GP1

I was thinking of making a complete mockery of this logo by creating a poll. The poll would use my original slogan of "Building Since 1946" or whatever year it says. You guys could vote for the completion of the slogan. Who would like to participate in the mockery?

zen picks up on everything that is wrong with the new logo. When you don't know what something is or it looks like something else, it does not say much about the league. I always make fun of the league for it's endless building and little results, and I think the lettering leaning forward is supposed to signify the league building to the future. It is just lame. We could call it the "Lamego".

Nice!!!!Actually, I was thinking..."Building Since 1946"

Exactly. Zips fans have no idea how cheap they really get off. There should be absolutely no complaining about how much tickets cost to a Zips game.Here is what I had to pay for Wake Forest season tickets (2). $125 donation to the Deacon Club (foundation). Try not to go crazy with this cost, but the parking pass was $70. The two tickets were $225 each with a $5 service fee for a total of $700 for one season. All total, the cost per game is $50 per ticket and they have seven games. Wake offers nothing state of the art. They have an old stadium in dumpy old Winston-Salem.Read on if you want to hear a funny story about the incompetence of people working in college athletics....you think it only happens at Akron...... Last year, my wife and I attended the Wake vs. Nebraska game. For those of you who have never been to the Carolinas in September, just assume the hottest day of the year in Ohio every day from the middle of July until the end of September. For those of you who went to the NC State game a couple of years ago, it was much hotter this day than the NC State day. You would think that Wake would be prepared for the heat right? Wrong, they ran out of bottled watter by the middle of the second quarter. I had to pay $10 for two cups of ice at halftime.Now the funny part. Wake only has 31,000 seats in their stadium. 10,000 of those seats had to have been filled by Nebraska fans. People from the Carolinas weather the heat really well and let's just say people from Nebraska aren't used to the heat (they also drink a lot before games so it doesn't help). By the middle of the third quarter, it was a parade of sunburned white people packed in ice bags dressed in red shirts being carted out one after another on stretchers for heat exhaustion. I know I shouldn't laugh at things like this, but it was really funny to see. The more interesting thing is I remeber more about that than what happened on the field in a Skinner-less Wake loss to a bad Nebraska team .

I don't see much wiggle room here for UofA . An appeal may take longer than they want and then they also have the lawyers fees to make the appeal. At some point, UofA needs to move forward. They may be at that point now. As far as changing the project, there is a cost to changing construction and I don't think it would be worth it to do so. Since the project is being financed with bonds, the additional cost will just be spread out over time. In the end, the people of Ohio will need to pay the bill for this.

Mike Thomas sells his soul in order to have a winning team. Where was this initiative at Akron?The most interesting thing in the link is the fan who blogs "He's done nothing, been charged with nothing." Isn't that almost as bad as the crime itself? This football player watches a man rape a woman, has the physical ability to stop it and does nothing (assuming you consider filming the event nothing). Shame on Mike Thomas, a man I greatly respect, for allowing this to happen.

Good logic. I predict the same outcome with different wins and loses.I don't see Can't above, but that will be a win.Wisconsin = LossSU = Win. If we don't win this against a really bad team, it says a lot about us and the MAC.Ball St. = Win. As much as I hate our 3-3-5 defense, it is designed to do well against throwing teams. Can we score though?Army = Win. Same logic as SUCincinnati = Loss. They can win on talent alone.BG = Loss. This will be a loss in a game we should win. Historically, we have one or two a year like this.EMU = WinToledo = Loss. We have trouble against teams that are traditionally good.... Maybe because we are traditionally bad.Buffalo = WinOU = WinTemple = Loss to the team that may win the MAC EastI know what you are all saying, "GP1, you say 5-7 but your schedule shows 6-6". I know, please do not apply logic to the MAC. Akron will inexplicably lose to either Buffalo or OU. Ball St. is too logical of a candidate for us to lose to so I am going with a win. The Syracuse game is really going to set the tone for the year. A win there gets us going, a loss could start the beginning of a really bad year.Either way, get ready for the greatest tradition in the MAC..... Five more years of rebuilding.

http://www.charlotte.com/observer/story/683465.htmlA recent study has been published by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. Dr. John Green is on the faculty at UofA and heads up this Pew Forum. Around 15 years ago, Dr. Green was my graduate school advisor. If you haven't been paying attention to the news recently, this study is making national news. The above article was in the Charlotte Observer and Dr. Green was interviewed by Gwen Eifel on PBS Monday night.UofA is an excellent school with excellent faculty. This exposure is just another example of how good the school is and the quality of education some of received and other are currently receiving.

I hate to sound mean, but he really does NOT have the ability on any level and no amount of wishing will change that. His arm strength is not enough to be more than a #3. People say he held on to the ball too long....The truth is, he did, resulting in frequent fumbles, poorly thrown passes and down and distances too great for anyone to make up. When someone says a QB "holds onto the ball too long" they are really saying that person does not have the intellectual ability to perform in the NFL. People who are good engineers see the world a certain way that others don't. People who are good NFL QBs see the game a certain way that others do not. Charlie just isn't good at absorbing the NFL game as it is going on around him. That doesn't make him stupid, it just makes him unable to perform in the NFL at a high level.In the end, when you say "everything went wrong for him", it really wasn't everything. Charlie went wrong for Charlie and has nobody but himself to blame for being where he is. DA didn't have the same problems CF did and he played behind the exact same line, had the exact same RBs and had the exact same receivers. The Browns went 10-5 with DA starting last year and the fans actually have some hope going into 2008. While I don't know for sure, I don't see that team doing any better than 6-10 with Frye starting last year. Every team knew Frye was the weak link and exposed his weaknesses. The QB is the absolute worst place on the field to have your weak link.

Poor Charlie. He only gets to work at a job paying around $600,000 for the next 4-5 years doing little more than lifting weights and holding a clipboard. If he doesn't want it, I'll take it!

Rasor reported in his blog yesterday that this deal is not actually done for some reason. Seems all but done, but not done yet.Who is the short sighted idiot who signed a deal with Adidas in the first place?

Why don't I remember these two colors in my Crayola box of 64 as a child?

25 cents to $5.70 over 118 years implies an annual inflation rate of just under 2.69%. Oh if it were only true.It does seem odd. Originally, I used 1910 and it gave $5.70 which is the same as the 1890 number. Here is the calculator I used http://www.westegg.com/inflation/Since we are talking inflation and finance....and it is summer with nothing much going on, I learned an interesting fact from a friend. He is one of the probably 10,000 Vice Presidents at Fidelity. Between 1896 and 1996, housing value in the US grew almost exactly with inflation. Between 1996 and 2006, we had the housing bubble and now the bust. They are betting that the value of property has much further to fall than it currently has. Beware!

Since we only know this game was around the turn of the century, let's assume it is around 1890. A ticket to the game was 25 cents. Adjusted for inflation, the cost was $5.70 to attend the game in 2008 depending on the internet calculator one uses (the calculator seems suspect....maybe it's just the user). A Saturday matinee at the movie was also around 15 cents on the high end (I paid $7.50 last weekend). Zips tickets are in excess of $5.70 per ticket. Both the movie industry and the Zips are out performing inflation over the past century. I guess that's something to hang our hat on as long as we do not factor in the comp tickets given out over the years. Let's just hope this is not a sign of a Zips ticket bubble.

This guy uses the word "wood" in a post and not a single Viagra comment? You guys are slipping.

What size bowl do you use to trim that dome?

Nike schools always have better merchandising than other brand schools. In fact, the uniforms typically look better. For a young high school kid looking at schools, this will matter and KD will draw better players because of it.Last year I went to the Winthrop game and they were a Nike school. Their uniforms looked great and look great on TV. They all had matching sweat suits and looked sharp. The Zips looked like a parade of hobos coming out of the dressing room with nobody wearing matching anything.Will this contract apply to football as well? The Zips uniforms could use an overhaul.

Don't forget the popular Chris Spielman jersey. My wife and I used to bet on how soon we would see one while walking to games. I think people still wear them. The guy never played a regular season down.

So, I'm flipping around the TV this evening and the guys from Orange County Choppers (Paul and the boys) are at Giants Stadium learning about the Giants so they can make a Giants chopper. Blackburn and Diehl (sp?) do the tour of the stadium. I thought that was pretty cool.

This thread has me really thinking about sports fans and how we perceive athletes. I just finished reading a great book called "God Save The Fan" by Will Leitch (founder of www.deadspin.com). I actually thought of this board a lot while reading parts of it because he has picked up on many of the thoughts I have about some posters on this board. While I am a pretty conservative guy and I don't see racism everywhere, I know it when I see it and I think I see it a lot on this board. My favorite passage about sports fans was on page 231 and reads....Talking about sports fans, black and white, about favorite players..... "This goes the other way, too. I'm sorry, kids-and it pains me, as a Cardinals fan, to say this-but the only thing that separates David Eckstein and Ronnie Belliard is a few points of on-base percentage, some isolated power (both in Belliard's favor, by the way), and, of course, a few inches of height. Eckstein is white and looks like he's running hard and playing his heart out. Belliard has cornrows, keeps his jersey untucked, and wears his hat sideways, for some reason. Eckstein is gritty and feisty; Belliard is a slacker slob who couldn't find a contract in the off-season after he was an integral part of a St. Louis Cardinals World Series victory. Eckstein gets a bobblehead and World Series MVP award for a series in which he didn't have hit until Game 3."Further on the same page, "Major League Baseball, on the eve of the World Series, ran a poll on its Web site encouraging fans to pick their "all hustle" player... Eckstein was on the list, as were Ty Wigginton and Wes Helms. You know what was notable about the list? Every singel player was white. Freaking John Mabry was on the list! (The oly 'role' John Mabry plays on a baseball team is 'old').The book, while serious at parts, is really a funny read and I would recommend it to everyone. It was a quick read..... two flights and one layover.

What kind of comment is that? So outside of Florida you can put talent above character?No, you just have to look much more closely at character when it comes to a Florida kid, and if there are any red flags at all, you pass. It's just a different culture many of the kids from down there are raised in, and it often doesn't mesh well at all with Ohio and Pennsylvania kids. Anyone who has ever been involved with college football knows what I'm talking about.Seriously, that has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen here. You've obviously never been on a college football team and know nothing about locker room chemistry and the problems that can occur when you throw kids from Florida, who for whatever reason nobody closer to home wanted, in with Midwestern kids. Why is it the fault of the kids from Florida if the midwest kids can't get along with them? Maybe there was only a small group of midwest kids who were the problem and they made the problem much worse than it was. Maybe both parties were at fault.Heil Hitler.

What kind of comment is that? So outside of Florida you can put talent above character?No, you just have to look much more closely at character when it comes to a Florida kid, and if there are any red flags at all, you pass. It's just a different culture many of the kids from down there are raised in, and it often doesn't mesh well at all with Ohio and Pennsylvania kids. Anyone who has ever been involved with college football knows what I'm talking about.Seriously, that has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen here. You've obviously never been on a college football team and know nothing about locker room chemistry and the problems that can occur when you throw kids from Florida, who for whatever reason nobody closer to home wanted, in with Midwestern kids. Almost every single kid JD has gone down to Florida to get has been a problem and most of them have quit, packed up their bags, and left.Actually - I was a Zip football player on scholarship and from the south. I started for three years, got my degree in 4 and was never an issue in the lockeroom- so I take exception to your contentious/stereotypical remarks. I do however remember a few guys on our team from the midwest that had issues and created problems in the locker room. A few were even from OHIO :blink: I do agree that character should play a major role in deciding on a high school player. I also think that should be the case for any player you recruit.......even kids from the great state of ohio.Nice work. I don't believe ITZ's issues have anything to do with geographic location as much as other unstated issues. Instead of arguing with him, you shoud just pass along a hearty Heil Hitler salute and move on.

The crossroads between faith and physical evidence is difficult to navigate. Sort of reminds me of a good story......A reporter ventures out to interview a Baptist Minister. One of the questions was, "Rev., do you believe in full body emersion baptism?"The minister instantly responds, "Of course I do, I've seen it done before.".........We have faith because we have seen DK do it before and we believe he has the ability. Our faith is shaken because we have not seen him do it in so long.He is still too much of an east/west runner for my liking.

It would be better if selections three and four were combined into "Will be a career back up who doesn't have what it takes." That's no slight either. Half the starters in the NFL stink. In a league full of really bad QBs, I see no reason why Frye can't survive another 4-5 years until he is priced out of a #2 or #3 position (he is not quite at that point right now, but close). He'll never start again as a first choice, but the starting experience he does have, while a disaster, will make him an attractive candidate for a team looking for a back up. The experience matters. At this point, Charlie needs to look at it as a really high paying job he needs to keep for as long as he can keep it.

Good point. I'll do you one better. Our goal should be to win the division. As a lifelong Steelers fan, I understand the importance of winning the division. See below.The Steelers organization has figured out what almost every other team in the NFL can't figure out. Build a team to win your division, not the Super Bowl, and you stand a better shot at winning the Super Bowl than the teams building to win the Super Bowl. Lewis was brought to the Bengals to build a team to win the Super Bowl.....they have one playoff appearance which they lost. The Browns are building a team to win the Super Bowl......they have zero playoff appearances and had a chance to make the playoffs last year and couldn't beat a divisional team late in the season and it blew their chance to make the playoffs. In order to win the Super Bowl, you must first make the playoffs. The sure way to make the playoffs is to win your division. A good way to win your division is to go undefeated or lose only one game in divisional matchups. The Steelers do this a lot. This is not rocket science. The Steelers aren't flushy, but they have a team that competes well in the AFC North in bad weather. Once they make the playoffs, anything can happen including winning three road games in a row to make the Super Bowl a couple of years ago.Getting back to the Zips. Let's win the division and let the chips fall where they may. Going undefeated or losing only one game in the MAC East gives the Zips a good shot at Detroit. Once they get to Detroit, anything can happen like the year we beat NIU. Post season play should be the goal. We can have as few as 6 wins and make Detroit (see Miami last year).I could care less where the Zips are picked. I only care where they finish. Every year, someone other than the Steelers is picked to win the AFC North and more often than not, the Steelers win it. Last year, it was the Bengals. This year it is the Browns (Look for the Browns to have an injury filled year and only win six games). Usually, they sexy pick is Baltimore. Nobody remembers that the Steelers won 11 games last year and were a holding penalty away from beating J'Ville in a playoff game with a third string left tackle and a running back they had to pull off the street to play that week. The Zips will be fine if they can just stay focused on winning the MAC East. Tha magic number is six.