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Your plan worked for years in basketball at Cincinnati, but they ended up firing Huggins anyway.Coaches are hired to get fired. Eventually, Huggins would have been fired for some reason or another.

It works in the SEC and it worked in The Longest Yard.

Excellent idea for lunch Saturday! If you go, hit the fish market and get the fried flounder. Flounder is very popular in the Carolinas and they do a good job of frying it here. I take customers here all the time...the locals love it.

Aren't they always the same coach and the circumstances around them change?The guy that just got fired from Colorado was considered brilliant when he was at Boise State. Is he all of the sudden a bad coach or did he go to a school that was struggling (on and off the field) and was asking their coach to both recruit choir boys and win? Now he is finding out that a team full of choir boys and winning don't go together. My guess is five years from now the graduation rate at Colorado will be lower than what it is this year because alumni care more about winning than graduation rates. I'm actually of the opinion that most coaches are very good at what they do and are at least smart at the Xs and Os of football. JD understood the offense and defense he was putting on the field, but the problem was the offense and defensive strategies were destined for failure.I guess to follow your logic to it's extreme we would conclude. Almost all coaches eventually get fired. Since all coaches get fired, they all have to be bad coaches. Hence, there are no good coaches. I just don't buy that. I think the real mistake colleges make is they are always looking to make a splash instead of looking to win. The Zips need to find a winner.

I'm not sure what the definition of success is and I'm not sure of the answers to the questions below.Was Nutt successful at Arkansas before Mississippi? He did have some good years there I believe. Was Newheisel (sp?) successful at Washington before UCLA? Did he have some winning seasons at Colorado? Was he fired at any of them?I think the point is this. Coaches are hired to get fired. Just because a guy gets fired at a BCS school may not mean the guy is a bad coach. When a coach takes over a program, the previous coach has probably been fired (especially at the BCS level) so he is not walking into the best of circumstances. Turning around a loser at the BCS level is much more difficult than turning around a loser at the MAC level because it takes a lot of really good players to win at the BCS level. A few good players can get you over the hump in the MAC.Rodriguez is going to get fired at Michigan after next year. Does that mean he was actually a bad coach at WVU?Bobby Bowden basically was fired from Florida State. Does that make him a bad coach? He will be in the Hall of Fame some day.Lou Holtz was fired from South Carolina. Was he a bad coach? He won at Arkansas.... He also won at South Carolina...... He won a National Championship at Notre Dame.Dennis Erickson will get fired from ASU before too long. Was he a bad coach at Miami?

Places to go:BBQ is good, but there are a thousand good BBQ places in Raleigh. The Pit is just one of them.The 42nd Street Oyster Bar is great. Good sea food and live music at night. This is my #1 pick for anyone going looking for something to do at night. Below the OB, across the RR tracks is an Italian place that is great. Sunday for brunch ask someone how to get to NOFO for brunch. Burgers....Ted's Montana Grille.Carolina Brew House is a good sports bar.The bars around NC State are dumps. Unless you are in college, stay away. If you are in college, go find a Carolina girl and report back to this board on Monday. Saturday, drive to Chapel Hill and walk Franklin Street. Walk the UNC campus...it is an amazing place.See if the Hurricanes are playing Saturday. If they are, go. It is a great place to see an NHL game.If you feel like a drive on Saturday, go to Wilmington and walk the beaches or visit the downtown.

Please stop making sense......

Or maybe he made the mistake of saying exactly what he is planning to do.....It makes absolutely no sense for a non-qualifier attend Akron, then transfer. No one does that in Division 1 college football. Anywhere.I agree. It makes no sense, but who says a high school kid with a sub-par intellect has to make sense? I have a feeling the Zips should take a pass on this kid. Something doesn't seem right.

Temple can beat Army. And Marshall might just be bad enough to lose to OU.I agree...the MAC just might get a win this bowl season.Army still has to get past Navy this weekend and I don't see that happening. Temple will not beat a PAC 10 team.Marshall is bad, but I don't know if they are OU type bad.Keep your fingers crossed. Let's keep the embarrassment to a minimum. When the conference finally comes to it's senses and drops down to I-AA, we can talk about MAC teams in a national championship hunt instead of how foolish we will look in post season play.

Or maybe he made the mistake of saying exactly what he is planning to do.....

If enough of you want me to, I'll put together a things to do in Raleigh list. Don't want to do it though if not enough people care or aren't going to the game.

With a little luck, I could see the MAC going 1-4 this bowl season.

Great post.There's probably an O Lineman or two there .. but it's pretty middle / lower Big Ten at this point.I beg to differ. ND has had recruiting classes ranked 18th, 21st, 2nd, and 8th in the nation in the past 4 years. Kids want to play there. The reason the players aren't NFL caliber is the coaching while they are at ND.Other than Tate, name them.

Thanks!If anyone is wondering, southerners say Cary stands for....ContainmentArea forRelocated YankeesYou won't see a single native southerner there.

This is a general question for everyone. Did anyone watch the SEC Championship game, Big 12 Championship game or even a guy like CJ Spiller from Clemson yesterday? You would see one NFL player after another on those teams. Do you see that level of talent with ND? Maybe Golden Tate, but that's the end of it.

To play Devil's Advocate, Brian Kelly certainly made the jump from D-II to the big time. Just look at how Cincy played today.Personally, I think that Akron needs to be very careful with this move. There are a lot of good things going for the Zips right now. A bad hire here could put UA back for years. My case in point, Notre Dame.Kelly was in a situation at GVS where he had to manage scholarships and go get talent. Kehres just shows up for work and talent falls in his lap.Akron needs to hire a good coach because they need to win. Akron can win in the MAC next year. Notre Dame isn't losing because they haven't hired the right coaches. ND loses because they put so many barriers up between them and winning that they don't win. ND is just another midwest school that kids no longer want to go to. Look at the best teams in college football, they are all in warm weather states. Save me the Cincy argument, they would not win another BCS conference other than the BE. ND is a relic of the past and unless it changes it will continue to be that forever.Dumbest comment i have ever heard anyone make. Notre Dame could have won 10 games easily this year with a break here and there. Florida got lucky twice this year. Alabama got lucky twice this year. Texas was beat three times. A great coach makes a difference in the tough games. Notre Dame will hire a great college coach., and if not they will still have the highest graduation rate and kids will be lined up to play there. As far as Cincy, you must be a closet OSU fan who can't stand that you are not the best college team in ohio.Thank you for the view from the 1950s.Notre Dame could have also lost 8 games. Teams make their own breaks and ND doesn't have the talent to make their breaks. At the end of the day, teams win or lose. They went 6-6 against the easiest schedule they have produced in decades. The talent does not exist at ND to win games or they would have won more against the likes of Michigan (sub-.550 record), Navy, Pitt (third place BE), Stanford (4th place PAC 10?) and the rest of the garbage they schedule. ND doesn't win for a lot of reasons and I think they are the same reasons Big Ten teams aren't competitive any longer. Talent players just don't want to play in rain and snow. ND also misses out on a lot of talented players because they just can't get through the doors. One actually has to be smart to go to ND. Someone could be borderline retarded and get into an SEC school of they are a good enough football player. I don't think the ND alumni is looking at graduation rates right now. If they were, Mr. Personality would still be the coach. ND wants wins and I don't blame them. They pour millions into that program every year and 6-6 sure wouldn't sit well if I was a graduate. The alumni gives money when they win, not for graduation rates.I could care less about Cincy or tOSU. Again, thank you for the view from the 1950s. ND has not been relevent in college football for many years and will continue to be so in the future. It is a great place to go break the bank if you are a coach, but not a place to go to win big games.

I just saw an interesting headline about Tebow. It sort of plays into his crying on the sidelines after losing. "Tebow turns whine into water."Great player, but I've had enough......Well one thing in Tim's favor. I can absolutely guarantee you that you will never hear that he has been cheating on his wife with another woman.The way that offensive lineman was running his fingers through his hair while he was crying makes me think you may be right. He may never have a wife to cheat on.Seriously, never say never. Just ask Tiger.

I just saw an interesting headline about Tebow. It sort of plays into his crying on the sidelines after losing. "Tebow turns whine into water."Great player, but I've had enough......Well one thing in Tim's favor. I can absolutely guarantee you that you will never hear that he has been cheating on his wife with another woman.The way that offensive lineman was running his fingers through his hair while he was crying makes me think you may be right. He may never have a wife to cheat on.Seriously, never say never. Just ask Tiger.

Could someone please help with physical location for the games this coming weekend? Need it for the GPS. NC State is in Raleigh, not Cary so I'm a little thrown by it.

Amazing. This kid is too stupid to go to college. Good luck in I-AA.

To play Devil's Advocate, Brian Kelly certainly made the jump from D-II to the big time. Just look at how Cincy played today.Personally, I think that Akron needs to be very careful with this move. There are a lot of good things going for the Zips right now. A bad hire here could put UA back for years. My case in point, Notre Dame.Kelly was in a situation at GVS where he had to manage scholarships and go get talent. Kehres just shows up for work and talent falls in his lap.Akron needs to hire a good coach because they need to win. Akron can win in the MAC next year. Notre Dame isn't losing because they haven't hired the right coaches. ND loses because they put so many barriers up between them and winning that they don't win. ND is just another midwest school that kids no longer want to go to. Look at the best teams in college football, they are all in warm weather states. Save me the Cincy argument, they would not win another BCS conference other than the BE. ND is a relic of the past and unless it changes it will continue to be that forever.

I just saw an interesting headline about Tebow. It sort of plays into his crying on the sidelines after losing. "Tebow turns whine into water."Great player, but I've had enough......

How about the MAC Championship? How about beating BCS school Syracuse? How about beating Top 25 Marshall?.......As far as what fans at a HS football game are saying, I could care less. What else do people from Youngstown have to talk about....the weather.....the great economy...the booming downtown...the beautiful landscaping?After yesterday, Youngstown is poised to hold the title of being the best high school football area in Ohio. Ursuline, my Alma mater, and Mooney destroyed their opponents yesterday.Weather is same as Akron.Economy is very similar to Akron.Downtown is a hell of a lot nicer than you think. Our 6,000 seat arena has made downtown the entertainment destination in the Valley. Thank You Traficant lol!Indians06 is telling it like it is.Youngstown is a dump.

Most of the posters on this board. This board is a strange mix of students and older guys who wish the world was like a Leave It To Beaver episode only with a more "suburban" tilt.

Open discussion here. Any thoughts on the game last night?Here are a couple.First, Congratulations to CMU for their third Championship in four years. Dan L. is the best QB in the MAC since Roethlisberger and that team would be nowhere without him. The accomplishments speak volumes. The guy is a winner. I really don't know what else there is to say unless Captain Kangaroo wants to add anything.Second, I am both frustrated about the Zips and bullish about the future. We have more talent than OU and we can't beat them. I just have to shake my head in disgust. On the bullish side, I remain encouraged about the near future of the Zips. This league is horrible and with the right coach we can get it turned around next year. With the right coach, we will compete for a chance to play in the MAC Championship.Third, thanks to ESPN for only showing the CMU side and I think everyone knows what I mean. They had a nice turnout. Deer hunting season must be over in Michigan to get that many people to a game on Friday night.Fourth, I would like to tell the CMU coach....GET THE HELL OUT NOW. Run from the MAC as fast as you can. Take almost anything at another D-1A conference and save yourself.