WHAT THE &%$#???????????

[Let'sGoZips94]

im about ready to

See me? I'm the guy in the middle flipping the car and I'm the guy in the orange shirt in the background getting tossed by a policeman.

[Zipsrifle]

Looking at some of those pictures of the SVSM field, I think we should play all our games there. That field looks really nice and the view of downtown is KILLER! I just don't understand why we don't play the next game there!?!

[Let'sGoZips94]

I just don't understand why we don't play the next game there!?!

That's the million dollar question.

[bmaker]

From the NCAA Men's Soccer Tournament Guidelines:"For preliminary-round sites, a team seeded in the top 16 will automatically be selectedas a site, unless the institution did not submit a bid to host or if its field is unplayable. Ifa game involves two seeded teams, the higher seed will host, unless the institution didnot submit a bid to host or its field is unplayable."So it says "unless ... its field is unplayable", fine. But nowhere could I find anything that says the game automatically defaults to the opponent's field!

[ZipAlumn]

You can send an email to the a-holes at the NCAA at:http://www.ncaa.com/feedback/ncaa-feedback.html :mad_flame: :mad_flame:

[MRasor0200]

I had another conversation that was not so promising...www.ohiomm.com/blogs/zips

[Valpo Zip]

If that game is played outside of NE Ohio, i am done with Zips athletics. Screwing us with seedings year after year i can swallow, leaving us out of the 2006 NIT in basketball i also swallowed. If this one happens, Mac Rhodes, president Proenza, and the whole MAC personnel can go F**K themselves

[Let'sGoZips94]

You can send an email to the a-holes at the NCAA at:http://www.ncaa.com/feedback/ncaa-feedback.html :mad_flame: :mad_flame:

I just gave the NCAA my 2 cents...

[zipsbandman]

Honestly the MAC is a joke. It is a dead-end conference. National championship in any sport is a pipe dream. MAC = bush league..MAC schools = bush league. Any 1-A conference in the country is better than the MAC, but it really should not have come down to this. We can't even get a soccer field in playing condition so we have to go play at a local high school in the NCAA TOURNAMENT? Disgraceful... Sounds like the fields in Chicago are fine. I bet MSU's field was fine. This is soccer for crying out loud. You play it in anything. I'm not even a soccer fan and never attended any of the games but this whole fiasco is pretty disturbing, and it reminds me of the bowl snub and the NIT snub. Only at Akron we would lose home field.

[Let'sGoZips94]

Honestly the MAC is a joke. It is a dead-end conference. National championship in any sport is a pipe dream. We can't even get a soccer field in playing condition? Disgraceful... Sounds like the fields in Chicago are fine. I bet MSU's field was fine. MAC = bush league..MAC schools = bush league. This is soccer for crying out loud. You play it in anything. I'm not even a soccer fan and never attended any of the games but this whole fiasco is pretty disturbing, and it reminds me of the bowl snub and the NIT snub. A MAC school does not deserve a progam rlike our soccer team.

BIG EAST (clap-clap) BIG EAST (clap-clap)

[bandzip]

From the Official NCAA Soccer Rulebook: http://nymisoa.com/pdf/2008_2009_ncaa_soccer_rules.pdfIt is the responsibility of the home team to notify the visiting team,before the date of the game, of any changes in field dimensions (e.g.,greater or lesser than minimal requirements), playing surface (e.g., fromgrass to artificial or vice versa) or location of the playing site. Further, itis recommended that teams agree on field dimensions before confirmingcontests or signing game contracts.Nowhere does it say the game moves to the opponents field, simply that the other team must be notified of a change of location. Has anyone figured out yet why it's moved to Northwestern?

[ZachTheZip]

Can anybody find anything on Northwestern's message boards?

[Zipsrifle]

From the Official NCAA Soccer Rulebook: http://nymisoa.com/pdf/2008_2009_ncaa_soccer_rules.pdfIt is the responsibility of the home team to notify the visiting team,before the date of the game, of any changes in field dimensions (e.g.,greater or lesser than minimal requirements), playing surface (e.g., fromgrass to artificial or vice versa) or location of the playing site. Further, itis recommended that teams agree on field dimensions before confirmingcontests or signing game contracts.Nowhere does it say the game moves to the opponents field, simply that the other team must be notified of a change of location. Has anyone figured out yet why it's moved to Northwestern?

The next paragraph reads:If the home team's regular field is not able to be played upon,they can choose another suitable field in to play, unless,it is Akron in the NCAA tourney. In such an event, we the opposing team will automatically have it's seeding changed to be 1/2 below that of Akron to follow the rules detailed above. Actually, I know a way around this. Why don't we just use eminent domain to take over the SVSM field and declare it OUR field!

[Let'sGoZips94]

Can anybody find anything on Northwestern's message boards?

http://northwestern.rivals.com/forum.asph Nothing about soccer though. Their athletics site is peeing their pants though about getting another home game: http://nusports.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/s.../112608aab.htmlThis is just getting so out of control, it makes me want to go march up to the NCAA committee and give them all my 80 pound body can muster.

[Big Zip]

Listen how about someone put this at the feet of those responsible -- the UA athletics department for not keeping the field in good shape. We've got an indoor field for football, an out door practice field for football and a stadium all with turf -- for a piss poor football team that disappoints us very year. We don't even have a tarp for the soccer field.

[Guzijeff]

From the Official NCAA Soccer Rulebook: http://nymisoa.com/pdf/2008_2009_ncaa_soccer_rules.pdfIt is the responsibility of the home team to notify the visiting team,before the date of the game, of any changes in field dimensions (e.g.,greater or lesser than minimal requirements), playing surface (e.g., fromgrass to artificial or vice versa) or location of the playing site. Further, itis recommended that teams agree on field dimensions before confirmingcontests or signing game contracts.Nowhere does it say the game moves to the opponents field, simply that the other team must be notified of a change of location. Has anyone figured out yet why it's moved to Northwestern?

read the top of page 8http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handb...er_handbook.pdfNote: For preliminary-round sites, a team seeded in the top 16 will automaticallybe selected as a site, unless the institution did not submit a bid to host or its field isunplayable. If a game involves two seeded teams, the higher seed will host, unless theinstitution did not submit a bid to host or its field is unplayable.I saw the field and talked to one of the guys standing at the gate last night, It looked a mess. It sucked up a lot of water. The people trying to prepare the field were sinking 2 inches or so into the turf trying to clear the snow. and no Zipsbandman, you can't "play it in anything" I've been playing myself for a long time (I'm 38), and if you sink 2 inches in the field and the ball can't roll, then you can't play. this ain't that sport with the pointy ball that really can be played in anything.....It's a shame, but the rulebook does state that the higher seed does not host if it's field is unplayable.

[bandzip]

From the Official NCAA Soccer Rulebook: http://nymisoa.com/pdf/2008_2009_ncaa_soccer_rules.pdfIt is the responsibility of the home team to notify the visiting team,before the date of the game, of any changes in field dimensions (e.g.,greater or lesser than minimal requirements), playing surface (e.g., fromgrass to artificial or vice versa) or location of the playing site. Further, itis recommended that teams agree on field dimensions before confirmingcontests or signing game contracts.Nowhere does it say the game moves to the opponents field, simply that the other team must be notified of a change of location. Has anyone figured out yet why it's moved to Northwestern?

The next paragraph reads:If the home team's regular field is not able to be played upon,they can choose another suitable field in to play, unless,it is Akron in the NCAA tourney. In such an event, we the opposing team will automatically have it's seeding changed to be 1/2 below that of Akron to follow the rules detailed above. Actually, I know a way around this. Why don't we just use eminent domain to take over the SVSM field and declare it OUR field!

Whew, for a second there I thought I really missed something... don't scare me like that. It just makes no sense to me. Unless there are special playoff rules it appears that it's completely legal for the home team to choose a new location. Was this a NCAA decision or what?

[BostonZip]

Actually, I know a way around this. Why don't we just use eminent domain to take over the SVSM field and declare it OUR field!

NU's field doesn't look considerably better than the field at St. V-M, except for possibly a newer-generation turf. I'm eager to hear the NCAA explain this move. http://nusports.cstv.com/facilities/lakeside-field.html

[ZachTheZip]

From the Official NCAA Soccer Rulebook: http://nymisoa.com/pdf/2008_2009_ncaa_soccer_rules.pdfIt is the responsibility of the home team to notify the visiting team,before the date of the game, of any changes in field dimensions (e.g.,greater or lesser than minimal requirements), playing surface (e.g., fromgrass to artificial or vice versa) or location of the playing site. Further, itis recommended that teams agree on field dimensions before confirmingcontests or signing game contracts.Nowhere does it say the game moves to the opponents field, simply that the other team must be notified of a change of location. Has anyone figured out yet why it's moved to Northwestern?

read the top of page 8http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handb...er_handbook.pdfNote: For preliminary-round sites, a team seeded in the top 16 will automaticallybe selected as a site, unless the institution did not submit a bid to host or its field isunplayable. If a game involves two seeded teams, the higher seed will host, unless theinstitution did not submit a bid to host or its field is unplayable.I saw the field and talked to one of the guys standing at the gate last night, It looked a mess. It sucked up a lot of water. The people trying to prepare the field were sinking 2 inches or so into the turf trying to clear the snow. and no Zipsbandman, you can't "play it in anything" I've been playing myself for a long time (I'm 38), and if you sink 2 inches in the field and the ball can't roll, then you can't play. this ain't that sport with the pointy ball that really can be played in anything.....It's a shame, but the rulebook does state that the higher seed does not host if it's field is unplayable.

It does say that. It doesn't say that the game should be moved to the lower seed's home field, however. A neutral site would be fine according their rulebook. This was simply an excuse for the NCAA to try and ensure that only the "big name" teams advance to the title match.

[ZipAlumn]

I had another conversation that was not so promising...www.ohiomm.com/blogs/zips

I gave Rasor my two cents about his "cheap shot" about Akron being at fault for poor drainage at Lee Jackson Field ......... it was taken down despite my "tongue biting" lack of profanity.

[RootforRoo44]

it's a bunch of bullshit. I'm about to drive to Indianapolis and piss on the side of this building, then go inside and give everyone one of them a piece of my mind.

[MDZip]

You can send an email to the a-holes at the NCAA at:http://www.ncaa.com/feedback/ncaa-feedback.html :mad_flame: :mad_flame:

I just gave the NCAA my 2 cents...

I just did the same - for whatever good it'll do, we at least need to let them know our anger over stealing a hard earned right away from the team. I was not profane not accusatory, but I think all Zips fans are owed an explanation. This is what I said.How is it even remotely fair to have a team get a high NCAA seed in soccer only to have their game moved to an opponents field (not even a neutral field)? I am talking about an apparent decision to move the Akron-Northwestern playoff game to Chicago! I am bringing my family to Ohio over Thanksgiving to support a Zips team that absolutely earned the right to play at home. I understand that if a playing field is unplayable a new venue can be selected. There is no alternative field anywhere other than the opponents home field? Could someone please explain this to the legion of loyal Zips fans as to how this is even remotely a fair situation? What happens if the Zips advance yet again in spite of this extreme disadvantge? Will they yet again go on the road despite being a #5 seed? Explanation, please?

[ZipAlumn]

I went to the NCAA web page and filled out their "Championship Survey" just to be able to sound off at the end about their switching sites. The survey seemed more concerned with the the video screen at Championship locations and the sale of NCAA souveniers than anything else. The NCAA belongs in the

[RootforRoo44]

"I know a lot of you are angry. You should be. D'Ann Keller is the men's soccer championship representative at the NCAA. E-mail her at dkeller@ncaa.org. The representative for issues regarding the rules is Teresa Smith (tksmith@ncaa.org). The phone number is (317) 917-6222."from Rasor's blog....anyone call that number?

[zippypitt]

You can send an email to the a-holes at the NCAA at:http://www.ncaa.com/feedback/ncaa-feedback.html :mad_flame: :mad_flame:

I just gave the NCAA my 2 cents...

I just did the same - for whatever good it'll do, we at least need to let them know our anger over stealing a hard earned right away from the team. I was not profane not accusatory, but I think all Zips fans are owed an explanation. This is what I said.How is it even remotely fair to have a team get a high NCAA seed in soccer only to have their game moved to an opponents field (not even a neutral field)? I am talking about an apparent decision to move the Akron-Northwestern playoff game to Chicago! I am bringing my family to Ohio over Thanksgiving to support a Zips team that absolutely earned the right to play at home. I understand that if a playing field is unplayable a new venue can be selected. There is no alternative field anywhere other than the opponents home field? Could someone please explain this to the legion of loyal Zips fans as to how this is even remotely a fair situation? What happens if the Zips advance yet again in spite of this extreme disadvantge? Will they yet again go on the road despite being a #5 seed? Explanation, please?

Good point, are we comletely losing home field for the remainder of the tournament????I can hear opposing coaches now on recruiting visits, "Why play for Akron? They can't even enjoy home field in the tournament."This is a travesty to the supporters of this team. I thought today's crowd was VERY respectable given the circumstances.