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I don't like bringing in guys from Massillon. All of the players I knew had big heads and believed they should be playing somewhere other than Akron. They are never as good as they think they are. This guy would be another one of them. We don't need guys who believe their best days are/will ever be behind them.

I think it is a fair discussion to have. Talent is an endless discussion on the football thread. My personal opinion is KD does a good job coaching a group of players with limited athletic ability for the level of basketball they play. 20 wins a year is pretty darn good....the athletic ability is not. Granted, a lot of those wins come against a laughable OOC schedule, but they still win and winning is better than losing any day of the week.For the record, Wood, Travis and Dru came here while Hip was still the HC.

I would actually like to know how much time the average voter spends researching the teams on that poll. My guess is not much.

This is the perfect topic for an Akron web page. For whatever reason, I too have fond memories of losing. Some days, being a Zips fan makes me think I'm mentally ill....most other days, it just makes me want to cry.

Question 1. No. The program is built. We do enough rebuilding. We need to start performing.Question 2. No. What you see is what you get. 20 wins a year is impressive.Question 3. Yes. What you see is what you get.Question 4. No. There is not enough community for any Zips program to become an elite at anything.That was easy enough.

you're wrong, he's a thug...periodHow does one qualify to be a thug?

You can also see thuglike behavior exibited by the Miami University (FLA) football team. Specifically those from the Butch Davis era. Am I right, Ray Lewis?What did he go to jail for?

Drinking in college and then driving? We don't need thugs like you on this board ZipAlumn.... Do you guys realize that just about every kid on the team probably goes out for a drink or two after a game...maybe more than two? The older kids might even buy the beer for the younger kids. Come on guys, this is the just the nature of college kids. If they didn't go out for a drink or two, I would think there was something wrong with them. Boys will be boys...

I'm really starting to get a kick out of how often the word "thug" or some variation of the word is used on this board. If you want to see real thuglike behavior, you all can see it acted out on Sunday nights at 9:00 on The Wire. Breaking team rules does not constitute thuglike behavior. Selling crack on a street corner during the day and killing others at night does. How about some perspective guys?Stay tuned for future comments on how improperly the word "classy" is used to describe athletes.

I thought this exact same thing after I saw the Winthrop game. Winthrop isn't even that good, but they had better athletes at every position than we did."You don't win with X's and O's, you win with Jimmies and Joes."In general, the team seems pretty good from what I see and read. If Coach D wants them to be great and dominate the league, he is going to have to worry less about defense and get a guy (maybe we have one) that can fill the basket up night after night. As few points as the Zips scored today, they were asking to lose. Mike Fratello was a guy who obsessed about defense also. The guy coached forever and didn't win anything. Offense wins games. Don't tell me that they use defense to get the offense started either. Had that been the case, they would have won today. CMU had more turnovers than the Zips and the Zips lose...are you kidding me?....it should have been a sure win based upon the turnover margin alone. Offense, offense, offense........ Put the little orange ball through the little orange ring...a lot.Lastly, it should not be a surprise Akron lost today. It is difficult for any team in any sport to play a second road game in a row and win the game. I'd heard somewhere that NFL teams only win around 30% of the time when they play a second road game in a row. We should be happy that Nate made that prayer against OU, or the team is looking at a pretty bad MAC start. Someone mentioned on this thread that other teams figured out Akron. Probably right, but since every sport in every league has become copy cat, Akron is going to have to fix their problems....and soon. Don't play into the copycats hands.

What happened between the Zips timeout and losing?

What are you so angry about all the time?

The conference has oddly set up Akron to play two home and then two away for a long time. Strange.......

not so much as panic as concern seeing that they haven't been able to string anything together and pull away.I can live with concern.

Lots of time. No need to panic.

Time?

I would like to ask a favor. Please give a score with your post so those of us unable to see or hear the game can keep up. Time would help too.

Score update please.

You guys do a darn good job.Set up a PayPal account and ask for donations from the members/readers. It could help cover the costs. Any profit could be donated to the Z-Fund.

Ok, there's only one way to settle this..... You guys will battle tomorrow, in the Machine Shop in the bowels of ASEC. Bring your calculators (or slide rule), and we'll settle this once and for all!I'm in sales. When you guys get done with that, I need all of you to come back and design a solution to a product I need that will be impossible to design and build in a cost effective manner for the customer. Now hurry up with your problem solving and come back quickly.

Welcome to the club Blue & Gold. I was the first to say it years ago on this board. Until last season, we had to hear on this board that the center was just as important as the QB or the old lie that "defense wins championships". That's all nonsense. The QB has to be a winner in addition to being good. Just look at recent history in the NFL and you can see how important the QB is to turning around a team:Cowboys: Bledsoe (sp?) to Romo...Cowboys turn around their team and now have one of the most exciting QB is the league.Patriots: Bledsoe to Brady...Patriots become the best team in history.Steelers: The pile of junk that played between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger to Roethlisberger...The Steelers go from a team on the brink of disaster each week to a legit. winner.Colts: Pile of Junk to Manning...A solid team and World Champion.Browns: The change to DA was the best thing to happen to that franchise since the great bottle throwing incident where "only a few fans" threw 20,000 urine filled bottles onto the field. Those five or six guys must have really been drinking a lot that day.The other great lie in football is that you need a great offensive line to win. Joe Montana won a lot of games with the 49ers early in his career with an offensive line that could at best be described as average. Montana never once had what would be considered a great line.Your analogy to other sports was right on the money. In team sports, not every player is equally important as every other player. The baseball analogy was perfect as a pitcher can dominate a game. In the NBA, it is the center that is most important. In football, it is the QB. In hockey, it is the center. We badly need a QB next year.

I don't see many games, but I keep hearing about depth. Depth is great until you have to use it. A full 11 man rotation in the first half is great. In the second half, rotating 11 is how a coach loses a game. If I had 11 good players, what would I do?I would use the first half to determine which 5-8 players out of that 11 are going to win the game for me, and they would be the only players to play in the final 15 minutes of the game. With 8 minutes to go, the same 5-6 would play unless we had to put guys in to foul late or one fouls out. Late in the game is not the time to rest players...it's the time to WIN the game with the guys who give you the best chance to win that day.My two cents based upon what I see really good teams do on TV.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't have a problem with a little pushing and shoving at the end of a game. I actually like the idea that SM took a hard foul on a Can't player. This is our biggest rival. The emotions should be that high. I'm actually glad SM understands it already as a freshman. A little perspective. In hockey, they fight at the end of a game almost every night. What happened is small in comparison.Nobody was hurt...nobody will be suspended. Let's take some of that emotion out on the next team we play. A little fight is good for a team.

Good leadership by Wood. He could whip just about anyone, if not everyone, in the conference and he is trying the calm the situation.

I think DrZ is right on the money. 23 turnovers is more than one turnover every two minutes. That's unacceptable. If they have fewer turnovers than Can't...let's just say 17 and convert on half of the six fewer turnovers, they have 75 points. The exact score of Can't. The six also gives Can't six fewer scoring chances and they score less than 75 points. Akron wins. In a game between two equal teams, one team is more likely to lose the game than the other team win it. Akron lost the game with turnovers. In the next meeting, this will have to be corrected. Actually, this will have to be corrected in the next game.DrZ is one of the most underrated posters on this board. Your reference to the recruiting thread is missing some of the humorous things he posts. I laughed when I saw it. Boards are fun if you mix in some humor at times.