. I like moving the chains with anyone who can do so. All of this sets up big plays for WRs and I LOVE big plays that score TDs. We need some deep threats next year or we will have the same offense we did this season.

There is actually no evidence that the people of Akron will pay to do much more than sit in a new stadium. That won't last for long. There is no evidence they will pay to see a team win because that hasn't happened. Let's see if it works.

How many on this board know that when a MAC schools makes their bowl game, they actually lose money?The Motor City Bowl pays $750,000. Over one half of that has to be given back to the bowl as a conference tie-in. The other half consists of a lump number of tickets given to the school valued at the remaining value after the buy-in. Face value of MCB tickets is pretty high. The school can sell the tickets at whatever price they wish. They couldn't sell all of the tickets at face value so they sell them at a deflated price. I'd bet UofA actually lost money in our last trip to the MCB and we had a GREAT turnout.

You should have ended the sentence there. If we crowds show because of winning, let's win as much as possible.I don't see a problem with an OOC schedule that might look like this:1. Indiana State at home2. EKU at home3. Bottom feeder CUSA on the road and then at home next year.4. Bottom feeder Sun Belt at home and then on the road next year.That's one extra home game and two extra wins. How is that negative?We can't do anything about the MAC schedule, so let's not shoot ourselves in the foot with the OOC schedule.

Now you're talking! However, we need to stay in the MAC so unless we can get the rest of the league to follow, we need to stay in the worst D-1A conference.Quite frankly, I could care less if it looks "classy" to the folks at Cincinnati. I realize the obsession on this board with bowing to MT and UAM, but I could care less what anyone thinks of us...including them. You guys can set up a time to go slobber kisses all over each other in a season other than football. It's time for this AD to make some difficult decisions that might upset some people outside of UofA. I don't care if it upsets future job networking opportunities for TW, it needs to be done. The cycle of losing needs to stop next year, not two years from now. If this AD can't make a difficult decision other than throwing an innocent assistant football coach under the bus, then we have hired just another paper pusher in an industry full of paper pushers.Next year, the Zips have three guaranteed l's to KY (I believe), Syracuse and Indiana. I don't see how starting out the year with three guaranteed l's is good for the program. Syracuse will be better next year than this year because they couldn't get any worse. Indiana is a BCS program and though they are bad, they can field better talent than us and will beat us in Indiana. KY is SEC and we aren't...enough said. Losing to these schools gets us no closer to a bowl game than a second I-AA team. At least with the I-AA team we get to see the Zips win. If playing two MAC schools a year is OK for a BCS team, why is it wrong for a MAC team to play two I-AA teams? Is a home game in September better than a road game in September? I just don't think the one win against a BCS team every four years is worth the overall cost to the program.

No he doesn't.You play one, 1-AA school per season. That's it.If TW schedules two 1-AA schools he can have my season tickets. If I want to watch multiple 1-AA games, I'll go to a 1-AA stadium like Youngstown.Beyond that, only one 1-AA win counts towards bowl eligibility.Next season we play BCS Syracuse, Indiana and Cincinnati(?).So we should back out of our contracted game with Indiana? A bottom-rung Big 10 team? No way.Back out of our home game with Syracuse? Great idea....Stiff Cincinnati after they honored their game in Akron? That would be a classy move..."You want it to be one way....but it's the other."Enjoy the losing. Take a recliner to the game, there will be plenty of room. This team needs to get some wins under its belt and then we can beef up the schedule.

I agree. In championship games, they should play until someone scores. There just seems to be something wrong with a PK ending.Soccer will never be widely accepted in the United States. It just isn't an exciting sport to watch. Baseball has a more exciting pace. Great season Zips! The future looks good!

Find out if the kid wants to win or is just attracted to a new stadium and all the fluff associated with that. If so, we shouldn't be interested. If everyone else is selling stadiums and facilities, do something different. Sell a commitment to winning. A kid who buys winning wants to win. A kid who buys a new stadium wants the new stadium. Start a culture of winning.I too believe that a player's will to win can close a talent gap.I agree. Here is how I see it. I have made no bones about my belief we have enough talent on the team to win next year. A winning attitude in addition to talent makes for a very good team.I once worked as a sales manager for a Berkshire Hathaway company and we brought in a new Division Manager who wanted to do things differently. He was a tough guy who told all of us what he wanted to do and said we needed to "change the people or change the people". The sales force we had was good, but lazy and set in their ways because they were frankly older. Heck, I was 38 and the youngest of all the other five managers. The guy manager closest in age was 58. The seven sales reps who reported to me were all older than I was. Believe me, when they heard about what he said, they changed quickly. Only a few had to be shown the door and one of them was a fellow manager. People can change with the right leadership. The Zips can win next year.