ksu sucks Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Judge for yourself. Mind you, she's speaking to a general of our military. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/200...d_not_maam.htmlPolitical affiliation aside, this is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandzip Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Wow, we're really digging for topics now... Is it football season yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Judge for yourself. Mind you, she's speaking to a general of our military. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/200...d_not_maam.htmlPolitical affiliation aside, this is ridiculous.I almost couldn't believe it when I first heard about it. To me, it's sickening. And the libs in Cali just keep electing her to office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 who cares?If I was the general, I'd be like "okay no problem, Senator".If she has a hangup about titles, it wouldn't be the first. Some professional women also have a hangup about titles. They are afraid that the vestiges of patriarchal dominant culture precludes many men from addressing them as Doctor so-and-so. Most of the time, it's probably not a warranted fear, but you know, you'll have your issues.What i find funny about Boxer is the "I worked so hard..." comment.A doctor who goes through 7 years of school and years of internship/residency worked hard.A politician who comes out through the ranks backed by party machines? Not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksu sucks Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 What i find funny about Boxer is the "I worked so hard..." comment.A doctor who goes through 7 years of school and years of internship/residency worked hard.A politician who comes out through the ranks backed by party machines? Not so much.And mind you, she said that to a main who put his life on the line so she can sit up and there and talk. Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaroo Craig Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 When a military person refers to someone as sir or ma'am, they are giving that person the upmost respect.Since she has a "D" after her title, the only work she had to do was lobby within her party to get the nomination. After that, the sheeple in California took care of the rest. Californians, who have a large contingent of illeagals voting, always vote for D's without even knowing what it is they are supporting. These people are voting to slash their own necks, along with everyone elses, and don't even realize it. In the words of the great one, Mark Levin, "Drones". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 CRAZY, Senator. Elections have consequences :blink: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Honestly, this thing didn't bother me at first.But the more I think about it, the more it bothers me.These representatives are elected to SERVER THE PEOPLE.They may hold distinguished and honorable positions, but inevitably, what this woman is doing is saying that she is better than everyone else.Those Senators hold hearings and they want to intimidate those who testify. They demand prestige like some sort of despot.I find it distasteful the more I think about it. Those representatives are there to serve the people. Not necessarily vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Ok, I wasn't going to say anything.People are saying "she's a servant of the people" yes and so is the general. And there is certain rank that goes along with government position. She has more rank than he does. Like it or not. Additionally this was a senate hearing. That basically means all of the senators involved are now magistrates and hold even more authority than they normally do. So yes, she had every right to look into that General's eyes and say "you will address me as Senator Boxer". If you are in a court room and say sir or ma'am to a judge. They will correct you in the same manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 In civilian work, military, or politics, people don't respect or follow titles. Your title may give you privelage, entitlement, or command respect, but no one respects or follows a title. They may fear the title but not follow or respect it. They follow knowledgeable, couragous, and hardworking individuals like Army Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh.She is certainly no lady. While her position commands the respect of "Ma'am", she deserves little in the way of personal or professional respect. Her arrogance and ignorance is telling.I am sure Brig. Gen. Walsh worked just as hard as her to earn his rank. While she may have worked hard to be elected (or received enough funds from PACs), does she know how hard Americans are working to bail out her state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips fan Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I guess I don't see the issue. She is a United States Senator and wants to be called as such. Ok? She is entitled to correct someone and asked that she be addressed as such. I don't think she is out of line or disrespectful of the general. I agree with the courtroom anology, it is her title in that forum and should be addressed as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksu sucks Posted June 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Ok, I wasn't going to say anything.People are saying "she's a servant of the people" yes and so is the general. And there is certain rank that goes along with government position. She has more rank than he does. Like it or not. Additionally this was a senate hearing. That basically means all of the senators involved are now magistrates and hold even more authority than they normally do. So yes, she had every right to look into that General's eyes and say "you will address me as Senator Boxer". If you are in a court room and say sir or ma'am to a judge. They will correct you in the same manner.Excelent point. So then it makes me wonder if Senator Boxer referred to the general by his own formal title when she adressed him.I don't really care. She just comes off as petty, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 honestly, she should give the general the respect he earned and deserved through his years of service in the military. Calling him out on something as petty as a "title" is derogatory to the entire military. I couldnt care less how she "earned" her title, but I can sure as hell guarantee it wasnt even 1/4 as much of a personal sacrifice as serving in the military was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 wow a liberal did something stupid and disrespectful....what's new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redleg2Signal Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 As a captain in the Army and currently a battery commander in Iraq right now, I have a little experience on this issue. By the BG calling her "ma'am," he automatically confers respect and seniority in this situation. I think she shows a little naivete regarding the military culture of which many of her constituents particpate on the number of military installations in her own state and abroad. It may have taken a lot of hard work to get to where she sits, but the general also worked 25-30 years for his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 It's quite obvious that most of the board is male, from the inappropriate title of this thread to the comments diminishing a real concern for professional women everywhere. She was obviously ignorant in military protocol of titles and what is considered respectful and what is not, however she is doing nothing but asserting herself by asking to be referred to by her title. Whether she worked for that title or it was handed to her, it doesn't matter. It is her title and she has every right to ask to be called using that title. If it was another man doing this it would be fine, but since it's a woman asserting herself she becomes a bitch. That's a bunch of bull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 It's quite obvious that most of the board is male, from the inappropriate title of this thread to the comments diminishing a real concern for professional women everywhere. She was obviously ignorant in military protocol of titles and what is considered respectful and what is not, however she is doing nothing but asserting herself by asking to be referred to by her title. Whether she worked for that title or it was handed to her, it doesn't matter. It is her title and she has every right to ask to be called using that title. If it was another man doing this it would be fine, but since it's a woman asserting herself she becomes a bitch. That's a bunch of bull.I basically said all that (see my first post) and as I said there, I find it understandable (except I revised my feeling in my second post because of the way she did it, IE interrupting him condescendingly) but I don't think it means she isn't a bitch. If a male senator did the same thing, he'd be a bitch too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 It's quite obvious that most of the board is male, from the inappropriate title of this thread to the comments diminishing a real concern for professional women everywhere. She was obviously ignorant in military protocol of titles and what is considered respectful and what is not, however she is doing nothing but asserting herself by asking to be referred to by her title. Whether she worked for that title or it was handed to her, it doesn't matter. It is her title and she has every right to ask to be called using that title. If it was another man doing this it would be fine, but since it's a woman asserting herself she becomes a bitch. That's a bunch of bull.Pimptastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIPCODE Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 It's quite obvious that most of the board is male, from the inappropriate title of this thread to the comments diminishing a real concern for professional women everywhere. She was obviously ignorant in military protocol of titles and what is considered respectful and what is not, however she is doing nothing but asserting herself by asking to be referred to by her title. Whether she worked for that title or it was handed to her, it doesn't matter. It is her title and she has every right to ask to be called using that title. If it was another man doing this it would be fine, but since it's a woman asserting herself she becomes a bitch. That's a bunch of bull.Pimptastic.Again with you right wing nuts! Had she called the General "Mr. Walsh" you would be going nuts about that too. Hypocricy seems to be a way of life for you people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UADavid Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Time to lock this thread. People get mad and it isn't relevant to this forum. Moderators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksu sucks Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Time to lock this thread. People get mad and it isn't relevant to this forum. Moderators?Yeah, this is way too off topic for the off topic forum.Go ahead and lock it. But at least give a relevant reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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