BostonZip Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Akron coach Keith Dambrot's uncle part of 1949-50 scandalFor years, the NCAA wouldn't put a regional event in Portland, a policy against the state's Sports Action lottery game involving the National Football League.By Bud WithersSeattle Times staff reporterFor years, the NCAA wouldn't put a regional event in Portland, a policy against the state's Sports Action lottery game involving the National Football League.When the Oregon Lottery removed Sports Action, it opened the way for the NCAA to place this week's first- and second-round games at the Rose Garden in Portland.That might provide a haunting connection this week for Keith Dambrot, the coach of the Akron team that plays Gonzaga in the first round Thursday.Dambrot's uncle, Irwin Dambrot, was a star player for the City College of New York team that is the only program (in 1950) to win both the NCAA and National Invitation Tournament titles — back when teams could play in both.Irwin Dambrot, though, also earned a bit of infamy. He became part of a point-shaving scandal that swept through New York colleges in that era and also touched some schools in the South and Midwest.According to the book "Sports Heroes, Fallen Idols," Dambrot was involved in the point-shaving of three games in the 1949-50 season, including one against UCLA. In a scandal that also encircled several teammates, Dambrot was convicted of a misdemeanor and given a suspended sentence."He never really recovered from that totally," Keith Dambrot said Monday. "It's a sad thing. You're talking about a lot of poor people and organized crime."Read the Dambrot article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 They're really reaching on this. An evil uncle? Really?Actually, I have to give them credit here. They could have taken the easy path and reported about his incident at CMU, but instead they actually did some research and dug up something straight out of the blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Well I certainly had no idea there was a KD connection there at all. That CCNY team is one of the most famous (and infamous, I suppose) is college basketball history. It's an interesting, although very sad of course, story. It makes me wonder just how many teams got away with what CCNY did during this period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 They're really reaching on this. An evil uncle? Really?Actually, I have to give them credit here. They could have taken the easy path and reported about his incident at CMU, but instead they actually did some research and dug up something straight out of the blue.It isn't a "reach," it is a part of college basketball history.Unlike Elton Alexander, who brings up topics for the sole purpose of making KD or the Zips look bad, this guy did some research and came up with an interesting, historic, tourney-relevant story. You are correct - He had an opportunity to "dig" at KD's CMU stint, but took the high road. Unlike Livingston and Alexander.Zips fans just aren't used to seeing unbiased, high-level journalism 'round these parts. I'm sure more interesting stories will come from the national media over the course of the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Since becoming the PD's "beat" writer for the Zips early this season, I think it's fair to say the Elton has moved on. He was the most optimistic and bullish writer on the Zips this season, from nearly the beginning. I think it's been a couple season since Elton removed the ", once fired for using a ...." insert in every article after the word "Dambrot"Livingston's article last weekend was pretty lazy .. but he did follow it up with respect for the Zips .. so he's 1-1.There was an interesting tidbit in the back end of one of Livingston's articles in the print edition that I can't locate online.Something to the effect that "The Zips were a better basketball team long before the flushes .. and now they're back where they should be." ... I'll have to dig it up to get it right. No recycling this week .. so we should still have it.Go Zips!! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 If I remember correctly Brooklyn College, NYU, Kentucky, Long Island U, Manhattan College were also in that scandal. Actually there was a prior scaandal in late 40s & I brlieve Kentucky was involved in that one, I may have thwm confused but that is why I don't gamble on college. That & I lot my paychec on nickle, dime, 15 cent raise poker while in USAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I think the only reason this connection to Irwin Dambrot came up is because it's such big local news that Washington can now host NCAA events after doing away with the state sports lottery. In researching the effects of gambling on college basketball, any good reporter would be likely to come across this family connection to a long past notorious event. If we dig deeply enough into everyone's family tree, we'll eventually find someone who did something questionable. A few centuries ago, a distant relative of mine was said to be an evil black knight who terrorized the German countryside beheading innocent peasants. I'm not at all like that, except maybe when it comes to Can't ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I had a great uncle who was once President of OU (hangs head in shame ), they even have a dorm on campus named after him, so skeletons are everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Since becoming the PD's "beat" writer for the Zips early this season, I think it's fair to say the Elton has moved on. He was the most optimistic and bullish writer on the Zips this season, from nearly the beginning. I think it's been a couple season since Elton removed the ", once fired for using a ...." insert in every article after the word "Dambrot"Livingston's article last weekend was pretty lazy .. but he did follow it up with respect for the Zips .. so he's 1-1.There was an interesting tidbit in the back end of one of Livingston's articles in the print edition that I can't locate online.Something to the effect that "The Zips were a better basketball team long before the flushes .. and now they're back where they should be." ... I'll have to dig it up to get it right. No recycling this week .. so we should still have it.Go Zips!! B) I disagree that Elton has "moved on." Otherwise he wouldn't have pussy-footed around with Singletary, detailing his sucker punch as follows:"Replays showed a half-extended right hand by Singletary to Linhart's sternum as he jumped to make a pass on the baseline." He followed that with text attempting to disprove Dambrot's allegations that Singletary is a dirty player. Singletary has 4 arrests in 2 years at K.e.n.t, yet Alexander jumps to his defense? Inferrs Dambrot is a crybaby? Read into that what you will....Regarding Livingston - The guy was assigned to a tournament that he obviously knew nothing about. He loves dissing Dru and Travis because the were "Lebron's buddies," ignoring their contributions in building the Zips program. The guy wrote that "Kyrem Massey didn't even throw a punch at Jamie Bosley (separate article from last week)." Yeah, no punch...he threw a cheap-shot elbow to his face. All livingstone knows is Dambrot coached LeBron...and he coached CMU. If he can't write a column with a fresher take than that, I'll call him out.If Alexander wants to be critical of the Zips program, and it is legit...like when he recently ripped on the Zips weak non-conference schedule...I say "good for him!" When he drifts back into his BS agendas...he gets tagged with "Ellen." His agenda is very transparent. And it is negative towards the Zips program. I'll continue to call him out when it rears its ugly head. Just like I praise him if he does a good job. That's fair. I can't pretend his agenda is gone...because it obviously isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Fair enough on your Singletary comments there .. though the press is in the rafters at the MACC, and if he posted a story without seeing the video, he's guilty of bad reporting. From what I've read elsewhere, it was difficult to see the play live from up there. So assuming he wrote that before seeing the video .. I'll go along with you there ..But negative about the Zips? I think that has waned. For pretty much the last month of the season, his stories referred to the Zips as a team building to a championship, playing like legit contenders, or in the case of the BG home game .. performing well beneath their championship potential. They guy called his shot early this year about the Zips .. and stayed on the bandwagon where others were gone.Agree to disagree I guess on this.The amusing thing to me is if you peruse a certain other forum about this same writer, you'll find equal or even greater accusations that Elton is a Zip Lover .. a shill for UA .. etc. So perhaps if he's disliked on both sides, he must be writing with some equal treatment.Go Zips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 The amusing thing to me is if you peruse a certain other forum about this same writer, you'll find equal or even greater accusations that Elton is a Zip Lover .. a shill for UA .. etc. So perhaps if he's disliked on both sides, he must be writing with some equal treatment.Or, it could further my point since we all know K.e.n.t. fans aren't the smartest hippies in the bong shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 There is that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonZip Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Irwin Dambrot died last week. Read the New York Times obituary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 The school’s battle cry, “Allagaroo!,’’ echoed through Manhattan, and the venerable City College coach, Nat Holman, basked in the plaudits with his players.Eerily similar to "Fear the Roo!?" RIP Irwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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