InTheZone Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 My top 3: 1. Terry Bowden, Head Coach, North Alabama 2. Danny Rocco, Head Coach, Liberty 3. Paul Winters, Head Coach, Wayne State Now what do all 3 of these men have in common? They're all current head coaches, and they all have extensive experience at taking programs that absolutely suck and are at the bottom of the food chain and turning them into winners right away. That's the main quality our AD should've been looking for this past offseason, instead of going out and finding one of his former butt buddies with no head coach experience and a history of being a complete loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Two of the three coaches, Terry Bowden and Paul Winters were assistant coaches at Akron in the past. This is an excellent starting point. All three could do far more with this current pack of players than the iteam has any chance of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 My top 3: 1. Terry Bowden, Head Coach, North Alabama 2. Danny Rocco, Head Coach, Liberty 3. Paul Winters, Head Coach, Wayne State Now what do all 3 of these men have in common? They're all current head coaches, and they all have extensive experience at taking programs that absolutely suck and are at the bottom of the food chain and turning them into winners right away. That's the main quality our AD should've been looking for this past offseason, instead of going out and finding one of his former butt buddies with no head coach experience and a history of being a complete loser. You might want to check your facts on Winters. He has only had 2 winning seasons in 6 years at a DII school, and only won a TOTAL of 4 games in his first two seasons, and has a dismal overall record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronad Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Although I like the selections,we will Icoach around for at least 2 years and probably 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Although I like the selections,we will Icoach around for at least 2 years and probably 3. It shouldn't be this way. I know the status quo is to give someone time but we don't have the time to give him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Although I like the selections,we will Icoach around for at least 2 years and probably 3. too late to talk about a different coach...many here were hoping for head coaching experience to come in here...but...we all know how this game is played...a faculty member sitting next to us in 212 made the comment about how the football program and the athletic department in general has to live off of student fees...can't support itself...maybe part of the problem is that the AD feels no sense of responsibility to fans because they know their income will be there even if the product is lets say subpar..obviously most of those kids who pay the fees never go to any athletic events...not saying that this dosen't happen in most other places but it sure removes a lot of incentive for the AD and its employees..shoot,coaches get fired and still get paid..oh well 10-2 Northern Illinois... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 You might want to check your facts on Winters. He has only had 2 winning seasons in 6 years at a DII school, and only won a TOTAL of 4 games in his first two seasons, and has a dismal overall record. 4 wins in two seasons means Ianello will have to win 4 games next year....yeah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsAlum92 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Luke Fickell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 How about UAM for the AD spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 You might want to check your facts on Winters. He has only had 2 winning seasons in 6 years at a DII school, and only won a TOTAL of 4 games in his first two seasons, and has a dismal overall record. 4 wins in two seasons means Ianello will have to win 4 games next year....yeah right. What made you think my comment had to do with defending Ianello? Go back and read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Luke Fickell. Won't happen. When Fickell becomes a HC it will be at a bigger program than UA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 My top 3: 1. Terry Bowden, Head Coach, North Alabama 2. Danny Rocco, Head Coach, Liberty 3. Paul Winters, Head Coach, Wayne State Now what do all 3 of these men have in common? They're all current head coaches, and they all have extensive experience at taking programs that absolutely suck and are at the bottom of the food chain and turning them into winners right away. That's the main quality our AD should've been looking for this past offseason, instead of going out and finding one of his former butt buddies with no head coach experience and a history of being a complete loser. You might want to check your facts on Winters. He has only had 2 winning seasons in 6 years at a DII school, and only won a TOTAL of 4 games in his first two seasons, and has a dismal overall record. I think you have to have a proper context of just how bad of shape the Wayne State program was in when he got there to understand the job he's done there. That being said, I do think D2 playoff success is a must before he would come back here, which would likely happen this year. He's got a good squad, won 63-14 yesterday. He's 3rd on my list, and gets points for being an Akron native, a football alumni, and a guy who I know bleeds Blue and Gold and would put his heart and soul into this job, not look at it as just a stepping stone. I really like Danny Rocco though. Look him up on wikipedia. He is EXACTLY the kind of coach we should've been looking for the first time around. Terry Bowden would bring instant name recognition and excitement to the program, and he has a history of immediate success as a head coach. He took an awful Auburn team and went undefeated his first year in the SEC! All these guys were available this offseason, and we went out and hired a WR coach who has been nothing but a loser his whole career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Pass on Paul Winters. There is a reason he is still DII and not even DIAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Pass on Paul Winters. There is a reason he is still DII and not even DIAA I wouldn't even consider him. And it has more to do with my feelings I have about what he did and said during the time he was here. InTheZone...I don't dispute that you see some positives in the fact that he's done some good at a school that used to be bad. I get that. But, I was merely disputing the fact that you put him in a "took a bad program and made them a winner right away" category. I'll take your word for it that he's made them better than they were. But, I don't see a guy with an awful record at a DII school even remotely being considered for any higher level job, and certainly not a D-1A job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 You might want to check your facts on Winters. He has only had 2 winning seasons in 6 years at a DII school, and only won a TOTAL of 4 games in his first two seasons, and has a dismal overall record. 4 wins in two seasons means Ianello will have to win 4 games next year....yeah right. What made you think my comment had to do with defending Ianello? Go back and read. Oh i wasn't attacking you in any way. I was just saying "if this guy sucks, imagine how bad Coach I must". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxZIP Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Pass on Paul Winters. There is a reason he is still DII and not even DIAA I wouldn't even consider him. And it has more to do with my feelings I have about what he did and said during the time he was here. InTheZone...I don't dispute that you see some positives in the fact that he's done some good at a school that used to be bad. I get that. But, I was merely disputing the fact that you put him in a "took a bad program and made them a winner right away" category. I'll take your word for it that he's made them better than they were. But, I don't see a guy with an awful record at a DII school even remotely being considered for any higher level job, and certainly not a D-1A job. Is ITZ Paul winters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Pass on Paul Winters. There is a reason he is still DII and not even DIAA I wouldn't even consider him. And it has more to do with my feelings I have about what he did and said during the time he was here. InTheZone...I don't dispute that you see some positives in the fact that he's done some good at a school that used to be bad. I get that. But, I was merely disputing the fact that you put him in a "took a bad program and made them a winner right away" category. I'll take your word for it that he's made them better than they were. But, I don't see a guy with an awful record at a DII school even remotely being considered for any higher level job, and certainly not a D-1A job. Is ITZ Paul winters No I'm not, but a disclaimer, as most already know, Paul Winters was my coach when I played, and is a close friend now. I think he would do an incredible job if he came back, certainly better than the stooge we have running the show now, but if I were AD, he wouldn't be my first choice, which is why I put him at 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 How about UAM for the AD spot? How about....no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 How about UAM for the AD spot? How about....no? He'd be better than TW. However, "He'd be better than..." isn't a very high standard when comparing to anyone in our athletic department nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMPLEMINTZ Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Easy, Easy, Easy.......Replace the new head guy already? It's not entirely his fault. Tom the AD didn't hooked him up with an up to date copy of "Coaching College Football for Dummies " Hell, he gave him everything else! I'm sure when Tom realizes that Rob should have read page one in the Kickoff Section he will forgive him. Oh yeah, he should go over the part where it says you should not take an all-conf. Safety and move him to WR only to keep his ass on the bench while the safety coverage gets shredded. I'm sure if he learns a couple basic things about football he will be fine. You really can't blame a man that never played A SNAP OF FOOTBALL IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE, for not knowing jack shit about the game. Coach Faust will be fine, oh I mean coach Ianello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Luke Fickell. Best candidate mentioned. hear, hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Easy, Easy, Easy.......Replace the new head guy already? It's not entirely his fault. Tom the AD didn't hooked him up with an up to date copy of "Coaching College Football for Dummies " Hell, he gave him everything else! I'm sure when Tom realizes that Rob should have read page one in the Kickoff Section he will forgive him. Oh yeah, he should go over the part where it says you should not take an all-conf. Safety and move him to WR only to keep his ass on the bench while the safety coverage gets shredded. I'm sure if he learns a couple basic things about football he will be fine. You really can't blame a man that never played A SNAP OF FOOTBALL IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE, for not knowing jack shit about the game. Coach Faust will be fine, oh I mean coach Ianello. Be careful about mentioning Gerry Faust and Ron Ianello in the same sentence. Faust, while never to be considered a great college coach measured in wins and loses, did great things for the University of Akron. This man still bleeds blue and gold in spite of all the crap idiots have slung at him over the years. I will take Gerry Faust any day. Gerry exudes honor and integrity. I am proud to know the man personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Easy, Easy, Easy.......Replace the new head guy already? It's not entirely his fault. Tom the AD didn't hooked him up with an up to date copy of "Coaching College Football for Dummies " Hell, he gave him everything else! I'm sure when Tom realizes that Rob should have read page one in the Kickoff Section he will forgive him. Oh yeah, he should go over the part where it says you should not take an all-conf. Safety and move him to WR only to keep his ass on the bench while the safety coverage gets shredded. I'm sure if he learns a couple basic things about football he will be fine. You really can't blame a man that never played A SNAP OF FOOTBALL IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE, for not knowing jack shit about the game. Coach Faust will be fine, oh I mean coach Ianello. Be careful about mentioning Gerry Faust and Ron Ianello in the same sentence. Faust, while never to be considered a great college coach measured in wins and loses, did great things for the University of Akron. This man still bleeds blue and gold in spite of all the crap idiots have slung at him over the years. I will take Gerry Faust any day. Gerry exudes honor and integrity. I am proud to know the man personally. Agreed. I've never had anything but positive interactions with Gerry Faust as a man. Now as a coach and the way he ran the program into the ground there at the end... I think we're still kind of feeling the effects of that. But as a person, you'll never meet a better guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Pass on Paul Winters. There is a reason he is still DII and not even DIAA I wouldn't even consider him. And it has more to do with my feelings I have about what he did and said during the time he was here. InTheZone...I don't dispute that you see some positives in the fact that he's done some good at a school that used to be bad. I get that. But, I was merely disputing the fact that you put him in a "took a bad program and made them a winner right away" category. I'll take your word for it that he's made them better than they were. But, I don't see a guy with an awful record at a DII school even remotely being considered for any higher level job, and certainly not a D-1A job. Is ITZ Paul winters No I'm not, but a disclaimer, as most already know, Paul Winters was my coach when I played, and is a close friend now. I think he would do an incredible job if he came back, certainly better than the stooge we have running the show now, but if I were AD, he wouldn't be my first choice, which is why I put him at 3 You might be right, but unfortunately we're stuck with him for awhile. And I do respect your thoughts on Winters. I just wouldn't want him. Faust: He was hired to come here to do a difficult job, turning a I-AA into a I-A for the first time, with limited scholarships, and very little facilities, money, etc. to work with. I think people give him a lot more credit now for what he accomplished under really adverse circumstances, and I'm happy to see that. Unfortunately, we had to face another 15+ years of difficulty to give him the respect he deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Paul Winters' offenses put up amazing numbers. It was not his offenses that lost football games for us. With the money these clowns are making to coach our team -- I'm fairly positive you could get him to come home to coach offense again and I for one would love to see the offense he ran again. This offense we said is absolutely horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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