Location of Arena

[Dave in Green]

I would like to suggest the moderators close this thread. It is not serving the needs of Zipsnation and has devolved into a spiteful attack on anyone who disagrees with the protagonists. Please end this. It's way below the standards we want to project. End it!

One thread on this subject has already been closed for the same reason. If threads are locked every time one person is perceived to be stirring up problems, then what is there to stop one person from ending any discussion they want on Zips Nation simply by deliberately stirring up problems?The proper way to deal with a problem like this is to hold individuals responsible for what they post here. The overwhelming number of civil posters on these forums should not have their freedom to discuss appropriate subjects infringed upon by the inappropriate behavior of a single poster.

[Jake]

In today's ABJ: Skyway restaurant plan in holding pattern By Jim Carney Beacon Journal staff writer POSTED: 01:26 p.m. EDT, Aug 04, 2009 Several months after a sign went up announcing a new Skyway Drive-In restaurant was planned for East Exchange and Spicer streets, in the shadow of a new University of Akron football stadium, no work has been done on the site.And it's not clear whether the plan will ever move forward.The sign announcing the restaurant is still there.But city of Akron Planning Director John Moore said no drawings or plans for the project have been filed with the city.Steve Large, owner of Skyway, said he does not know what is going on with the site.Attorney Tom Bartlebaugh said earlier this year he planned to build a Skyway franchise with both outdoor space for cars and indoor seating. He has said he hoped to break ground on the restaurant in May and planned for it to be ready for the stadium's scheduled opening next month.It was to be the first Skyway with indoor seating.The first game at the $61.6 million stadium will be Sept. 12 against Morgan State.Bartlebaugh did not return phone calls for comment.Large said he has heard that the property by InfoCision Stadium-Summa Field may be the subject of discussions with UA.I am still holding out hope’’ that a restaurant will be built there, Large said.Laura Massey, a UA spokeswoman, said ‘‘there have been no discussions that I'm aware of about the University of Akron purchasing the tract of land across from InfoCision Stadium-Summa Field.’’The drive-in was to be built on the site of a former car wash, Subway restaurant and law office.The franchise, if it is built, would be the third Skyway restaurant. Skyway, in addition to its first restaurant on West Market Street in Fairlawn, and another company owned location in Medina, has franchise restaurants in Green and Stow.Looks like UA may have the same location in mind that I have for the new UA on-campus Arena. It's a perfect spot with plenty of room and there will be no need to disrupt any Greek Housing.

[ksu sucks]

Gee, I wonder why ohio.com won't let anyone comment on this story? It's pretty sad when there's so many negative opinions of the university within this city that the local newspaper won't allow people to comment on it. I don't blame the ABJ.

[Jake]

Gee, I wonder why ohio.com won't let anyone comment on this story? It's pretty sad when there's so many negative opinions of the university within this city that the local newspaper won't allow people to comment on it. I don't blame the ABJ.

You may comment on the story about SkyWay on Ohio.com. Give it another try. Initially the story did not allow comments but I believe at the time it was due to its recent posting

[Dave in Green]

Interesting story. Thanks for sharing. That would be a good location for an on-campus arena.

[zen]

Looks like UA may have the same location in mind that I have for the new UA on-campus Arena. It's a perfect spot with plenty of room and there will be no need to disrupt any Greek Housing.

I don't like that spot for an arena.I think it does have the merit of being next to the stadium... and you often see such big and little brother pairings of stadiums and arenas.... but I really loved the plans I saw of greek village. Greek village would have added an very distinct campus residence sense of character far beyond the clustering of dormitories that you see in most campi.An arena there would necessitate using space up to at least vine street, nearly chopping Greek Village in half.I would be all for it if we had no other available real estate.

[ZachTheZip]

Here's an idea: rent out Canal Park as the home stadium for the baseball team, and build an arena where the baseball field is. It's a bigger area than the JAR's footprint and it's on Exchange. Two huge facility upgrades for two sports. It would help baseball's recruiting and if the marketing was there it would boost attendance (we can't even take attendance at the current baseball field thanks to not having any seats or even a gate) and give it a big-time feel like at southern schools.

[Blue & Gold]

That's not an entirely bad idea, as the current baseball facility is AWFUL. Leasing Canal Park wouldn't have to be a once-for-all move, as that would be a GIANT stadium for Zips baseball. But it could be until we build a better baseball facility SOUTH of Exchange. (I'm really all for tearing down as much of the ghetto south of Exchange as possible.) I know their thinking behind keeping the athletic facilities in one location, but reallyan the current spot is just too crammed to build both a nice soccer stadium and a nice baseball stadium. An arena may fit though!

[WinZip]

I like the open green space in the area so I would rather UA keeps expanding to places that need revitalization. Seems we could have the same discussion about a downtown baseball field anyway.

[Dave in Green]

If I understand correctly, the difference is that, unlike a potential downtown basketball/multipurpose facility, sharing the downtown baseball field would be a temporary solution until a new baseball field could be created on an existing or new on-campus location. This is another creative concept for building a new basketball arena on campus that deserves consideration. Ideally, the longterm solution for baseball would also result in a new, improved facility on campus. But it's pretty clear that you can't keep creating newer, larger, facilities on limited, existing UA real estate. The campus needs to be expanded in an intelligent way that benefits both UA and the City of Akron.

[bandzip]

From my experience quite a few of the people at baseball games are students who were just wandering around looking for something to do and happened to hear the PA announcer. I've done it three times, and there couldn't have been many more than 50 people any time I've seen them play. Moving them anywhere out of the middle of campus might be a bad idea.

[zippy5]

From my experience quite a few of the people at baseball games are students who were just wandering around looking for something to do and happened to hear the PA announcer. I've done it three times, and there couldn't have been many more than 50 people any time I've seen them play. Moving them anywhere out of the middle of campus might be a bad idea.

I would watch them at canal park. i wouldn't at the field they play at, at least not often. i love baseball, i've played for 16 years, but my high school field has more seating, nicer dugouts, and our facilities weren't even the cream of the crop in our district. the place sucks quite frankly, and i'm surprised they get any D-1 recruits to begin with. I think it's incredibly stupid not to share Canal park.

[scottditzen]

To me Canal Park is a no brainer.Let the current baseball area revert to student use. So much of the public space on Lee Jackson Field has been lost to football and softball.

From my experience quite a few of the people at baseball games are students who were just wandering around looking for something to do and happened to hear the PA announcer. I've done it three times, and there couldn't have been many more than 50 people any time I've seen them play. Moving them anywhere out of the middle of campus might be a bad idea.

I would watch them at canal park. i wouldn't at the field they play at, at least not often. i love baseball, i've played for 16 years, but my high school field has more seating, nicer dugouts, and our facilities weren't even the cream of the crop in our district. the place sucks quite frankly, and i'm surprised they get any D-1 recruits to begin with. I think it's incredibly stupid not to share Canal park.

[akronad]

I find the use of Canal Park an intriguing idea. However, the field is not ready to play until April 1. Also, the facility is under the ouwner ship of the City. When the Aero's are not playing, the City can let or rent it to anyone they see fit. They would continue to permit a weekend of Akron Public Schools games as well as the Hoban/SVSM game and the City Series championship. There would need to be lots of coordination of schedules, but it could be done.

[RootforRoo44]

That's not an entirely bad idea, as the current baseball facility is AWFUL. Leasing Canal Park wouldn't have to be a once-for-all move, as that would be a GIANT stadium for Zips baseball. But it could be until we build a better baseball facility SOUTH of Exchange. (I'm really all for tearing down as much of the ghetto south of Exchange as possible.) I know their thinking behind keeping the athletic facilities in one location, but reallyan the current spot is just too crammed to build both a nice soccer stadium and a nice baseball stadium. An arena may fit though!

I wouldn't call the baseball facility "awful" but it isn't top notch enough for a D1 big school like Akron. One thing that field does have is a glorious infield. Very smooth and very nice to play on.

[Jake]

So far the score at Zipsnation.org is 50 votes for an on-campus arena against 14 for an off-campus arena. Seems perfectly clear to most peple where the new UA arena should be and that is on the UA campus. Duhhhhh, imagine that, a university arena on a university campus. Seems like only in Akron such a concept would turn into a controversy.

[tbozeglav]

So far the score at Zipsnation.org is 50 votes for an on-campus arena against 14 for an off-campus arena. Seems perfectly clear to most peple where the new UA arena should be and that is on the UA campus. Duhhhhh, imagine that, a university arena on a university campus. Seems like only in Akron such a concept would turn into a controversy.

bomb planted.../thread troll is obvious

[zippy5]

Give it up dude, no one's replied to this thread in a week. you beat it to death, and you're still going.

[WinZip]

So far the score at Zipsnation.org is 50 votes for an on-campus arena against 14 for an off-campus arena. Seems perfectly clear to most peple where the new UA arena should be and that is on the UA campus. Duhhhhh, imagine that, a university arena on a university campus. Seems like only in Akron such a concept would turn into a controversy.

Ideally id have the arena on wheels so it could move wherever I go.

[Jake]

Give it up dude, no one's replied to this thread in a week. you beat it to death, and you're still going.

You just did and BTW, Canal Park is a bad idea for UA to take over. One big reason: It's not on campus nor can it ever look like it is on campus. End of discussion.So far now: 51 for on campus 12 against on campus

[g-mann17]

Give it up dude, no one's replied to this thread in a week. you beat it to death, and you're still going.

You just did and BTW, Canal Park is a bad idea for UA to take over. One big reason: It's not on campus nor can it ever look like it is on campus. End of discussion.So far now: 51 for on campus 12 against on campus

Why do I even bother, but what the heck. I don't know what math you are doing but...Rec center parking lot [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusKaiser building location [ 3 ] [4.55%] DowntownCentral-Hower location [ 21 ] [31.82%] Off CampusLocation south of Exchange St. [ 6 ] [9.09%] Off CampusLocation North of campus [ 3 ] [4.55%] Off CampusMemorial Hall location [ 8 ] [12.12%] On CampusLocation east of campus [ 1 ] [1.52%] Off CampusOther location downtown [ 12 ] [18.18%] DowntownOther location on campus [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusFrom my calculationsOn Campus = 20Off Campus = 37Downtonw = 15So, off campus it is. I mean shouldn't you stick to your guns "conspicuously in the middle of campus"?Anyway, I just did this to point out the way you continue to skew facts and so that I can read the huge hissy fit you will have. Otherwise I and probably everyone else is pretty much done with this thread until we get another sound bite in about 2 - 3 months.

[Blue & Gold]

Lol. Also, when I voted, I voted for the wrong location (a hanging chad, if you will?) Lol. I voted for, I believe the option was "another location on campus". Idk, it's been far too long now. But anyhow, that was because I didn't know the Kaiser Building was on the lot across from Canal Park. If I could vote over again, I'd cast my lot for that location.

[Jake]

Give it up dude, no one's replied to this thread in a week. you beat it to death, and you're still going.

You just did and BTW, Canal Park is a bad idea for UA to take over. One big reason: It's not on campus nor can it ever look like it is on campus. End of discussion.So far now: 51 for on campus 12 against on campus

Why do I even bother, but what the heck. I don't know what math you are doing but...Rec center parking lot [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusKaiser building location [ 3 ] [4.55%] DowntownCentral-Hower location [ 21 ] [31.82%] Off CampusLocation south of Exchange St. [ 6 ] [9.09%] Off CampusLocation North of campus [ 3 ] [4.55%] Off CampusMemorial Hall location [ 8 ] [12.12%] On CampusLocation east of campus [ 1 ] [1.52%] Off CampusOther location downtown [ 12 ] [18.18%] DowntownOther location on campus [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusFrom my calculationsOn Campus = 20Off Campus = 37Downtonw = 15So, off campus it is. I mean shouldn't you stick to your guns "conspicuously in the middle of campus"?Anyway, I just did this to point out the way you continue to skew facts and so that I can read the huge hissy fit you will have. Otherwise I and probably everyone else is pretty much done with this thread until we get another sound bite in about 2 - 3 months.

Look who the lair is. You just did this because you know you are toying with the facts. Central Hower, South of exchange and north of campus and east of campus are all soon to be on campus. Now take a look at another fact. The area east of the stadium which will soon be on campus is perfect for an on-campus arena. The only person having the hissy fit is you.

[WinZip]

Give it up dude, no one's replied to this thread in a week. you beat it to death, and you're still going.

You just did and BTW, Canal Park is a bad idea for UA to take over. One big reason: It's not on campus nor can it ever look like it is on campus. End of discussion.So far now: 51 for on campus 12 against on campus

Why do I even bother, but what the heck. I don't know what math you are doing but...Rec center parking lot [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusKaiser building location [ 3 ] [4.55%] DowntownCentral-Hower location [ 21 ] [31.82%] Off CampusLocation south of Exchange St. [ 6 ] [9.09%] Off CampusLocation North of campus [ 3 ] [4.55%] Off CampusMemorial Hall location [ 8 ] [12.12%] On CampusLocation east of campus [ 1 ] [1.52%] Off CampusOther location downtown [ 12 ] [18.18%] DowntownOther location on campus [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusFrom my calculationsOn Campus = 20Off Campus = 37Downtonw = 15So, off campus it is. I mean shouldn't you stick to your guns "conspicuously in the middle of campus"?Anyway, I just did this to point out the way you continue to skew facts and so that I can read the huge hissy fit you will have. Otherwise I and probably everyone else is pretty much done with this thread until we get another sound bite in about 2 - 3 months.

Look who the lair is. You just did this because you know you are toying with the facts. Central Hower, South of exchange and north of campus and east of campus are all soon to be on campus. Now take a look at another fact. The area east of the stadium which will soon be on campus is perfect for an on-campus arena. The only person having the hissy fit is you.

...is this what you do for a living?the ideal location of an arena and the realistic location is very very different. If we don't let this die soon there will be nothing to talk about when an arena project is brought up.

[bandzip]

Give it up dude, no one's replied to this thread in a week. you beat it to death, and you're still going.

You just did and BTW, Canal Park is a bad idea for UA to take over. One big reason: It's not on campus nor can it ever look like it is on campus. End of discussion.So far now: 51 for on campus 12 against on campus

Why do I even bother, but what the heck. I don't know what math you are doing but...Rec center parking lot [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusKaiser building location [ 3 ] [4.55%] DowntownCentral-Hower location [ 21 ] [31.82%] Off CampusLocation south of Exchange St. [ 6 ] [9.09%] Off CampusLocation North of campus [ 3 ] [4.55%] Off CampusMemorial Hall location [ 8 ] [12.12%] On CampusLocation east of campus [ 1 ] [1.52%] Off CampusOther location downtown [ 12 ] [18.18%] DowntownOther location on campus [ 6 ] [9.09%] On CampusFrom my calculationsOn Campus = 20Off Campus = 37Downtonw = 15So, off campus it is. I mean shouldn't you stick to your guns "conspicuously in the middle of campus"?Anyway, I just did this to point out the way you continue to skew facts and so that I can read the huge hissy fit you will have. Otherwise I and probably everyone else is pretty much done with this thread until we get another sound bite in about 2 - 3 months.

Look who the lair is. You just did this because you know you are toying with the facts. Central Hower, South of exchange and north of campus and east of campus are all soon to be on campus. Now take a look at another fact. The area east of the stadium which will soon be on campus is perfect for an on-campus arena. The only person having the hissy fit is you.