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1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:
For someone who preaches "how does the University benefit the community", you sure are hellbent on making sure the University is stuck with the "banned from postseason play" label, which certainly does NOT benefit the community.
I don't think fighting the post season ban is a fight worth having. Akron didn't live up to Akron's obligations as a member of the NCAA. Akron is getting punished for Akron's actions. Accepting punishment for wrongdoing is the adult thing to do. Another adult thing to do would be to learn from this lesson and get better, not call a lawyer.
We're four months away from bowl season. The best we could hope for is to get a temporary injunction until the case could go to trial in 2026. Do you have any idea how full Federal Court dockets are? How long do you want this drama to go on until we ultimately lose a case? What if Akron loses the case and next year at this time we are having the same conversation? How is anyone being helped carrying on with this case?
Adult conversation over.... Meetings over.
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2 hours ago, AkronAlumnus said:
I agree but we have to prove damages. If UA gets six wins then files for the injunction there will be a mass #FreeAkron campaign but we need something to kick that off. If they are going to stink or be modestly better, but not bowl eligible, then there's no reason to fight it.
I'd be difficult to prove damages when making a bowl game would cost the school more than it would make.
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54 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:
Akron needs to lawyer up and fight the postseason ban. Precedent was just set.
Why would we pay for a law firm to fight for a result that would cost us money?
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1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:
With how bad Akron is financially it wouldn't surprise me if they voluntarily allowed him to leave in a cost savings move.
I wouldn't keep him from leaving.
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11 hours ago, UAZippers said:
This is really a shady thing for this coach and ODU to do. If an employee doesn't want to be around, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
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14 minutes ago, WeRise225 said:
So in 2007 UA bought it for 22.6 million, and in 2025 sold it for 800k lol. I know it's in bad shape but that is pretty crazy.
14 minutes ago, WeRise225 said:So in 2007 UA bought it for 22.6 million, and in 2025 sold it for 800k lol. I know it's in bad shape but that is pretty crazy.
Imagine the money they have flushed down the toilet maintaining this albatross over the past couple of decades.
I say good riddance. I've never understood why so many were so emotionally tied to this old factory.
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1 hour ago, catdaddyp said:
They’re in a similar spot to us along the D-Line right now—either last year’s backups or new transfers will be stepping into starting roles. So, they’re still figuring out exactly what they’ve got. I agree that depth matters, but there’s also a chance the guys who went down weren’t going to be impactful contributors anyway. One was projected to start, but the last time he saw the field was 2023 and even then, it was in a backup role with fewer than 75 snaps all season.
I'm unconcerned if someone was a back up player last year and a starter this year. We can't play against last year's team. Players can improve over the off season. If a starter goes down, there's a big problem to deal with at the G5 level and most of P5. Depth in college football is horrible and compound that with the lack of continuity because of the transfer portal, injuries kill.
The question then becomes how does Akron exploit this bad hand WY has been dealt? Attack the backup players in the run game?... That's what they do in the NFL. Prepare for more WY run and pass blitz packages?....I would because backups can't get as much pressure as starters and blitzing helps support them. If a backup is a weak link, how do the Zips block him with one lineman while double teaming Wyoming's better players?....makes sense to me.
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32 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:
Doubt this matters too much at this point, as there’s still plenty of time to figure things out, but Wyoming is already down three defensive linemen for the season—a projected starter at DT, a backup DT, and a backup DE.
Good information. Much needed news for the Zips who have a lot of questions to answer on the O line. This is not insignificant. Injuries are killers in football. Depth is important as players can't play every play. At G5 schools, it's hard to find really good starters and even more difficult to coach your way out of injuries. Coaches are only as good as their players.
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23 minutes ago, LZIp said:
Nice season preview here:
https://akronzippedup.substack.com/p/akron-zips-football-2025-season-preview
Nice find.
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27 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:
Like in all sports, the fun associated with college football is being sucked out the game. No longer are we talking about incoming freshman, and who might see playing time. We’re not talking about the team’s growth from 2024 to 2025. We’re talking Transfer Portal, and NIL. The fun and interesting stuff is now parsley on the plate.
One thing is abundantly clear – the Zips ain’t got no money. We have the smallest staff in D1. We have the smallest budget in D1…by a longshot. Our coaches weren’t even permitted to travel and recruit in the spring. I don’t think any Division 2 schools prevented their coaches from travel-recruiting in the spring, let alone D1. Said Joe Moorhead – “If you wonder why some schools have 15 or 20 kids committed, and we have 3, there you go.”
At some point soon UA is going to need to decide if it wants football, or not. The situation as it stands right now is not sustainable.
These three paragraphs stand out to me.
I agree, college football for me is becoming less interesting by the week. I don't care that there is money in it now for the players. I do care that the conversations around it are so tedious and boring. It's all so gross anymore and I even mean other sports as well. There are lots of other things I can do with my time. I'm going to start doing those and wait for pro football to come on the television on Sundays.
Being broke is bad. Being the poorest of the poor is catastrophic. It's something that can't be hidden from the competition. Heck, they talk about it publicly. I don't know how any coach wins under these conditions. Akron will have a losing record again this season. They will part ways with Joe. Then they will hire another victim. Years ago I drove everyone nuts when I called Akron The Graveyard of Coaches. Please prove me wrong.
Would I care if Akron got rid of football? Yes I would but I'm at the age where I wouldn't be overly upset. Football is the national sport now and they need to find a way to have one at whatever level works for them. I don't want to be a Wright State or Cleveland State. This could be said for a lot of programs around the country. Maybe schools like Dayton have figured it out. Become part of a non-scholarship conference while having high level basketball, etc. Maybe a huge weight would be lifted off of MAC schools if they all went this direction.
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On 7/24/2025 at 1:07 PM, 72 Roo said:
I agree. There are still a significant groups of football supporters who are thirsting for any news on the program and the upcoming season. Too bad we can't get any information.
It's too bad they don't hold public events and fans could go ask questions to quench their thirst. Oh, wait.....
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1 hour ago, ZipCat said:
Sorry I'm a little behind, but does anyone know when/why the rest of the MAC games dates and times hasn't been released? This just seems completely ridiculous that 4 games officially have dates and times but the rest don't? And it seems to be this way across the NCAA ...
Television networks haven't decided.
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3 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said:
BetMGM has set the Zips' season wins under/over at 4.5.
Oh well. I'm not a degenerate gambler so I don't care.
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18 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:
If anything, we're going to see the P4s start trimming the fat in the coming years. If the G5s position themselves right, they'll be able to add some outstanding institutions.
P4 won't trim the fat as in cutting weak programs. It would be a smart for the Big 10 and SEC to have their own football conference. I don't know how many schools they have between them, but the number has to be around the same as the NFL. It's become pretty obvious that the Big 22 and ACC cannot keep up with them.
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46 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:
Alright MAC, your move. Go get em. 🤣
And people think Toledo and Ohio are coveted commodities.
How embarrassing for Memphis. They won 11 games last year. Let me be the first to welcome them to the new G5 division.
I will say, it's been nice to have an off season without all of the conference jumping. That part of college football may have run it's course.
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1 hour ago, a-zip said:
I posted this 7 years ago and here we are.......
This was quite the ramble. I'm jealous.
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Looks like one game starting 3:30 or earlier on Saturday. Miami game start time not set but on a Saturday. Could the start times get any worse?
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12 hours ago, Hilltopper said:
The current trustees are in a difficult position trying to keep UA from bankruptcy and dissolution.
Bankruptcy is bad. Dissolution is worse. Anything further you would like to share?
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I wouldn't attend this if I still lived in Akron, but I think it's a good idea. Annually, they would have things like golf outings to bring people together. I didn't play in those either because I absolutely suck at golf to the point I'm made miserable playing, and I'm not blowing a round of golf level money to be made miserable. I prefer to throw money at the University from a distance. I'm so lazy about it I don't even write checks anymore. I let them automatically take money from my account every month.
A small $20 event at a coffee shop is a good idea to bring some people in who don't want to spend golf level money but want to learn more about what's going on. It is also pretty low cost, which is important right now. I hope people attend.
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40 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:
Even before MACtion Akron football was an afterthought. It would be even worse today as live attendance at sporting events is down a crossed the board at all levels compared to the 80s or 90s.
I can't speak for everyone, but my undergrad was during the Ianello years. Having a new stadium should have been an exciting time for the program. Instead it was a pathetic excuse for football. People can forgive you for losing by 3 touchdowns to a ranked P4 program. Consistently losing by 20, 30, 40 points to teams in your own conference week after week destroys fan enthusiasm. Often times the games were decided before half-time. More so than just losing, nobody wants to watch bad football. At least when the Browns lose it's often times still a game entering the 4th QTR.
The same friends who I used to go to games with as an undergrad quit going and now even if I tried giving them free tickets, they'd rather just stay home and do yardwork or whatever else.
The Northwestern win was the most excited I have been as a Zips football fan (wasn't a Zips fan until 2007). The issue is they failed to build off of it. I think they finished 4-8 that season. Followed by Arth's 3-24 tenure. Why would Joe Akron care if after a big win they just go back to being the same old Akron?
The last game I went to was in 2016 when App State came to town. If you're wanting 15k-20k people at games I'm the low hanging fruit you should be looking to attract. I obviously have an interest in Akron sports since I post here and since that time I have even attended dozens of other Akron sporting events. Heck, I've even went to several alumni homecoming tailgates, but skipped the game. Deciding on either going to Eurogyro to hang out with friends or just going home instead. I'm telling you the reason I don't attend is because watching bad football, which Akron has played for the better part of the decades I've been a fan, isn't worth spending 4 hours of my Saturday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. You're a former football player if I recall correctly and it seems if you were local you would probably already have season tickets. You're not the Joe Akron that needs to be convinced to attend. Simply playing games on Saturdays isn't going to make 10k more fans show up in the frigid cold. Much more needs to be changed.
I wouldn't buy season tickets because I wouldn't go to the weeknight games or any game that starts after 3:30. There is no reason for a family of four with the oldest child being 11 to go to a game starting later or on a weeknight, which isn't me, I'm just saying.
By itself, Akron can't solve this problem. It's a problem throughout the G5 world. The causes are many. The solutions will be simple but hard to achieve because of the enemy within, athletic directors.
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1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:
I don't have hard numbers, but I would guess Akron is averaging around 8k-10k currently. An extra 5k-7k fans (to get us to 15k) per game isn't going to suddenly make Akron financially competitive at the G5 level. Especially when you consider the majority of those extra ticket sales would be GA, which last I look are about $15/ticket, or students who get free admission.
Edit: That's not to say it wouldn't be great to have more fans at games. What would get people's interest is winning games that matter.
Joe Akron isn't going to care about Akron trying to pad its win totals against cupcakes, like New Mexico State, just so that it can backdoor its way into a 6-6 record and irrelevant bowl game that only hard-core fans or degenerate gamblers care about. What could get their attention is beating UM in the Big House, which we nearly did. You only have those opportunities if you schedule those games. App State had a lot of success at the FCS level, but their win over Michigan is what everyone remembers them for.
Well, if the G5 schools pulled their heads out of their backsides, they could structure their league in a way that finances were less of a burden.
I don't think a high level P4 win does much for a G5 school long term. App State was already a good program. It won national championships the two years prior to beating Michigan and were a I-AA powerhouse for years prior. Win or lose against Michigan that day, App State would be good. I think that the incoming freshman class wasn't born when they beat Michigan. It's a strange historical fact for them in the same way that Akron beating OSU in the late 1800s is a strange historical fact now.
Our problem is even when something good happens, it's never enough and an excuse for why we can't be any good. Wins against Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Northwestern (I think they played in the Big 10 championship this season)?..... That's not good enough, they didn't beat Michigan that one time so nobody cares. The reason nobody cares is because even if they were good, they play their games on days of the week and at times that make it almost impossible for people to either attend and/or care. They play their arch rival on weekday night games in front of a basically empty stadium. The money problem can be mitigated, but the stupidity can't.
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1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:
Its not just college sports. The MAC schools have to compete with pro and minor league sports as well. Using northeast Ohio as an example, we have the Browns, Guardians, and Cavs, multiple minor league baseball teams, the Lake Erie Monsters, and Cleveland Charge. Not to mention whatever other entertainment options.
People only have so much available time and only so much disposable income. I believe Cleveland is the smallest metro to have 3 major pro sports teams. Many of the SunBelt schools are in the middle of nowhere. Those schools have less to compete with for live entertainment.
Millions of people live in NE Ohio. Surely someone could figure out a way to get 15,000 of them to show up for a football game six times a year.
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On 7/18/2025 at 7:29 AM, Blue & Gold said:
Was driving through campus yesterday & noticed the Martin University Center is for sale.
I hate to hear this. I believe universities should maintain at least some old buildings.
It's been over 30 years, but at one time the restaurant in the basement served the best grilled chicken sandwiches in Akron.
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43 minutes ago, ZipCat said:
Bingo. The days of being a competitive G5 team that can "build a fanbase" are gone folks.
I'm of the opinion that if G5 schools snap out of it and begin to use their athletic departments to benefit the athletes students alumni fans and general community around their schools, their greatest days could be ahead of them.
Further, I believe there is room for only one professional football league dominating the attention of Americans in the fall and winter. That league is the NFL. I believe over time Americans will grow weary with the pro football of the P4 schools when they realize only 3-4 schools are capable of winning the league. It won't happen overnight, but interest will erode. When that happens, people will look for other ways to spend time with their family and friends. OSUlike games are out of reach for most families. Why can't G5 schools provide games at a time and day of the week when families can attend? Get people to the games and everything else the school offers is on display for the taxpayers. Make it a great day for them and then you have something.
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The World of College Football
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The ABJ wouldn't give Akron a bad look in this case. Akron would be giving itself a bad look.