Kentucky Game

[GP1]

And the SEC mystique continues.

If the SEC isn't the best conference, which is? I would lean to the Big 12...you probably disagree. The Big 10 lost 2of3 against the PAC10 yesterday and was an extra point miss away from possibly losing 3of3. The Big 10 and the darling of the Big 10 and Kirk Herbstreit, tOSU, will be exposed for being frauds by the end of the season. I wouldn't put them at the top.

I'm not a big 10 fan, but I would like to see an SEC school play tOSU in the shoe in the winter time. those guys never have to play in cold snowy weather and because of that have an advantage over schools who have to have game plans that involve cold non speed conducive weather.

I would like the medium ten to stop scheduling so many MAC schools and Marshall. A middle of the pack SEC school like Tennessee (similiar budget) would dominate the medium ten.

If only the Browns could play Tressel's schedules, they would dominate.

Texas, USC, and Miami Fl. agree with you. That is who OSU has had on the schedule the last 5 years and they have won their share of them too.

On the other hand Florida playing all of the little sisters of the poor also agrees with you.

Some of the ignorance on this board is utterly amazing to me. You guys attack a team you hate, but ignore the fact that other teams you compare them to do the same things and even worse, but you don't mention that. Some of you guys really let your hatred cloud your ability to make a rational post.

Yes, many of the B10 teams play MAC teams. That is a regional thing. Just as the SEC, PAC10 and all the rest play out of conference games against weaker opponents. Look for yourself at the SEC teams pre-conference schedules.

The B10 has 6 teams in the top 20 right now. I hardly call that Medium10...

It is true though that the SEC doesn't come north to play games?

Tennessee would domimate the B10..ROFLMAO. More ignorance and not having a clue about college football.

Funny how Minny, Wisci, Iowa all went out west this week to face top 20 teams. When was the last time Florida, LSU, Alabama did that? When was the last time any of them came north?

I do agree though that if the Browns played a college schedule they would dominate. That takes an intelligent being to state the obvious.

I won't even visit this thread anymore as I know the morons will come in full force now. Others start the crap, I respond and then the idiots all attack me.

To this day, I have still never, ever started an OSU thread. Yet, I have ignored many.

I apologize if some of you are too intolerant to accept someone that has 2-Alma-Mater.

I would defend UA on the OSU boards if I had to, but posters there aren't as ignorant as some here. They usually say good things about UA and want other Ohio teams to succeed.

Same old, same old.

Won their share of them? If you elimnate Miami from this year, a team that is just now getting decent again, I believe your beloved Buckeyes are 1-4 in recent years against those other two teams you mention, Texas and USC. And if you throw in the two blowout losses against SEC teams LSU and Florida, your're at an impressive 1-6 mark.

Stop making sense. Tressel has the fans so drunk on Tressel Punch that if they lost every one of those games, they would somehow think it was a victory.

[scottditzen]

I am incredulous. The statement just hit home fore me.

I just can't believe that after all of the excitement to start last year, we are now facing the possibility of a winless team.

p.s. for the record, to go "defeated" is actually pretty funny, in a pathetic way of course.

Scott are you suggesting the Zips will win a game?

Or just how ridiculous defeated sounds?

[zipsfan13]

The hatred that some of you have for Ohio State is quite comical. I can't even count how many times there has been Ohio State bashing in a thread that isn't even about them. Does bashing them make you feel better about Akron? Tressel has them consistently at the top of the Big Ten, so they're obviously doing something right. Sure, the Big Ten has been down the past few years, but it's getting better again. I understand that a lot of you get angry at the students and people that live around Akron that would rather travel to Columbus or stay at home to watch Ohio State instead of Akron, but can you really blame them? It's not like Akron football is doing anything that would make them want to choose otherwise. A large portion of the students at Akron were probably raised to be Buckeye fans, so you really expect them to give up rooting for the Buckeyes and only root for Akron? I was born and raised an Ohio State fan, just like my dad was, but I still go to the Akron games and cheer them on as well. And before anyone asks, yes I applied to Ohio State and got in, but there were a number of reasons why I chose Akron instead. I'm sorry for the rant, but the hatred for Ohio State gets ridiculous sometimes.

[GP1]

The hatred that some of you have for Ohio State is quite comical.

Mine isn't hatred. I get a kick out of watching tOSU fans defend a bad conference, worse schedules and horrible performance against other bcs conferences. Why do I get a kick out of it? Well, they are masters at defending it. It's like watching a great trial lawyer agrue a case for a guy who was caught on camera killing somebody.

But GP1, MSU beat Notre Dame......I know, ND would have trouble winning C-USA and would finish in the bottom third of the SEC, Big 12 and PAC 10. I hope Kelly is saving the money he is making over the next three years, but then again, he can always upgrade his coaching position after this one.

But GP1, they have Penn State......I know, when Joe Pa retires, they can change their name to the University of Illinois for as much of an impact they will have on college football.

I could go on....

[Zips Win!]

And the SEC mystique continues.

If the SEC isn't the best conference, which is? I would lean to the Big 12...you probably disagree. The Big 10 lost 2of3 against the PAC10 yesterday and was an extra point miss away from possibly losing 3of3. The Big 10 and the darling of the Big 10 and Kirk Herbstreit, tOSU, will be exposed for being frauds by the end of the season. I wouldn't put them at the top.

I'm not a big 10 fan, but I would like to see an SEC school play tOSU in the shoe in the winter time. those guys never have to play in cold snowy weather and because of that have an advantage over schools who have to have game plans that involve cold non speed conducive weather.

I would like the medium ten to stop scheduling so many MAC schools and Marshall. A middle of the pack SEC school like Tennessee (similiar budget) would dominate the medium ten.

If only the Browns could play Tressel's schedules, they would dominate.

Texas, USC, and Miami Fl. agree with you. That is who OSU has had on the schedule the last 5 years and they have won their share of them too.

On the other hand Florida playing all of the little sisters of the poor also agrees with you.

Some of the ignorance on this board is utterly amazing to me. You guys attack a team you hate, but ignore the fact that other teams you compare them to do the same things and even worse, but you don't mention that. Some of you guys really let your hatred cloud your ability to make a rational post.

Yes, many of the B10 teams play MAC teams. That is a regional thing. Just as the SEC, PAC10 and all the rest play out of conference games against weaker opponents. Look for yourself at the SEC teams pre-conference schedules.

The B10 has 6 teams in the top 20 right now. I hardly call that Medium10...

It is true though that the SEC doesn't come north to play games?

Tennessee would domimate the B10..ROFLMAO. More ignorance and not having a clue about college football.

Funny how Minny, Wisci, Iowa all went out west this week to face top 20 teams. When was the last time Florida, LSU, Alabama did that? When was the last time any of them came north?

I do agree though that if the Browns played a college schedule they would dominate. That takes an intelligent being to state the obvious.

I won't even visit this thread anymore as I know the morons will come in full force now. Others start the crap, I respond and then the idiots all attack me.

To this day, I have still never, ever started an OSU thread. Yet, I have ignored many.

I apologize if some of you are too intolerant to accept someone that has 2-Alma-Mater.

I would defend UA on the OSU boards if I had to, but posters there aren't as ignorant as some here. They usually say good things about UA and want other Ohio teams to succeed.

Same old, same old.

Thanks Big Zip.

After spending an entire weekend following the Zips: Soccer game on Friday, the long drive down to Lexington for football and then back on Sunday to catch the soccer team on Sunday, the last thing I look forward to is clicking on Zipsnation only to read about who “Zips” fans think the buckeyes should be playing in the winter. Sorry, it has no place and as long as folks post about it, I will rip back.

As for BZ, thanks for making most of my points.

You mention the five tough games over the last 5 years. Great! Five quality opponents out of 20 (non-conference games) A tough game 25% if the time. As I mentioned, if only Mangini (Browns) had the luxury of three guaranteed wins in the first 4 games every year, he would be hailed as a savior in c-town.

Of course the MAC-BT is a regional match-up. However, tosu doesn’t play MAC schools because it’s regional. They play because they are guaranteed wins. Period.

The BT having multiple teams in the top 25 is nothing new.

The six teams in the top 25 have played a collective 18 games.

TEN of the 18 games were versus non-BSC competition. Let’s all get excited!

How is using a large budget, quality program, middle of the SEC, school like Tennessee as a barometer for BT success ignorant?

Minn, Wisc and Iowa did go play fellow BCS schools- And two of the three teams LOST with UW getting a lucky win. If you traded more of those non-bcs games mentioned above for BCS games, there wouldn’t be six BT teams in the top 25.

I need some of what you’re smoking if you truly believe that OSU fans want the other Ohio teams to succeed! Of course, that depends on how you define success. You could not find even one buckeye fan who was excited to see UC rated ahead of them last year. Every one I heard was jealous and wined the tosu was better and would beat them if they played. When buckeye fan is king turd on sheet mountain, everything is great. If not, they riot.

I would love to be able to view the college football landscape with your red and silver glasses. I don’t. Never did, never will. My view is with my blue and gold glasses. And asking that I don’t have to hear about buck nut nation on the Zips message board really isn’t asking for too much.

[GP1]

I had the chance to see Miami, BG, OU, Can't and Akron play yesterday. I didn't expect us to beat Kentucky yesterday on our best day, but after seeing the rest of the MAC play I'm confident this team could win at least four games. Let's talk about who is most responsible for winning those games while we review the game yesterday.

The PLAYERS on this team need to play better. I can't be any more clear. The PLAYERS need to play better.

Specifically, Nicely needs to have better accuracy. His accuracy was the one thing I feared about him coming into this season and it appears as if my fears are coming true. He horribly overthrew to one and then underthrew to another wide open WRs. Both plays were touchdowns converted into incomplete passes. Nicely also STILL struggles mightily throwing simple short passes with consistency. We can win any MAC game we play in this year if he improves in these areas. If we don't, we won't. Big plays are hugely important for a pro style offense and we need to convert them.

We were told on this board last week that our WRs aren't good enough to get open against those titans of the gridiron, GW....I'm here to tell you that if they can get that open against Kentucky, they should have been able to abuse GW. If they can get wide open against an SEC school, they can get open against a MAC school. With that said, I would like to direct this comment to #82......When the ball hits you in the freaking hands 40 yards down field with nobody around, catch the ball!.....Just catch the freaking ball.....you get a full scholarship to a quasi D-IA school to catch the ball, earn the money. We can win any MAC game this season if the WRs catch balls when they are open 40 yards down field.

We are running a pro style offense, which I hate, but it is what it is. Pro style offenses depend on the QBs, WRs and coaches. The play calling in the first half last night was about as good as I have seen it in years. The problem was with the players not executing the offense. Specifically, the QB and WR. These tree positions left 21 points on the table in the first half last night. This has to change. If this doesn't change by the end of the year, we need to change the people or change the people. JC plays should be brought in for immediate change if the players can't change.

We can win in the MAC with our defense. 34 is the best undersized LB this school has seen since Brian Hilk. The DL played well until they were overwhelmed by an SEC o-line. The DBs struggled, but they were also overwhelmed by much better SEC talent. We can win any MAC game this season with this defense on the field. Seeing what the competition is in the MAC yesterday, I don't shake in fear at the rest of the MAC offenses. We can win games.

Coaching. I dont' have a problem with the game plan. We came out aggressive, took shots down field and moved the ball. The players were prepared on offense. The defense was equally prepared. Once you get down to a really good team, everything falls apart. When they knew we couldn't throw the ball down field, they covered short and midrange passes well and we were doomed.

Special teams. Enough with the pop up kick. Good FG by Igor. We really don't know much about our KO return because KY had a great kicker who could put the ball in the endzone.

In closing, if you are going to blame anyone for the poor performance yesterday, blame the players. I don't think the overall performance was that bad. A couple of key positions came up short and things got out of control...we aren't the first MAC school to have that happen to them against an SEC school.

This team should go at least 4-4 in the MAC this season. If they don't, it's the PLAYERS fault. I've been saying it for a long time now on this board...we always blame the wrong people. We blame coaches, we blame the stadiums, we blame the practice field, we have even taken to blaming former athletic directors for our troubles. Blame the players.

Now let's go out and win the MAC East.

I have to say I agree almost entirely with the line of thinking here. Good topic & thoughts from GP1.

Go Zips!

Go Zips!

[Captain Kangaroo]

Stop it with the Ohio State stuff. Both pro and con. Please take it to the Smack Forum.

Thanks.

[RACER]

gp the one thing i do agree with you that some if this is on the players.they need to start playing football. i think the

a.d. made a bad choice for coach.i blame some of the losing on a coach,and a.d. who made choice.at some point though

the players need to start making players.it's not the coaches fault is the guy drops a pass right to him.

i think the blame should be shared around.there is no excuse for missing an extra point.our defense has played about 2

decent quarters all year.i don't agree that we will win some mac games.the mac is bad,but we are the worst team in the

mac.i just don't see akron winning more than 2 mac games.we will be lucky to win two at that. we could go

0-12.

[ZippyTuba11]

gp the one thing i do agree with you that some if this is on the players.they need to start playing football. i think the

a.d. made a bad choice for coach.i blame some of the losing on a coach,and a.d. who made choice.at some point though

the players need to start making players.it's not the coaches fault is the guy drops a pass right to him.

i think the blame should be shared around.there is no excuse for missing an extra point.our defense has played about 2

decent quarters all year.i don't agree that we will win some mac games.the mac is bad,but we are the worst team in the

mac.i just don't see akron winning more than 2 mac games.we will be lucky to win two at that. we could go

0-12.

Worst team in the MAC? Give Eastern Michigan some credit. Its not easy to consistently be the worst team in the worst conference.

Also don't forget Akron isn't the only MAC team with a loss to D1AA.