Dear Band Director

[UAZip0510]

After thinking over Saturday's events, I came to the realization that only three things need fixed to make InfoCision perfect. 1) More staff at the food service place (did you see those lines?)2) The Team Shop to be open (I am SHOCKED it wasn't ready...UA lost a looooot of money there)3) The band Apologies to any band members that post here. I'm not trying to rip you, and know you put a great deal of hard work into your band. But I'll be blunt - the pregame and halftime routines have absolutely zero energy. I'm somewhat surprised at the showing year after year from our band. I'm not sure if anyone cares or if this will be well received, but I do have some thoughts.1) Pick your feet/knees upYou have 27,000+ roaring in anticipation...and the band comes in slide-stepping with absolutely no energy. This not only do what it needed to do - increase the energy - but actually seemed to bring it down a little. 2) Pick up the energyAside from adding some energy to your steps, bring it with your music as well. Play it loud, play it like you mean it! And let's see some horn hits...let the crowd know you love what you're doing...get them pumped to see their team!3) Lose the sheet musicMany high schools don't use sheet music...why is a college doing so? Memorize the music. Using sheet music prevents you from stepping high, doing horn hits, moving as you play. And trust me - fans would sacrifice the quality of the music a hair if they got more energy in return. The announcer during the band performance was practically begging people to make noise. And while some may, I don't blame the fans here. Give them reason to cheer, to stand up, to get pumped. Again, not trying to bash - we appreciate you and the work you put in - I just think that some changes to how the band operates should join the rest of the changes that are or already have taken place at UA. I found some links below - this is a high school band I found on youtube, and I'd be interested to ask other non-band members...who would you rather watch at halftime?

GO ZIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You mean an example like this?

or for those who think no bands do this anymore in the MAC...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O7EUXidnQ0

[ZippyTuba11]

After thinking over Saturday's events, I came to the realization that only3) Lose the sheet music

They did

[tbozeglav]

You mean an example like this?

or for those who think no bands do this anymore in the MAC...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O7EUXidnQ0

YES

[Zip22]

1) Marching the high step is TOTALLY, COMPLETELY different than the way they march now. The step they do now is actually very difficult to learn to do well, and it would probably be near impossible for them to change without at least a summer's worth of rehearsals. 2) Agree. The music is, a lot of the time, quite lackluster. I think it has a lot to do with the selections.3) High school bands (good ones at least) don't play with sheet music because they learn ONE show for a season, so there is only one set of music to learn. College bands learn a new show for every home game, thus increasing exponentially the amount they [would] have to memorize. I am not/was not in the band, but I was in one of the best in Ohio in High School. Don't knock the band unless you have experience. What they do is A LOT harder than it looks

[ZippyTuba11]

1) Marching the high step is TOTALLY, COMPLETELY different than the way they march now. The step they do now is actually very difficult to learn to do well, and it would probably be near impossible for them to change without at least a summer's worth of rehearsals. 2) Agree. The music is, a lot of the time, quite lackluster. I think it has a lot to do with the selections.3) High school bands (good ones at least) don't play with sheet music because they learn ONE show for a season, so there is only one set of music to learn. College bands learn a new show for every home game, thus increasing exponentially the amount they [would] have to memorize. I am not/was not in the band, but I was in one of the best in Ohio in High School. Don't knock the band unless you have experience. What they do is A LOT harder than it looks

1) If you are referring to the glide "corps" step, it is not difficult to learn. It's the easiest form to make precisely, that's why the drum corps do it.2) Ditto3) My high school was all memory. Different show every home game. It's not that hard, you just have to put in the time and effort.

[UAZip0510]

1) Marching the high step is TOTALLY, COMPLETELY different than the way they march now. The step they do now is actually very difficult to learn to do well, and it would probably be near impossible for them to change without at least a summer's worth of rehearsals. 2) Agree. The music is, a lot of the time, quite lackluster. I think it has a lot to do with the selections.3) High school bands (good ones at least) don't play with sheet music because they learn ONE show for a season, so there is only one set of music to learn. College bands learn a new show for every home game, thus increasing exponentially the amount they [would] have to memorize. I am not/was not in the band, but I was in one of the best in Ohio in High School. Don't knock the band unless you have experience. What they do is A LOT harder than it looks

In response to #3, that is completely untrue. My high school band did four different shows throughout a year, with different music and routines each show. And all music was memorized. And I do have experience - I was in the band I speak of for all four years...I wouldn't have started this thread if I wasn't speaking with experience. Again, not saying they don't work hard....just being honest in saying that the current band does not get the job done in providing energy to the game and getting our fans pumped for the action on the field.

[bandzip]

1) Pick your feet/knees up2) Pick up the energy3) Lose the sheet music

Dear UAZIP0510,1) You obviously weren't there for pregame, as ALL of pregame is chair step. If you can't find a video I'll post a clip for you. It's already been explained on here several times by countless posters that glide step is what a majority of college marching bands do now for halftime. I understand that some people find it "boring" or "uninteresting" but that's the way it is here at Akron. We did do chairstep for the fight song off the field.2) Trust me, we were playing with energy. That stadium is loud and there were a lot of people. I know every single one of us out there was playing with everything we had. With the pregame drill there were about 140-150 of us out there for pregame so the fact that you can hear us from the back stands with 30,000 people yelling means we were playing "loud" since I'm assuming that's what you mean by energy.3) We didn't use sheet music for pregame or halftime...Just out of curiosity, where were you sitting?

[UAZip0510]

1) Pick your feet/knees up2) Pick up the energy3) Lose the sheet music

Dear UAZIP0510,1) You obviously weren't there for pregame, as ALL of pregame is chair step. If you can't find a video I'll post a clip for you. It's already been explained on here several times by countless posters that glide step is what a majority of college marching bands do now for halftime. I understand that some people find it "boring" or "uninteresting" but that's the way it is here at Akron. We did do chairstep for the fight song off the field.2) Trust me, we were playing with energy. That stadium is loud and there were a lot of people. I know every single one of us out there was playing with everything we had. With the pregame drill there were about 140-150 of us out there for pregame so the fact that you can hear us from the back stands with 30,000 people yelling means we were playing "loud" since I'm assuming that's what you mean by energy.3) We didn't use sheet music for pregame or halftime...Just out of curiosity, where were you sitting?

I was in general admission for this one, but usually sit much closer...and if you didn't use sheet music, I stand corrected. I can tell you that this isn't an opinion formed in one Saturday - I've thought this for a long time...just never posted about it. Energy to me is marching with your knees up, horn hits, etc. And music that is a) Not boring, Not just our fight song. Again, not trying to knock you guys...you do a great job with what the band director has you do. I'm just saying - and being honest when I do - is that the performances during pregame and halftime were not exciting, didn't have energy, and actually quieted the crowd, instead of pumping them up even more for the game. And just because "most other colleges" roll with the glidestep doesn't mean UA's band has to. Watching the video of the 1990 UA band that was posted in this thread made me sick...what I would do to have that kind of pregame/halftime now.

[ejcool27]

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I can personally confirm BOTH the different styles discussed (Corp, or glide style) and High Step both if done well are quite difficult... I think the key points of this thread is how you capture the "Energy" This can be done in many different ways (dynamics, different setups, ...)Good to hear Pre Game is High Step again! One of the threads in this forum, has a great marching A (from the backside)... Looks great, lines nice and straight...Good luck with looking for that something special!!! the new Sousaphones look great!

[bandzip]

1) Pick your feet/knees up2) Pick up the energy3) Lose the sheet music

Dear UAZIP0510,1) You obviously weren't there for pregame, as ALL of pregame is chair step. If you can't find a video I'll post a clip for you. It's already been explained on here several times by countless posters that glide step is what a majority of college marching bands do now for halftime. I understand that some people find it "boring" or "uninteresting" but that's the way it is here at Akron. We did do chairstep for the fight song off the field.2) Trust me, we were playing with energy. That stadium is loud and there were a lot of people. I know every single one of us out there was playing with everything we had. With the pregame drill there were about 140-150 of us out there for pregame so the fact that you can hear us from the back stands with 30,000 people yelling means we were playing "loud" since I'm assuming that's what you mean by energy.3) We didn't use sheet music for pregame or halftime...Just out of curiosity, where were you sitting?

I was in general admission for this one, but usually sit much closer...and if you didn't use sheet music, I stand corrected. I can tell you that this isn't an opinion formed in one Saturday - I've thought this for a long time...just never posted about it. Energy to me is marching with your knees up, horn hits, etc. And music that is a) Not boring, Not just our fight song. Again, not trying to knock you guys...you do a great job with what the band director has you do. I'm just saying - and being honest when I do - is that the performances during pregame and halftime were not exciting, didn't have energy, and actually quieted the crowd, instead of pumping them up even more for the game. And just because "most other colleges" roll with the glidestep doesn't mean UA's band has to. Watching the video of the 1990 UA band that was posted in this thread made me sick...what I would do to have that kind of pregame/halftime now.

I see you're realitively new but for the record we've had this discussion on here several times in the past few years. Search the forums and I'm sure you'll find at least 20 topics on it.For the first game at least, music was gone. The memorization thing is new for this year at the request of many in the band and the return of Mr. Karriker. Music will not be used for pregame all season, but halftime will really depend on how each week goes. For example, we start a new show for the Indiana game Tuesday, as of now we haven't even had a chance to go over the music in rehearsal, and we haven't received drill yet. Unlike highschool where you have band everyday of the week and shows with only a couple moves, we have three, 1.5 hour rehearsals this week and the game on Saturday. If you see music anytime this season, don't panic, we're doing the best we can.I have seen video from both sides of the field for Saturday and I can understand how it seemed unenergetic from the General Admission seats. Those are a long way up there and it is very hard to hear the band. Most of the quieting in the GA section was probably due to people trying to hear the band, from the other side it wasn't a problem at all. I think if you were sitting on the pressbox side of the stadium you would have a very different opinion of at least pregame. You probably noticed that the entire band isn't on the field for pregame, it's designed so if someone is sick or has a family emergency an alternate takes their spot for the game. It also keeps some people who are having problems with the highstep or music from being a distraction on the field, though everyone will march pregame before the end of the season.

[UAZip0510]

You don't have any idea what you are talking about. I am sorry, but you must not have been there because when Ohio's Pride hit the "A" during pregame the cheering was loud. I got a chill sitting in the stadium.

Maybe there was a cloud that momentarily covered the sun and created a breeze, because the performance did nothing to bring chills. No offense, but it sounds like you're either a band member, former band member, or parent of a former/current band member. Again, not knocking these guys...they work hard and I respect tat...but I know my section barely responded to the band, and it didn't seem much better in other parts of the stadium. It's the style that needs changed IMO, not the members of the band.

[zipsbandman]

First off, I love the band, and I think it is a major major part of the whole gameday experience. Some of the greatest football programs in the country are also known for their marching bands and traditions. With that said here is what I took away from the performance.1) First off, you guys looked sharp. The drill was well thought out and was executed pretty well. I liked how you guys formed the zips logo.2)As always, musicality was great....Ohio's Pride never lacks quality3)I liked how everybody in the band did the cheers, and they are always loud.4)Also, the mini bands around the stadium like penn state does to serenade groups of fans was a nice addition.Now...as a former bando and current zips fan, here is what I thought maybe could have been done better.1)I know the tunnel entrance presents some difficulty in terms of doing the entrance that you used to do at the rubber bowl, but I have to admit the old pregame had me jacked for a game. I liked when the tubas and drums strutted out there first to the syncopated cadence. There was an element of suspense there before the rest of the band ran out there. I'd then prefer to hear you march down to the fight song after the fanfare to the fight song. When you take that field we WANT to hear our fight song.2) Numbers.... out of your control I know, but hopefully with the climbing enrollment we can make a 200 piece band. Band seems small to me. All I can say is recruit recruit recruit and show these high school musicians the experience at the INFO. And what happened to the flagline? Down to 4 members? I'd love to see an auxilary unit here at Akron ala LSU's danceline :blink: . Also, a signature move for the drum major? Penn State's does the flip. OSU's does the mace through the goalposts. They really do a good job in firing up their crowds. Lets start our own tradition as opposed to just running out there and twirling.3)This is a biggie... I'd hate to say it but there seemed to be something lacking in energy. I listen to Can't's band and say the same thing and we are so much better than that. I don't know what it is because I know you all give it 110% but there were times during pregame when I didn't even know when to chant because I had a hard time hearing (was on the pressbox side btw), and it didn't really seem the crowd was feeding off the band and we had the students to do it. Different accoustics maybe at the new digs? Maybe the crowd was THAT loud?I know you guys use zipsnation for fan feedback and just thought I'd give my 2 cents here. I'd like to hear some input from members on here in regard to what we're saying.

[UAZip0510]

1) Pick your feet/knees up2) Pick up the energy3) Lose the sheet music

Dear UAZIP0510,1) You obviously weren't there for pregame, as ALL of pregame is chair step. If you can't find a video I'll post a clip for you. It's already been explained on here several times by countless posters that glide step is what a majority of college marching bands do now for halftime. I understand that some people find it "boring" or "uninteresting" but that's the way it is here at Akron. We did do chairstep for the fight song off the field.2) Trust me, we were playing with energy. That stadium is loud and there were a lot of people. I know every single one of us out there was playing with everything we had. With the pregame drill there were about 140-150 of us out there for pregame so the fact that you can hear us from the back stands with 30,000 people yelling means we were playing "loud" since I'm assuming that's what you mean by energy.3) We didn't use sheet music for pregame or halftime...Just out of curiosity, where were you sitting?

I was in general admission for this one, but usually sit much closer...and if you didn't use sheet music, I stand corrected. I can tell you that this isn't an opinion formed in one Saturday - I've thought this for a long time...just never posted about it. Energy to me is marching with your knees up, horn hits, etc. And music that is a) Not boring, Not just our fight song. Again, not trying to knock you guys...you do a great job with what the band director has you do. I'm just saying - and being honest when I do - is that the performances during pregame and halftime were not exciting, didn't have energy, and actually quieted the crowd, instead of pumping them up even more for the game. And just because "most other colleges" roll with the glidestep doesn't mean UA's band has to. Watching the video of the 1990 UA band that was posted in this thread made me sick...what I would do to have that kind of pregame/halftime now.

I see you're realitively new but for the record we've had this discussion on here several times in the past few years. Search the forums and I'm sure you'll find at least 20 topics on it.For the first game at least, music was gone. The memorization thing is new for this year at the request of many in the band and the return of Mr. Karriker. Music will not be used for pregame all season, but halftime will really depend on how each week goes. For example, we start a new show for the Indiana game Tuesday, as of now we haven't even had a chance to go over the music in rehearsal, and we haven't received drill yet. Unlike highschool where you have band everyday of the week and shows with only a couple moves, we have three, 1.5 hour rehearsals this week and the game on Saturday. If you see music anytime this season, don't panic, we're doing the best we can.I have seen video from both sides of the field for Saturday and I can understand how it seemed unenergetic from the General Admission seats. Those are a long way up there and it is very hard to hear the band. Most of the quieting in the GA section was probably due to people trying to hear the band, from the other side it wasn't a problem at all. I think if you were sitting on the pressbox side of the stadium you would have a very different opinion of at least pregame. You probably noticed that the entire band isn't on the field for pregame, it's designed so if someone is sick or has a family emergency an alternate takes their spot for the game. It also keeps some people who are having problems with the highstep or music from being a distraction on the field, though everyone will march pregame before the end of the season.

It sounds like there are some good steps moving forward...still though - look at how much energy the 1990 band had, or even the high school band that I posted the links of. Just not a fan of the contemporary style...who knows, I might be in the minority there...just didn't seem like it Saturday.

[zipsbandman]

I agree even the 1990 entrance was awesome. It sounded like battle drums coming of the tunnel.

[bandzip]

First off, I love the band, and I think it is a major major part of the whole gameday experience. Some of the greatest football programs in the country are also known for their marching bands and traditions. With that said here is what I took away from the performance.1) First off, you guys looked sharp. The drill was well thought out and was executed pretty well. I liked how you guys formed the zips logo.2)As always, musicality was great....Ohio's Pride never lacks quality3)I liked how everybody in the band did the cheers, and they are always loud.4)Also, the mini bands around the stadium like penn state does to serenade groups of fans was a nice addition.Now...as a former bando and current zips fan, here is what I thought maybe could have been done better.1)I know the tunnel entrance presents some difficulty in terms of doing the entrance that you used to do at the rubber bowl, but I have to admit the old pregame had me jacked for a game. I liked when the tubas and drums strutted out there first to the syncopated cadence. There was an element of suspense there before the rest of the band ran out there. I'd then prefer to hear you march down to the fight song after the fanfare to the fight song. That should be the first thing we hear.2) Numbers.... out of your control I know, but hopefully with the climbing enrollment we can make a 200 piece band. Band seems small to me. All I can say is recruit recruit recruit and show these high school musicians the experience at the INFO. And what happened to the flagline? Down to 4 members? I'd love to see an auxilary unit here at Akron ala LSU's danceline :blink: . Also, a signature move for the drum major? Penn State's does the flip. OSU's does the mace through the goalposts. They really do a good job in firing up their crowds. Lets start our own tradition as opposed to just running out there and twirling.3)This is a biggie... I'd hate to say it but there seemed to be something lacking in energy. I listen to Can't's band and say the same thing and we are so much better than that. I don't know what it is because I know you all give it 110% but there were times during pregame when I didn't even know when to chant because I had a hard time hearing, and it didn't really seem the crowd was feeding off the band and we had the students to do it. Different accoustics maybe at the new digs? Maybe the crowd was THAT loud?I know you guys use zipsnation for fan feedback and just thought I'd give my 2 cents here.

Thanks for the feedback. I think the biggest problem with numbers this year is the fact that Mr. Karriker wasn't here and we had a director who knew it was a one year deal and didn't bother with recruiting. I know when I came for orientation Mr. Karriker saw "Band" on the back of my letterman jacket and came running over with an interest form while I was eating lunch in the Union. For the first time in at least the last three years there are over 100 returning members and a much smaller number of freshmen. For comparison sake, my freshman year we had 120 new members as opposed to about 60-70 returning. I know Zips fans are tired of hearing this, but wait til next year. I have a feeling you're going to see a huge group on the field.I know Mr. Karriker has, and continues to put a lot of thought into pregame, and he isn't %100 percent happy with run on. I agree that the entrance is a little awkward, but I think the rest of it is absolutely fantastic. Again it's a logistical problem with the new field and hopefully we can figure out a better system eventually. If anyone has ideas definately post them and we'll take a look at them.

[tbozeglav]

As far as pregame goes... it looks great and I loved it. I just felt that at times the various pieces didn't flow together to maintain that energy the pregame show should do. I would REALLY love to see the band bring back the Blue & Gold fanfare shown in the 1990 band's youtube video. I love those fanfares and they do nothing but pump up the crowds. Ideas for the entrance... what you guys did is about as good as it'll get right now. Logistically you have to enter through the tunnel because its the only ground-level entrance to the field and that's entirely understandable. What needs to be found is a way for the band to enter the field in a way that is spewing energy. Sitting here, I cannot come up with any ideas that would be a more energetic way for the band to enter the field from the tunnel. What was done is about all that can be done. If we could get videos posted of the pregame performance, that'd be great as my view from the student section wasn't the greatest for watching the band (4th row). Anyone in the band right now reading this thread shouldn't take offense to anything I or anyone else has posted. We all know how much work you all put in and we appreciate you guys for doing what you do. We, as fans, just want a little more, something that will get us pumped for the game. Hopefully some good ideas can come from this thread that can help you guys out.

[bandzip]

As far as pregame goes... it looks great and I loved it. I just felt that at times the various pieces didn't flow together to maintain that energy the pregame show should do. I would REALLY love to see the band bring back the Blue & Gold fanfare shown in the 1990 band's youtube video. I love those fanfares and they do nothing but pump up the crowds. Ideas for the entrance... what you guys did is about as good as it'll get right now. Logistically you have to enter through the tunnel because its the only ground-level entrance to the field and that's entirely understandable. What needs to be found is a way for the band to enter the field in a way that is spewing energy. Sitting here, I cannot come up with any ideas that would be a more energetic way for the band to enter the field from the tunnel. What was done is about all that can be done. If we could get videos posted of the pregame performance, that'd be great as my view from the student section wasn't the greatest for watching the band (4th row). Anyone in the band right now reading this thread shouldn't take offense to anything I or anyone else has posted. We all know how much work you all put in and we appreciate you guys for doing what you do. We, as fans, just want a little more, something that will get us pumped for the game. Hopefully some good ideas can come from this thread that can help you guys out.

Were you on the East or West side? My dad took video from the GA seating and you can barely tell what song we're playing, but there are several videos on facebook from the pressbox side and the new fanfare just feels huge. It's a little simpler than in the past but by the time we hit that last chord the sound is unbelievable. I'm not taking offense to anything, and when I post responses it's simply to explain why we do what we do and ask for suggestions. We aren't entirely satisfied with pregame but because of the location of the tunnel we're stumped as to what to do. Everyone has to come out at once because between the students and the fact that we're in a concrete tunnel we won't be able to hear the drums. We've experimented with this several times. I personally thought there was too much announcing during pregame and halftime, it was a little distracting. I think once we play the national anthem instead of having the extended singing version the whole thing will flow a lot better.

[zipseuph]

I'm not in the band now but from what I know I wouldn't bet on this being the pregame of next year. Mr. K had about 2 weeks to throw it all together (as well as do a crap tone of other things) so there are bound to be some things to work out

[interfx]

As far as pregame goes... it looks great and I loved it. I just felt that at times the various pieces didn't flow together to maintain that energy the pregame show should do. I would REALLY love to see the band bring back the Blue & Gold fanfare shown in the 1990 band's youtube video. I love those fanfares and they do nothing but pump up the crowds. Ideas for the entrance... what you guys did is about as good as it'll get right now. Logistically you have to enter through the tunnel because its the only ground-level entrance to the field and that's entirely understandable. What needs to be found is a way for the band to enter the field in a way that is spewing energy. Sitting here, I cannot come up with any ideas that would be a more energetic way for the band to enter the field from the tunnel. What was done is about all that can be done. If we could get videos posted of the pregame performance, that'd be great as my view from the student section wasn't the greatest for watching the band (4th row). Anyone in the band right now reading this thread shouldn't take offense to anything I or anyone else has posted. We all know how much work you all put in and we appreciate you guys for doing what you do. We, as fans, just want a little more, something that will get us pumped for the game. Hopefully some good ideas can come from this thread that can help you guys out.

Were you on the East or West side? My dad took video from the GA seating and you can barely tell what song we're playing, but there are several videos on facebook from the pressbox side and the new fanfare just feels huge. It's a little simpler than in the past but by the time we hit that last chord the sound is unbelievable. I'm not taking offense to anything, and when I post responses it's simply to explain why we do what we do and ask for suggestions. We aren't entirely satisfied with pregame but because of the location of the tunnel we're stumped as to what to do. Everyone has to come out at once because between the students and the fact that we're in a concrete tunnel we won't be able to hear the drums. We've experimented with this several times. I personally thought there was too much announcing during pregame and halftime, it was a little distracting. I think once we play the national anthem instead of having the extended singing version the whole thing will flow a lot better.

You guys are so lucky in the band today! You get to make your own traditions in the new stadium! I enjoyed double time through the old Rubber Bowl, and I'm sure you guys will come up with something cooler in the next few weeks... Don't fall into the "rut" of having to be the same! Just pump the Energy Up! and do somehting unique for Pre Game that people will talk about for years to come! From the videos I saw, wasn't that exciting either... See you guys at Alumni Band in about a month!

[bandzip]

One thing I just thought of. As some of you probably saw we will now be doing a mini concert at Guzzetta two hours before kickoff and a postgame concert on the west side 50 yard line immediately following every game where we'll perform most of halftime and some cheers. Make sure you check it out if you get the chance.

[ZippyTuba11]

Forgive me for not buying the "we can't hear the drumline" bit, as bigger schools with louder crowds can still do this.Also, coming out of the tunnel just isn't that important. If sacrificing the tunnel on field is what it will take to get an energetic on field, please please, do it.Iowa Band's onfield

Modify that slightly and you keep what we had from the Rubber BowlNorthwestern St

Minnesota-- let the drums and tubas come out first, then bring out the rest of the band

LSU--nothing special, they just have so many members that a block formation is menacing

LSU again-They pose a different way to be amazing-GO BIG. Love what they do around the 1:45 mark

Texas Tech--their field set up is not much different than ours--at least tunnel wise

Tennessee at SEC championship game

Also, how about a little more love for the East side stands?

[tbozeglav]

One thing I just thought of. As some of you probably saw we will now be doing a mini concert at Guzzetta two hours before kickoff and a postgame concert on the west side 50 yard line immediately following every game where we'll perform most of halftime and some cheers. Make sure you check it out if you get the chance.

I saw you doing the performance after the game. I should have stopped over. Ill make sure to next game.And yes, I was sitting on the east side. I knew the eastside would be without the energy the west side would get. Perhaps for one game Ill sit on the east side of the student section.

[zipsbandman]

I think you should have the drums and tubas strut out of the tunnel first for sure, run through the slow cadence or whatever then have rest of the band file in single file to both sides of the field. Then maybe a fast march into a block formations.