The Silence Speaks Volumes

[skip-zip]

Great question. I really had my concerns when he came in here, and right away he talked about the offensive and defensive schemes he was going to run. Did he look at the current personnel in making that decision?

I'll guess no. I Would have loved to be a fly on the wall during that interview.

I think when making these points that some of us are assuming that the staff knows how to run the different offenses and are comfortable running them.

If Coach I doesn't know, or isn't comfortable, with the spread he isn't going to utilize it.

There are some coaches that design their schemes according to their talent and others that try to make their talent fit their schemes.

Coach I appears to be trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

Coach I came from a pro style offense. That is probably what he knows.

This appears to go back to the AD. The AD should have been sure that whomever he was hiring as a coach was going to be able to use the existing players.

Every new coach takes a few years to fully get his schemes and plays in. However, this may be more than that because of the complete 180 in schemes along with not having top tier talent in the first place.

When he was first hired a lot of people were happy as soon as he mentioned he was going to the 4-3. For once Akron had enough d-lineman to run a 4-3. I feel that even if we only had 4 d-lineman on scholly and 4 All Mac linebackers, he was still going to run the 4-3.

Obviously the 3-3-5 had to go. But to just straight out say what you are switching to before even knowing your roster put up a red flag for me.

That was exactly my thought.

[K-Roo]

The dead silence here long after the latest Zips debacle is pretty telling. Those of us who had some hope left for this season had to face reality tonight. Any glimmer of improvement we may have seen in the last couple of losses was pretty much extinguished in the rain tonight. The Zips really showed me nothing at all in their first MAC game, and that leads me to believe that it's probably not going to get much better this season. About the only thing left to pray for is that the Zips might be slightly better than a couple of other MAC teams, and escape a winless season alone in the MAC cellar. But after what I sat through the rain tonight to witness, I now reluctantly have to admit that 0-12 is a distinct possibility.

Embarassingly pathetic. For the fans. For the University and the players.

And now it's official. My economic situation is forcing re-evaluation of any and all expenditures.

I can't afford it anymore to begin with. My wife was laid off and then add the utter failure of the program and I can't make any other decision. I can't justify wasting any more money going to Zips games only to get sick to my stomach watching this stuff.

UA's I-A experiment has been a utter failure. We should drop football and add Curling.

[Dr Z]

There are some coaches that design their schemes according to their talent and others that try to make their talent fit their schemes.

Coach I appears to be trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Coach I came from a pro style offense. That is probably what he knows.

How many coaches go with a scheme they don't know and continue with the current/former one? Give me an example.

I can give one, it turned out to be the correct move, but at the time it was highly controversial among the fans.

[Buckzip]

There are some coaches that design their schemes according to their talent and others that try to make their talent fit their schemes.

Coach I appears to be trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Coach I came from a pro style offense. That is probably what he knows.

How many coaches go with a scheme they don't know and continue with the current/former one? Give me an example.

I can give one, it turned out to be the correct move, but at the time it was highly controversial among the fans.

None. I never said any did.

However, if they are a coach that knows multiple schemes, they will adjust their schemes to match their talent.

I could mention 1 right now but I would be attacked for it.

Again, that is why I mentioned that it was the AD fault also. He hired a coach that would put in a system that this team wasn't built for.

I am sure that happens quite a bit.

[Dr Z]

There are some coaches that design their schemes according to their talent and others that try to make their talent fit their schemes.

Coach I appears to be trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Coach I came from a pro style offense. That is probably what he knows.

How many coaches go with a scheme they don't know and continue with the current/former one? Give me an example.

I can give one, it turned out to be the correct move, but at the time it was highly controversial among the fans.

None.

I know a defensive coordinator who got hired as a head coach with no previous head coaching experience. He decided to go with the previous coaches defense scheme instead of the one that he was taught. He won the highest honor doing so. This team continues using this scheme 4 years later. He was a defensive backs coach at 3 different Universities and then became a defensive backs coach in the NFL before his HC job. Point is, I think it is very rare, but it happens. I was hoping someone else knew of more examples.

[Lee Adams]

Hate to use JD as an example but..In 2004 he came in and using Lee Owens guys with a couple of key additions,like Brett Biggs he did pretty good relative to what had been happening. In 2005,well we all know. That was still a lot of Owens' recruits with some additions. So it could be done here. Maintaining that well..

[Buckzip]

There are some coaches that design their schemes according to their talent and others that try to make their talent fit their schemes.

Coach I appears to be trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Coach I came from a pro style offense. That is probably what he knows.

How many coaches go with a scheme they don't know and continue with the current/former one? Give me an example.

I can give one, it turned out to be the correct move, but at the time it was highly controversial among the fans.

None.

I know a defensive coordinator who got hired as a head coach with no previous head coaching experience. He decided to go with the previous coaches defense scheme instead of the one that he was taught. He won the highest honor doing so. This team continues using this scheme 4 years later. He was a defensive backs coach at 3 different Universities and then became a defensive backs coach in the NFL before his HC job. Point is, I think it is very rare, but it happens. I was hoping someone else knew of more examples.

Perhaps his d-coordinator was familiar with that system also. That is a huge help.

[RACER]

i just don't think it matters who the coach was this year.do you think we would be 5-0 with saban coaching team.

people keep saying there is no way one mac school is 35 pts better than another.well it happened last week.

temple put up 50 pts also against us.this will be going on our fourth losing season in a row with two different

coaches.people need to accept the fact that this team does not have enough talent to even come close to

teams like temple,or niu.i am not saying some of blame is not on the coaches,but people need quit

saying we have talent to compete in the mac.i think these last four seasons show we don't.

[Buckzip]

i just don't think it matters who the coach was this year.do you think we would be 5-0 with saban coaching team.

people keep saying there is no way one mac school is 35 pts better than another.well it happened last week.

temple put up 50 pts also against us.this will be going on our fourth losing season in a row with two different

coaches.people need to accept the fact that this team does not have enough talent to even come close to

teams like temple,or niu.i am not saying some of blame is not on the coaches,but people need quit

saying we have talent to compete in the mac.i think these last four seasons show we don't.

No, we wouldn't be 5-0, but if I had to bet, I would say we have at last 2 wins and were competitive on the other 3.

Not only has this team lost, they haven't even been competitive with the exception of a DIAA team.

[you am i]

i just don't think it matters who the coach was this year.do you think we would be 5-0 with saban coaching team.

people keep saying there is no way one mac school is 35 pts better than another.well it happened last week.

temple put up 50 pts also against us.this will be going on our fourth losing season in a row with two different

coaches.people need to accept the fact that this team does not have enough talent to even come close to

teams like temple,or niu.i am not saying some of blame is not on the coaches,but people need quit

saying we have talent to compete in the mac.i think these last four seasons show we don't.

No, we wouldn't be 5-0, but if I had to bet, I would say we have at last 2 wins and were competitive on the other 3.

Not only has this team lost, they haven't even been competitive with the exception of a DIAA team.

And to rub salt in the wound, apparently Gardner-Webb isn't that good. They have been winless since the Akron games, losing to Western Carolina, Sam Houston State, and Old Dominion.

[RACER]

you really think with saban we would have beat indiana.almost beat niu,ky,cuse.saban struggled his first year.

his first year at bama they finished 7-6.they lost to that power house U.L.Monroe. all people said when j.d. was here

that we needed a pro offense,and a 4-3 defense.now when we are losing games some fans want to go back to the

spread.the biggest problem is that we are going on are fourth losing season.coach I better be a good salesmen

i don't see to many players that would go to akron if they had any other d-1 offers.the one thing we do have is great

facilites.coach I better be a good pitchman.if not his stay at akron won't last long.the a.d. dept helped drive off alott of

fans when they jacked up ticket prices. they probably thought they could charge anything since they had a new stadium.

the stadium may be new,but it's the same bad team playing.

[johnnyzip84]

you really think with saban we would have beat indiana.almost beat niu,ky,cuse.saban struggled his first year.

his first year at bama they finished 7-6.they lost to that power house U.L.Monroe. all people said when j.d. was here

that we needed a pro offense,and a 4-3 defense.now when we are losing games some fans want to go back to the

spread.the biggest problem is that we are going on are fourth losing season.coach I better be a good salesmen

i don't see to many players that would go to akron if they had any other d-1 offers.the one thing we do have is great

facilites.coach I better be a good pitchman.if not his stay at akron won't last long.the a.d. dept helped drive off alott of

fans when they jacked up ticket prices. they probably thought they could charge anything since they had a new stadium.

the stadium may be new,but it's the same bad team playing.

There is no doubt most everybody was screaming for an end to the 3-3-5, but I can't recall anyone on here (much less "ALL PEOPLE") demanding a pro-style offense.

[Dr Z]

I can't recall anyone on here (much less "ALL PEOPLE") demanding a pro-style offense.

I agree, not a big demand....but, can you imagine running the spread with our wideouts?

[K92]

There are some coaches that design their schemes according to their talent and others that try to make their talent fit their schemes.

Coach I appears to be trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Coach I came from a pro style offense. That is probably what he knows.

How many coaches go with a scheme they don't know and continue with the current/former one? Give me an example.

I can give one, it turned out to be the correct move, but at the time it was highly controversial among the fans.

Tommy Tuberville?

I also give a lot respect Nick Saban and Rick Neuheisel for taking their offensive coaches out to Nevada to learn the pistol from Chris Ault this past off season. Takes courage to grow.