zip403 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! All we can do is hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! All we can do is hope! Hope.......for Akron to suddenly have the kind of money that a school like Arizona has, which allows them to make that kind of decision. And...was this Arizona coach only 1-1/2 years into a 5 year contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! All we can do is hope! Hope.......for Akron to suddenly have the kind of money that a school like Arizona has, which allows them to make that kind of decision. And...was this Arizona coach only 1-1/2 years into a 5 year contract? His current contract runs through 2013. The buyout "only" cost them 1.4 million, which sounds relatively small to me (BCS conference and all). I'm not implying that we can afford to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! All we can do is hope! Hope.......for Akron to suddenly have the kind of money that a school like Arizona has, which allows them to make that kind of decision. And...was this Arizona coach only 1-1/2 years into a 5 year contract? So how many here would be okay with a 5-55 record after 5 seasons if his wins and losses continue on the current path? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! All we can do is hope! Hope.......for Akron to suddenly have the kind of money that a school like Arizona has, which allows them to make that kind of decision. And...was this Arizona coach only 1-1/2 years into a 5 year contract? So how many here would be okay with a 5-55 record after 5 seasons if his wins and losses continue on the current path? Actually, he is on pace for 6.7 wins. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! All we can do is hope! Hope.......for Akron to suddenly have the kind of money that a school like Arizona has, which allows them to make that kind of decision. And...was this Arizona coach only 1-1/2 years into a 5 year contract? So how many here would be okay with a 5-55 record after 5 seasons if his wins and losses continue on the current path? Actually, he is on pace for 6.7 wins. :-) Okay...6.7-53.3 Now I feel much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Mike Stoops is from the Youngstown area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Mike Stoops is from the Youngstown areaHe's bringing down their unemployment rate, although he might be able to land a top job watching replays on a monitor like JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 After a 1-5 start Arizona has fired their Head Coach CONGRATS to U of Arizona for stepping up and doing the right thing. PERHAPS another UA school would have enough GUTS to do the SAME THING !!! All we can do is hope! Hope.......for Akron to suddenly have the kind of money that a school like Arizona has, which allows them to make that kind of decision. And...was this Arizona coach only 1-1/2 years into a 5 year contract? So how many here would be okay with a 5-55 record after 5 seasons if his wins and losses continue on the current path? Oh, I'm not disagreeing with your logic at all. I'm just pointing out the remote chances of it happening, because of the financial circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipthezip Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 We should cut our losses but not a chance we would get him to come here. He will sit out the rest of the season and got another chance somewhere next year. At worse, he goes and works for one of his brothers. We had our shot at a Stoops and missed by hiring Owens. That chance is not coming around again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah, cause Arizona didn't give Stoops 7 seasons to get his stuff together. Really Arizona is a lesson in sticking with your coach. He went 3-8 his first two seasons and didn't make a bowl game until his 5th. It was the awful performances starting mid season last year with no hint of there being a turn around. The bottom line is he took an awful program and gave it some hope for a couple of seasons, and they reward him by dumping him because he had a rough go of things. And you wonder why coaches chase money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah, cause Arizona didn't give Stoops 7 seasons to get his stuff together. Really Arizona is a lesson in sticking with your coach. He went 3-8 his first two seasons and didn't make a bowl game until his 5th. It was the awful performances starting mid season last year with no hint of there being a turn around. The bottom line is he took an awful program and gave it some hope for a couple of seasons, and they reward him by dumping him because he had a rough go of things. And you wonder why coaches chase money. This Stoops was 41-50 overall at UofA. He was 27-38 in the PAC whatever. I lived in AZ for a while. The rivalry between ASU and UA is cutthroat in ALL sports,f.ball,b.ball,baseball and checkers. OSU-Michigan is close. ASU is having some success with Erickson. Probably the only reason he got another year at ASU is because UA has been worse. Stoops will get a job as a highly paid assistant somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip403 Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah, cause Arizona didn't give Stoops 7 seasons to get his stuff together. Really Arizona is a lesson in sticking with your coach. He went 3-8 his first two seasons and didn't make a bowl game until his 5th. It was the awful performances starting mid season last year with no hint of there being a turn around. The bottom line is he took an awful program and gave it some hope for a couple of seasons, and they reward him by dumping him because he had a rough go of things. And you wonder why coaches chase money. I agree,,BUT RI and his staff have taken an AVERAGE FOOTBALL TEAM and run it into the ground,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah, cause Arizona didn't give Stoops 7 seasons to get his stuff together. Really Arizona is a lesson in sticking with your coach. He went 3-8 his first two seasons and didn't make a bowl game until his 5th. It was the awful performances starting mid season last year with no hint of there being a turn around. The bottom line is he took an awful program and gave it some hope for a couple of seasons, and they reward him by dumping him because he had a rough go of things. And you wonder why coaches chase money. I agree,,BUT RI and his staff have taken an AVERAGE FOOTBALL TEAM and run it into the ground,,, We haven't been average in 6 seasons. We have been below average in the MAC for the same length of time. Exactly what "average football team" are you referring to? 2006 - 5-7; two of those wins were against non MAC schools (NC State and North Texas) meaning 3-5 in the MAC 2007 - 4-8; beat Army meaning, 3-5 in the MAC 2008 - 5-7; wins over Cuse and Army, meaning; 3-5 in the MAC 2009 - 3-9; win over Morgan St, meaning 2-6 in the MAC And if you break it down to MAC East games, its even worse, 2 wins over MAC east opponents in both 2006-7 and only 1 in both 2008-9. Brookhart's saving grace was AQ wins and beating Can't. He should have been canned after 08, but there was fear of a "bad first season at Infocision". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I agree,,BUT RI and his staff have taken an AVERAGE FOOTBALL TEAM and run it into the ground,,, Our standards have been conditioned to accept very low results. 3-9 is considered AVERAGE here. Probably true tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah, cause Arizona didn't give Stoops 7 seasons to get his stuff together. Really Arizona is a lesson in sticking with your coach. He went 3-8 his first two seasons and didn't make a bowl game until his 5th. It was the awful performances starting mid season last year with no hint of there being a turn around. The bottom line is he took an awful program and gave it some hope for a couple of seasons, and they reward him by dumping him because he had a rough go of things. And you wonder why coaches chase money. I agree,,BUT RI and his staff have taken an AVERAGE FOOTBALL TEAM and run it into the ground,,, We haven't been average in 6 seasons. We have been below average in the MAC for the same length of time. Exactly what "average football team" are you referring to? 2006 - 5-7; two of those wins were against non MAC schools (NC State and North Texas) meaning 3-5 in the MAC 2007 - 4-8; beat Army meaning, 3-5 in the MAC 2008 - 5-7; wins over Cuse and Army, meaning; 3-5 in the MAC 2009 - 3-9; win over Morgan St, meaning 2-6 in the MAC And if you break it down to MAC East games, its even worse, 2 wins over MAC east opponents in both 2006-7 and only 1 in both 2008-9. Brookhart's saving grace was AQ wins and beating Can't. He should have been canned after 08, but there was fear of a "bad first season at Infocision". I would prefer the above records over what we're going to have with Ianello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yeah, cause Arizona didn't give Stoops 7 seasons to get his stuff together. Really Arizona is a lesson in sticking with your coach. He went 3-8 his first two seasons and didn't make a bowl game until his 5th. It was the awful performances starting mid season last year with no hint of there being a turn around. The bottom line is he took an awful program and gave it some hope for a couple of seasons, and they reward him by dumping him because he had a rough go of things. And you wonder why coaches chase money. I agree,,BUT RI and his staff have taken an AVERAGE FOOTBALL TEAM and run it into the ground,,, We haven't been average in 6 seasons. We have been below average in the MAC for the same length of time. Exactly what "average football team" are you referring to? 2006 - 5-7; two of those wins were against non MAC schools (NC State and North Texas) meaning 3-5 in the MAC 2007 - 4-8; beat Army meaning, 3-5 in the MAC 2008 - 5-7; wins over Cuse and Army, meaning; 3-5 in the MAC 2009 - 3-9; win over Morgan St, meaning 2-6 in the MAC And if you break it down to MAC East games, its even worse, 2 wins over MAC east opponents in both 2006-7 and only 1 in both 2008-9. Brookhart's saving grace was AQ wins and beating Can't. He should have been canned after 08, but there was fear of a "bad first season at Infocision". I would prefer the above records over what we're going to have with Ianello. Sorry...neither are acceptable. If ICoach does not win next year then this rebuilding effort, and the pain that goes with it, will have been for nothing. Although I am patient...I expect 5-3 at the minimum next year in the MAC. And next year will be more difficult, the crossover games will include Toledo and N llinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 If ICoach does not win next year then this rebuilding effort, and the pain that goes with it, will have been for nothing. Although I am patient...I expect 5-3 at the minimum next year in the MAC. And next year will be more difficult, the crossover games will include Toledo and N llinois.Next year is my year of "make or break" me as a fan too. I better see some results from this process the fans have been put through for the past year and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Doug, do you have confirmation Toledo will be on the schedule next year? It has been a while since we played them. It would be nice to play them as an away game. That way I could see the Zips 8 times next year with short trips to the Glass Bowl and Dick Stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Doug, do you have confirmation Toledo will be on the schedule next year? It has been a while since we played them. It would be nice to play them as an away game. That way I could see the Zips 8 times next year with short trips to the Glass Bowl and Dick Stadium. No...just logic. They can't keep ducking us forever Agreed...would like to play N. Illinois at home and Toledo on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I could have placed this in a number of threads, but decided it fits as well here as any other. I pay a fair amount of attention to the "lower level" of FBS football, mainly because I'm always curious about how others programs with similar challenges to UA are managing. Lately I've found myself following UL-Lafayette, primarily because of the terrific job Hudspeth is doing in his 1st year there as HC. Dave in Green has pointed out on numerous occasions that none of us can say with great certainty whether a successful lower division HC or a BCS level coordinator/assistant will make a better head coaching hire at a school like UA. Fair enough. But what if you could hire a guy who is BOTH? Well UL-Lafayette did just that when they hired former Mississippi St passing coodinator/WR coach Mark Hudspeth, who also had considerable success as HC at D-2 North Alabama. I realize you're cutting your hiring pool way down by only looking at individuals with BOTH qualifications, but the Ragin' Cajuns success this year does give me cause to wonder. Also check out the attendence figures at ULL's 1st 4 games at Cajun Field:Nicholls State 28,741Florida Atlantic 26,339Troy State 29,775North Texas 32,823 - largest crowd ever for a game between 2 Sun Belt Conference members (conference game)Compare this to last year's home crowds:Arkansas State 15,103Middle Tennessee State 17,249Oklahoma State 25,881Western Kentucky 15,641Florida International 13,041This is how a program is turned around. I don't know if we have the same level of "dormant fandom" here in Akron, but I'd sure like to find out some day.And just to bring this full circle, UL-Lafayette travels to Tuscon to face the Wildcats the last regular season game of 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 When there are 500 or so actual butts in the seats for a UA football game, it's no longer called a crowd. It's more like a get together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip403 Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 When there are 500 or so actual butts in the seats for a UA football game, it's no longer called a crowd. It's more like a get together.After a 2-5 start, TULANE HEAD COACH Bob Toledo RESIGNS. HEY COACH I,,, please follow this mans lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 When there are 500 or so actual butts in the seats for a UA football game, it's no longer called a crowd. It's more like a get together.After a 2-5 start, TULANE HEAD COACH Bob Toledo RESIGNS. HEY COACH I,,, please follow this mans leadWouldn't it be awesome if Tim Beckman changed his name to Tim Tulane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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