Conyers

[Captain Kangaroo]

First 104 Games:13 three-pointers265 points215 ReboundsNext 16 Games:8 three-pointers140 points110 rebounds

[plowerman78]

i think you can thank the ROWDIES for Jimmy's success bc ever since they made his sign he has been going off. So basically his bad play in years past has been bc he hasnt had a sign pretty simple logic to me lol

[Quickzips]

i think you can thank the ROWDIES for Jimmy's success bc ever since they made his sign he has been going off. So basically his bad play in years past has been bc he hasnt had a sign pretty simple logic to me lol

No, actually what did it was Captain calling out Jimmy in the preseason in this thread.http://zipsnation.org/forums//index.php?showtopic=15865

[plowerman78]

ha ha weelll prolly that too lol

[deacon33]

He is avg 8.7 pts a game in those 16 and we are going to call him Superman. Could be confidence, could be gas, lets hold off on the nicknames till he proves himself in big games.

[RootforRoo44]

I have to say it had a lot to do with that sign...it's a pretty awesome sign!But honestly, the reason he's doing so well is because DAMBROT IS PLAYING HIM!!!! About freaking time. Last year Jimmy would go out, play good defense one play, and then make one small mistake and Dambrot would have him subbed out within a minute of coming in. How can a guy get any sort of rhythm when he can't be out there more than a few minutes each time?It's really pretty simple. I fear the same thing is happening to Nitro right now. He is a shooter but he can't find any rhythm because he never is in long enough to find one. We have a tall guard like him who is deadly from outside, we should be utilizing him. Come tournament time it would be extremely useful to have such an asset.

[Dr Z]

But honestly, the reason he's doing so well is because DAMBROT IS PLAYING HIM!!!! About freaking time. Last year Jimmy would go out, play good defense one play, and then make one small mistake and Dambrot would have him subbed out within a minute of coming in. How can a guy get any sort of rhythm when he can't be out there more than a few minutes each time?

2007 - .277 points per minute played2008 - .287 points per minute played2009 - .225 points per minute played2010 - .383 points per minute playedHe is proving to be more productive per minute played this year than any other.He is averaging 8.8 points per game this year in 23 minuets played. If he played 23 minutes per game last year his stats would average out to 5.1 points per game.

[Captain Kangaroo]

He is avg 8.7 pts a game in those 16 and we are going to call him Superman. Could be confidence, could be gas, lets hold off on the nicknames till he proves himself in big games.

He's pretty much averaging a double-double from December through the OU game. That's enough for me to be a believer.OU was a big game. He went 16/14.

[Zip Watcher]

He is avg 8.7 pts a game in those 16 and we are going to call him Superman. Could be confidence, could be gas, lets hold off on the nicknames till he proves himself in big games.

I don't know anything about where he changes, or if he's Superman .. but I do think that he's fast becoming the MAC's King of the Boards.He's got opposing coaches & fans all shook up .. of that I'm sure.

[Dr Z]

[Dave in Green]

I think his defense has always been there, but so was Nate Linhart, who also had offense and better all-around play. Linhart could also rebound, but not like Conyers is doing this season. Lots of speculation here. Did Conyers blossom this year on his own, or was it KD who was holding him back?Overall I like KD a lot as a coach. But I think he really needs to do a little self analysis and try to better understand if his mostly good coaching style has a flaw that holds potentially good players back. If Conyers came to UA with a reputation of being able to do what he's doing this year, but did not come anywhere near fulfilling his potential until his senior year, exactly how did that happen and how do you keep it from happening to other players?The Zips needed Linhart over the full course of his career, and he delivered. Watching Conyers perform brilliantly in his senior year begs the question of why he wasn't also delivering over the full course of his career at UA. Why couldn't Linhart and Conyers have been performing side by side over the past few years.This is really an important question to resolve for the future of Zips basketball.

[Zips Win!]

I think his defense has always been there, but so was Nate Linhart, who also had offense and better all-around play. Linhart could also rebound, but not like Conyers is doing this season. Lots of speculation here. Did Conyers blossom this year on his own, or was it KD who was holding him back?Overall I like KD a lot as a coach. But I think he really needs to do a little self analysis and try to better understand if his mostly good coaching style has a flaw that holds potentially good players back. If Conyers came to UA with a reputation of being able to do what he's doing this year, but did not come anywhere near fulfilling his potential until his senior year, exactly how did that happen and how do you keep it from happening to other players?The Zips needed Linhart over the full course of his career, and he delivered. Watching Conyers perform brilliantly in his senior year begs the question of why he wasn't also delivering over the full course of his career at UA. Why couldn't Linhart and Conyers have been performing side by side over the past few years.This is really an important question to resolve for the future of Zips basketball.

I beg to differ. Nate was a great defensive player. His offense was erratic, at best. At no time was he a player you could count on for offense. As for Conyers...this has very little to do with KD. Take last year, Conyers was given chance after chance at the beginning of the year and HE did not perform. When his minutes were reduced (with Bardo), the team took off and began to win. Players develop and mature at various stages. Sometimes it's on them.... and not the coach.For years, I could count on one hand the players that enrolled at UA, got better every year and by their senior year became very good D-1 players. Jimmy is one them. I'll take it and enjoy it...

[Dave in Green]

I think you missed my point. All I said about Linhart's offense was that he showed more than Conyers. Maybe it's because he played more minutes. But as a senior he was the team's second leading scorer, less than a point per game behind team leader Brett McKnight.Sure, Conyers made mistakes. So did Linhart. Maybe Linhart made a few less and got more playing time for it. And since Linhart and Conyers played essentially the same position, more Linhart minutes resulted in fewer Conyers minutes.Point is, not all players are alike. Not all players respond well to being jerked out for making a single mistake. The ones who do will do well under KD and the ones who don't won't. But what if a player who responds well to being left in after making two or three mistakes will grow from it and turn into a monster? What if Linhart hadn't taken all of Conyers' minutes? What if Conyers had been left in games alongside Linhart after making a mistake or two? Would he have turned into a monster earlier in his career?I don't know the answer to that. I don't think KD does because he never gave it a chance, and I doubt anyone on this forum does, either. We can guess about it all we want. But the important thing to me is that coaches can have learning moments just like players. I sure hope KD uses his Conyers senior season learning moment to ponder whether there's anything the coach could have done to help late bloomers to bloom earlier in their careers.Maybe there's nothing to be learned here. But if there is, it could make KD an even better coach and future Zips teams more formidable.

[Zip Watcher]

How can you possibly take Young Fit Jimmy "the King" Conyers .. and turn him into Ponch?! I'm stunned.Thank you very much. B) B) Go Zips!!

[Dr Z]

How can you possibly take Young Fit Jimmy "the King" Conyers .. and turn him into Ponch?! I'm stunned.

I'm considering marketing the "CONYERS glasses" I bet I can sell upwards of 25 pair