ZachTheZip Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/in...ce_vote_mo.htmlI hope the men's tournament stays as a 12-team tourney in Cleveland. The women's tourney can move to Toledo as a 12-team thing, which would be good for the sport. Right now WBB is seen as riding on the backs of the men's tournament, instead of being its own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Changing the format of the men's tournament is a bad idea. It isn't going to draw any more interest on low seeds home courts than it will in Cleveland and it ultimately hurts the image of the league. Moving the women's tourney isn't a wholly bad idea. Bowling Green is the big powerhouse of womens hoops in the MAC and putting that tournament closer to the BG campus would help to ensure higher attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I guess it all depends on where you are at in a given year. Last year, it obviously was a disadvantage to us to have to play #12 Toledo on a neurtal floor on Tuesday night. The one thing I do like about keeping those games in Cleveland on Tuesday is the increased exposure for the league, and especially for Akron. Those games are much more publicized by the NE Ohio media than they would be if they were at campus sites. And I really do think Joe NE Ohio College Basketball Fan will probably go to a tournament game at the Q before he'd go to an opening round game at the JAR or in Can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Moving the women's tourney isn't a wholly bad idea. Bowling Green is the big powerhouse of womens hoops in the MAC and putting that tournament closer to the BG campus would help to ensure higher attendance.It's a bad idea. If having the games played at the top-ranked school is a good thing, then let's do that for the men also. Will you go along with that? I didn't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 French said during the MAC tourney there was a very real possibility the tournament would not return to Cleveland. The Q does not want both the men and women's expanded tournament. The arena was blocked off from Tuesday - Sunday, too many time slots were taken up. #1 priority has to be keeping the men's tournament in Cleveland. If they lost that, you may as well close up shop. The men's tourney is the best thing the league has going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Moving the women's tourney isn't a wholly bad idea. Bowling Green is the big powerhouse of womens hoops in the MAC and putting that tournament closer to the BG campus would help to ensure higher attendance.It's a bad idea. If having the games played at the top-ranked school is a good thing, then let's do that for the men also. Will you go along with that? I didn't think so.I don't think the Presidents are talking about playing the women's tourney at a campus site. If I read the article correctly the women's tourney would be played at a neutral site in Toledo. In that respect it makes a lot of sense. Just as Akron and Can't being two of the better teams on the men's side anchor the attendance numbers in Cleveland for the men's tournament, BG and to a lesser extent Toledo could anchor a neutral site women's tournament in terms of attendance in Northwest Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Just for clarification, I am assuming that this...http://www.lucascountyarena.com/would be the site for the women's tournament if it moved to Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I could handle the MAC moving something to Columbus, which is still fairly well centrally located. Of course, that is just me being selfish since if, for example, the men's tourney were held at Nationwide Arena it would be a 5 minute walk from my work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I could handle the MAC moving something to Columbus, which is still fairly well centrally located. Of course, that is just me being selfish since if, for example, the men's tourney were held at Nationwide Arena it would be a 5 minute walk from my work. The MAC will NEVER locate their tournaments in Columbus. It would be a disaster (come to think of it, the move does have MAC written all over it). The entire thing would get swallowed up in the media and with locals by Buckeye basketball or Buckeye football or Buckeye horticultural championships. There isn't a school within close enough proximity to Columbus that could anchor such an endeavor. You know what, the more I think about it, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the MAC does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I could handle the MAC moving something to Columbus, which is still fairly well centrally located. Of course, that is just me being selfish since if, for example, the men's tourney were held at Nationwide Arena it would be a 5 minute walk from my work. The MAC will NEVER locate their tournaments in Columbus. It would be a disaster (come to think of it, the move does have MAC written all over it). The entire thing would get swallowed up in the media and with locals by Buckeye basketball or Buckeye football or Buckeye horticultural championships. There isn't a school within close enough proximity to Columbus that could anchor such an endeavor. You know what, the more I think about it, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the MAC does it.If I remember correctly, the MAC tourney has been in Columbus, at Batelle Hall, prior to its time @ the Seagate Center in Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Moving the BB tournament out of Cleveland would be exactly the type of momentum squelching "growth" the MAC has prided itself upon since 1946. I have no doubt this could seriously happen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 I've always felt that Toledo/Detroit are the epicenter of the MAC. Directional Michigan, Toledo, BG, Ball State, Akron, Can't are all an easy drive to Toledo. I think the MAC tourney works well in Cleveland as it is a reasonable distance from Akron, Buffalo, Toledo, BG and EMU. Hell, there were a TON of Buffalo fans at the Q for the championship. The only other major venue, the Palace in Auburn Hills just seems to far of a drive and you lose the excitement of the City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 The decision has been madeGoing back to an 8-team format, both men and women in the Q. This feels like a step backwards. The women are still presented as a sideshow, they're still going to have scheduling problems with very early and late start times, and the teams that don't get byes will look even worse than they do now because they will be viewed as "not good enough to get straight to Cleveland" and the bottom 4 teams will be even worse off than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 It is official - 8 teams in Cleveland. I love it. Driving to downtown Cleveland 4-out-of-5 days is just too much. Thursday/Friday/Saturday is great.Additionally - The upper seeds should be at home in front of a decent crowd. And the #12 seed should not get the benefit of a neutral court.The MAC does something right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 The two-year "short-term remedy" may or may not be the best for the MAC overall. But it's not bad for the Zips. While we may hope and believe the team will be strong enough to secure one of the top four seeds and be unaffected by the change, if the Zips should slip to a 5th through 8th seed, we get the advantage of an extra home game instead of an extra date at the Q. If they somehow slip to a 9th through 12th seed and end up with an extra road game, the location would be a minor point in our overall shock over how a team with so much potential could fall so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 The two-year "short-term remedy" may or may not be the best for the MAC overall. But it's not bad for the Zips. While we may hope and believe the team will be strong enough to secure one of the top four seeds and be unaffected by the change, if the Zips should slip to a 5th through 8th seed, we get the advantage of an extra home game instead of an extra date at the Q. If they somehow slip to a 9th through 12th seed and end up with an extra road game, the location would be a minor point in our overall shock over how a team with so much potential could fall so far.exactly. I like this plan a lot... less trips to cleveland and offers those lower-ranked schools a chance to have 1 big game at home at the end of the season.cant believe im saying it, but i think the MAC actually did do something that made sense for once... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/in..._insider_7.htmlKD is calling this a step back.There are also some stadium tidbits, like season tix being way below projections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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