English takes EMU job

[gozips19]

very good hire for EMU.....good luck!click me

[ksu sucks]

very good hire for EMU.....good luck!click me

Good luck to him...he will probably need it.

[zipboy]

MAC football coaches salaries are starting to escalate. I remember when Solich was hired at 250K a few years back, that drew a lot of oohs and aahs. Now the BSU guy and English get 350K. NIU signed their guy last year north of 300K. Over the next 3-4 years the rest of the league will probably follow suit.

[GP1]

This is probably the biggest "name" to be hired in the MAC since Solich.

[ZachTheZip]

MAC football coaches salaries are starting to escalate. I remember when Solich was hired at 250K a few years back, that drew a lot of oohs and aahs. Now the BSU guy and English get 350K. NIU signed their guy last year north of 300K. Over the next 3-4 years the rest of the league will probably follow suit.

What's funny is that those kinds of salaries don't even compare to coordinator jobs at some other schools.

[skip-zip]

uakronkid...good point. MAC salaries might be getting larger, but the only thing that matters is how these salaries compare to other coaching jobs in 1-A. We simply don't have the budgets to make big offers to marquee coaches. And sadly enough, if this guy has any kind of success, don't expect to see him stay there more than a few years.

[GP1]

And sadly enough, if this guy has any kind of success, don't expect to see him stay there more than a few years.

Unless of course he gets Turner Gilled by a bunch of good old boy boosters who don't like the way he looks. If a coach can win at a MAC school, they can win anywhere. Saban wins everywhere he goes.....The guy at Missouri wins, Urban M. wins at Florida and won at Utah, Hoepner was about to turn around the program at IU and Kelly is winning huge at UC. It is almost a crime what they did to Turner Gill at Auburn. The only explanations are they are truly ignorant of how hard it is to win in the MAC and they do not understand what he accomplished at UB; or, they are a bunch of racists who did not want to hire a black guy. If someone has another answer, I'd be willing to listen.The new guy at Auburn will last two-three years and they had better hope at that point Gill would still be available.The problem English has is he is from the east and known in the east. Two of the top three conferences (SEC, Big 12 and PAC 10) are in the south/southeast and in a part of the country where he would not be welcomed. He would be unknown in the PAC 10 part of the world where he would be more welcomed but since he is unknown he would not get a job. Even if he has some success, the best he can hope for is a job at a second tier conference like the Big Ten or Big East or ACC or WAC or something like that. The premier confereces will be out of his reach for all the wrong reasons.

[Captain Kangaroo]

MAC football coaches salaries are starting to escalate. I remember when Solich was hired at 250K a few years back, that drew a lot of oohs and aahs. Now the BSU guy and English get 350K. NIU signed their guy last year north of 300K. Over the next 3-4 years the rest of the league will probably follow suit.

If the MAC can adopt a salary structure that prevents us from losing our premiere coaches to San Diego State, I'd be happy. I could see Turner Gill leaving Buffalo for a pay increase at Youngstown State.

[skip-zip]

Captain...there's the question. Are MAC level schools willing to raise their budgets to the level that will keep football coaches when all of the programs in the MAC operate at a huge loss, and fan support is minimal?

[ZachTheZip]

The trick isn't really to increase budgets to be able to pay coaches more. Of course, that would be nice and would help out with keeping good coaches, but the best coaches will leave no matter what we pay them. The least the MAC schools can do is to put an achievement-based buyout clause into the contract. A good coach would have a much higher buyout than a losing coach. That gives the school some extra money to offer a replacement. I don't understand why MAC schools don't do this when you know that as soon as any MAC coach has a decent to good season he will leave at the first chance he gets.

[johnnyzip84]

I think English is an excellent hire for EMU and I wish him well there, save for intra-divisional tilts with Akron.I also happen to agree with Sir Charles and GP1 on the way Gill was treated in the Auburn hiring process. And if time proves the three of us to have been correct I believe the fall-out could be huge, particularly in terms of recruiting in the south. The one additional, necessary catalyst for this change to occur is the hiring of more black head coaches period. IF THAT OCCURS I believe the head coaching landscape might begin to take on an obviously "regional" bias (i.e. the new black head coaches concentrated in the mid-west, east, and west coast). Think of the impact THAT could have on southern recruiting. If I'm a talented African-American from Georgia or Florida, but I'm concerned about how HC's are hired in the SEC, don't you think I might consider playing up north (or west or east)? The MAC, with 2 black HC's out of 13 (15%), could certainly benefit from this perception. This is just another reason why I hope for continued success for Gill at UB (except against the Zips) and for English to have success in turning EMU around.It's my opinion (and I'm honestly not trying to jam it down anyone's throat) that schools like Auburn are truly limiting themselves, if they are indeed altering their hiring criteria to exclude or raise the bar for anyone based on anything other than what they can bring to the football field.

[UApride94]

I think this is a great hire...for us. I caught some louisville games this year including the last game against rutgers and that was the worst display of defense i have ever seen. 63 points i think rutgers scored. This along with other hires such as bowling green (Clawson offensive at tennessee was god awful), Toledo (beckman defense at ok state was suspect) maybe miami (oh) will hire the offensive coordinator that got fired from auburn 09' is the year the zips rise to glory