GoZips Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 The Zips will participate in the Glenn Wilkes Classic to be held in Daytona Beach, FLNovember 19 through the 22nd.While the first game is actually a home game verses Austin Peay, the first game in Daytona Beach will be against the North Carolina State Wolfpack.Two more games pit the Zips against Howard and Drake.I suppose most of us would rather have a tournament style as opposed to pre-determinedopponents. Count me as one.Recent check of airfare shows seats available R/T for less than $260. Quote
Dave in Green Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Games against the likes of NC State and Drake are good for the Zips anywhere, anyhow. Quote
johnnyzip84 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Is Howard bringing their band? Seriously, this is very good news! Go Zips!! Quote
skip-zip Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Games against the likes of NC State and Drake are good for the Zips anywhere, anyhow.Ahhh..someone in absolutely the right mindframe. Quote
ksu sucks Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 "We’ve done a little research and *think* that we have identified a pool of possible participants in this year’s tournament. They are as follows: Akron, Auburn, Austin Peay, UCF, Drake, Howard, IUPUI, Niagara."http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/a...wilkes-tourney/This would obviously include NC State. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 If we beat NC State, can we get a: "JUST - LIKE - FOOT - BALL!" chant going?Also - Drake will be a great measuring stick of the Zips progress towards becoming a "high-mid-major." Quote
Quickzips Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Have to like this tournament better than last years Legends Classic. The Legends Classic basically had Pitt as a draw and not much else. This deal has a pretty decent NC State team, a good high mid-major in Drake, an SEC team (albeit not a very good one) in Auburn, and some nice mid-majors in Niagra, UCF, Austin Peay and IUPUI. A far cry from the Urbanas, EKUs and Fairleigh Dickinsons of the Legends Classic. Now we need to combine this with a well rounded OOC schedule and maybe give ourselves a shot at some at large consideration next season. Quote
BirdZip Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 The Zips will participate in the Glenn Wilkes Classic to be held in Daytona Beach, FLNovember 19 through the 22nd.While the first game is actually a home game verses Austin Peay, the first game in Daytona Beach will be against the North Carolina State Wolfpack.Two more games pit the Zips against Howard and Drake.I suppose most of us would rather have a tournament style as opposed to pre-determinedopponents. Count me as one.Recent check of airfare shows seats available R/T for less than $260.Do you have a link or is this insider info? I don't see anywhere online where the field has been announced.I recall last year claims that the Zips would be playing in a Mississippi State tournament (or something like that) and we end up in the Legends Classic, so I'll hold off on making my reservations until it's official. Quote
GoZips Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Posted June 26, 2009 Do you have a link or is this insider info? I don't see anywhere online where the field has been announced.I recall last year claims that the Zips would be playing in a Mississippi State tournament (or something like that) and we end up in the Legends Classic, so I'll hold off on making my reservations until it's official.Let's call it "insider" information since it came from the Zips scheduling coach (Rick McFadden). Quote
zippyman23 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Also - Drake will be a great measuring stick of the Zips progress towards becoming a "high-mid-major."Not exactly. Drake is far from being a "high mid-major". Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Also - Drake will be a great measuring stick of the Zips progress towards becoming a "high-mid-major."Not exactly. Drake is far from being a "high mid-major"."Far from becoming a high-mid major?" Your argument is convincing...tough to find fault in any facet of your analysis. But I'll try.If you consider UA a solid mid-major, then what do you call Drake?2008 NCAA tourney - Lost on a miracle 3-pointer at the buzzer to Western K.e.n.t.ucky (who advanced to the sweet 16 that year).2008 - Won the MVC (a basketball conference light years ahead of the MAC)2008 - Beat a Top 10 team.2008 - Ranked as high as 13th in the national polls.I'd wear a Golden F.l.a.s.h. mascot uniform for a month to accomplish 1/2 of what Drake in '08.They were 17-15 last season, but played a very difficult schedule. Although they lost some key players, and their coach to the Big East, they still received a post-season bid. If you don't see playing an upper-echelon MVC program as a great measuring stick of the Zips progress towards becoming a high-mid major...you need to do some homework. Quote
zippyman23 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Also - Drake will be a great measuring stick of the Zips progress towards becoming a "high-mid-major."Not exactly. Drake is far from being a "high mid-major"."Far from becoming a high-mid major?" Your argument is convincing...tough to find fault in any facet of your analysis. But I'll try.If you consider UA a solid mid-major, then what do you call Drake?2008 NCAA tourney - Lost on a miracle 3-pointer at the buzzer to Western K.e.n.t.ucky (who advanced to the sweet 16 that year).2008 - Won the MVC (a basketball conference light years ahead of the MAC)2008 - Beat a Top 10 team.2008 - Ranked as high as 13th in the national polls.I'd wear a Golden F.l.a.s.h. mascot uniform for a month to accomplish 1/2 of what Drake in '08.They were 17-15 last season, but played a very difficult schedule. Although they lost some key players, and their coach to the Big East, they still received a post-season bid. If you don't see playing an upper-echelon MVC program as a great measuring stick of the Zips progress towards becoming a high-mid major...you need to do some homework.One year doesn't make them a "high mid major" or even an upper-echelon MVC program. I think you are the one who needs to do some homework.Drake Basketball History Lesson1971 was last time Drake made the NCAA tournament before '07-'08.'87-'88 thru '05-'06 seasons: Drake did not have one single winning season. Not a single one. 18 straight years.'06-'07: (17-15) 7th out of 10 in MVC'07-'08: (28-5) 1st in MVC; Great Season, Davis leaves after one season for Providence'08-'09: (17-16) 8th out of 10 in MVC; Without Davis Drake starts on their way back to their normal selfSo yes, Drake is far from being a "high mid-major". Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 One year off a Top 15 ranking, I'm not ready to throw dirt on Drake. They have the runner-up Michigan Mr. Basketball on the way, and it will be the second year running the new coach's system. 17 wins in the MVC is like 22 wins in the MAC. Drake should be a solid team in '09-10. Quote
zippyman23 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 One year off a Top 15 ranking, I'm not ready to throw dirt on Drake. They have the runner-up Michigan Mr. Basketball on the way, and it will be the second year running the new coach's system. 17 wins in the MVC is like 22 wins in the MAC. Drake should be a solid team in '09-10.That's fine. I'm not saying its going to be an easy game, but Drake isn't the team the were two years ago. They only have one guy left that played in their tournament game and are losing 2 out of their 3 top scorers from last year. Drake will be projected to finish in the bottom half of the MVC, so a loss to them would be disappointing. Quote
Zip Watcher Posted June 27, 2009 Report Posted June 27, 2009 Drake had a great mid-major season in 2007-08.I'd rather have a great mid-major program than one great mid-major season. B) Go Zips! Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 27, 2009 Report Posted June 27, 2009 I'd rather have a great mid-major program than one great mid-major season.You can't have two great mid-major seasons until you've had one. Drake 1. Zips 0.I like upping the level of competition. If the Zips want to step up we need to to play the MVC, Colonial and upper-tier Horizon League schools rather than the OVC's of the world. Quote
Zip Watcher Posted June 27, 2009 Report Posted June 27, 2009 Without looking it up to be certain, I'd bet that the Zips have more post season appearances, more post season victories and exactly the same number of NCAA tournament wins than Drake has over the last 5 years.Go Zips! Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 27, 2009 Report Posted June 27, 2009 Without looking it up to be certain, I'd bet that the Zips have more post season appearances, more post season victories and exactly the same number of NCAA tournament wins than Drake has over the last 5 years.Go Zips!Drake's beaten more Top 20 teams, and actually been ranked in the Top 20 itself within the last 2 years. They aren't exactly MAC West material.I wonder if Drake fans care as much about Drake basketball as Zips fans seem to care?At least when we do end up playing them this November ZipsNation will be up-to-speed regarding their program's recent history. Quote
Dave in Green Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 The Zips have 0-2 career records against both Drake and NC State, so we still have something to prove before getting too cocky.The important thing is to continuously increase strength of schedule and reduce the number of cupcakes. Neither Drake nor NC State have been consistently dominant in their respective conferences. But the ACC is obviously superior to the MAC, and the MVC is at least somewhat stronger overall. So even fair teams from these conferences will provide better than average challenges as the Zips continue to grow a more competitive non-conference schedule. Quote
ZZZips Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 Friday, November 20th vs NC StateSaturday, November 21st vs DrakeSunday, November 22nd vs HowardWebsite is not completely updated yet (full tournament schedule not updated) but here it is. http://glennwilkes.com/Click on the "2009 GWC Info" button for package prices. Quote
Dr Z Posted June 30, 2009 Report Posted June 30, 2009 ...and actually been ranked in the Top 20 itself within the last 2 years.If KD wants to fill those empty seats at the JAR (like he states over the radio after the games), getting ranked in the season should do it.I hope that the NCAA tourney cup of coffee carries over and shows up in JAR attendance, but we'll see... My fear (for attendance) is that we "peaked" at the end of the season (for attendance purposes)....I'm not sure my point is coming across as I read this back. Quote
BirdZip Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Thursdsay, November 19th vs NC StateFriday, November 20th vs DrakeSaturday, November 22nd vs HowardWebsite is not completely updated yet (full tournament schedule not updated) but here it is. http://glennwilkes.com/Click on the "2009 GWC Info" button for package prices.Anybody have any idea how you actually "win" the tournament if all games are preprogrammed?Is the third game Saturday or the 22nd? Quote
ZZZips Posted July 3, 2009 Report Posted July 3, 2009 Thursdsay, November 19th vs NC StateFriday, November 20th vs DrakeSaturday, November 22nd vs HowardWebsite is not completely updated yet (full tournament schedule not updated) but here it is. http://glennwilkes.com/Click on the "2009 GWC Info" button for package prices.Anybody have any idea how you actually "win" the tournament if all games are preprogrammed?Is the third game Saturday or the 22nd?I rechecked the schedule and they have made a change. The tournament still opens on Thursday but we play NC State on Friday, Drake on Saturday and Howard on Sunday. I have no idea who is playing on Thursday in the new setup. Quote
ZachTheZip Posted July 3, 2009 Report Posted July 3, 2009 The home game against Austin Peay is part of this tournament. Quote
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