Empty Seats that are paid for by ????

[Hilltopper]

It looks like we are going to have a 50% increase in paid attendance this season. Anyone who has actually attended a game this year can verify that those sales figures do not accurately reflect the actual number of people at the game. I would guesstimate that someone is paying for 8-10 K seats per game. If that is true there should be about $ 400-500k per season in income generated from those sales. I propose that we use that to buy out Ianellos contract. I would rather take my chances on not meeting the 15k attendance requirement. If we can get a decent coach, the ticket sales will take care of themselves.

[bobbyake]

It looks like we are going to have a 50% increase in paid attendance this season. Anyone who has actually attended a game this year can verify that those sales figures do not accurately reflect the actual number of people at the game. I would guesstimate that someone is paying for 8-10 K seats per game. If that is true there should be about $ 400-500k per season in income generated from those sales. I propose that we use that to buy out Ianellos contract. I would rather take my chances on not meeting the 15k attendance requirement. If we can get a decent coach, the ticket sales will take care of themselves.

it's 54.5% http://zipsnation.org/forums//index.php?sh...3874&st=120

[zipseuph]

There are so many opportunities for free tickets it's insane. I can personally get 3 free tickets and a parking pass.

[bobbyake]

There are so many opportunities for free tickets it's insane. I can personally get 3 free tickets and a parking pass.

were there any free tickets going around for soccer? Could use that info for next year when I bring guests.

[zipseuph]

There are so many opportunities for free tickets it's insane. I can personally get 3 free tickets and a parking pass.

were there any free tickets going around for soccer? Could use that info for next year when I bring guests.

only free ticket I know of for soccer is military I.d for regular season games.

[MaxZIP]

The truth will come when the financials are released. All of the phantom people in the stands do not add to the bottom line.

[Dave in Green]

Anyone can purchase blocks of tickets for promotions, whether it's a sponsor getting a block of tickets as part of their paid sponsorship package, or a school purchasing a block of tickets from themselves to use for the school's own promotional purposes. It should all show up on the books somewhere. If UA's books are open to the public, there should be a line item somewhere that could be checked. Maybe someone on the forum knows where we can go to check this out.

I don't know how the NCAA would count tickets purchased by a university toward minimum required FBS attendance numbers. It would be a simple bookkeeping entry for schools to purchase large blocks of tickets from themselves for every home game without any cash changing hands. This would be so obvious that you would expect the NCAA to be aware of the possibility and have rules against it with some form of checks and balances. If not, then the NCAA FBS minimum attendance figures would be meaningless and nothing to be concerned about.

Since there were so many additional fans at the Can't game compared with other home games this season, it's certainly plausible that UA could have distributed extra tickets as part of some kind of UA promotion for this one game, though I don't recall seeing any UA promotion being marketed. It's also possible the NCAA may allow schools to do this with a certain percentage of their tickets at one home game per season.

There's a document on the NCAA site that tells a lot, but not every minute detail, about how the NCAA counts attendance, and how it requires each school to provide the NCAA with an audit of those numbers. Here's a link to it for those who want to take the time to become more educated:

NCAA FBS Requirements Q&A

[Lee Adams]

Anyone can purchase blocks of tickets for promotions, whether it's a sponsor getting a block of tickets as part of their paid sponsorship package, or a school purchasing a block of tickets from themselves to use for the school's own promotional purposes. It should all show up on the books somewhere. If UA's books are open to the public, there should be a line item somewhere that could be checked. Maybe someone on the forum knows where we can go to check this out.

I don't know how the NCAA would count tickets purchased by a university toward minimum required FBS attendance numbers. It would be a simple bookkeeping entry for schools to purchase large blocks of tickets from themselves for every home game without any cash changing hands. This would be so obvious that you would expect the NCAA to be aware of the possibility and have rules against it with some form of checks and balances. If not, then the NCAA FBS minimum attendance figures would be meaningless and nothing to be concerned about.

Since there were so many additional fans at the Can't game compared with other home games this season, it's certainly plausible that UA could have distributed extra tickets as part of some kind of UA promotion for this one game, though I don't recall seeing any UA promotion being marketed. It's also possible the NCAA may allow schools to do this with a certain percentage of their tickets at one home game per season.

There's a document on the NCAA site that tells a lot, but not every minute detail, about how the NCAA counts attendance, and how it requires each school to provide the NCAA with an audit of those numbers. Here's a link to it for those who want to take the time to become more educated:

NCAA FBS Requirements Q&A

So if I am reading correctly,they could sell a bunch of tickets for only 1/3 of the established price of regular admission tickets? So 2 for one(1/2 of regular admission) would legitimately count as 2 PAID attendances? How often have they done something like that?

[skip-zip]

Anyone can purchase blocks of tickets for promotions, whether it's a sponsor getting a block of tickets as part of their paid sponsorship package, or a school purchasing a block of tickets from themselves to use for the school's own promotional purposes. It should all show up on the books somewhere. If UA's books are open to the public, there should be a line item somewhere that could be checked. Maybe someone on the forum knows where we can go to check this out.

I don't know how the NCAA would count tickets purchased by a university toward minimum required FBS attendance numbers. It would be a simple bookkeeping entry for schools to purchase large blocks of tickets from themselves for every home game without any cash changing hands. This would be so obvious that you would expect the NCAA to be aware of the possibility and have rules against it with some form of checks and balances. If not, then the NCAA FBS minimum attendance figures would be meaningless and nothing to be concerned about.

Since there were so many additional fans at the Can't game compared with other home games this season, it's certainly plausible that UA could have distributed extra tickets as part of some kind of UA promotion for this one game, though I don't recall seeing any UA promotion being marketed. It's also possible the NCAA may allow schools to do this with a certain percentage of their tickets at one home game per season.

There's a document on the NCAA site that tells a lot, but not every minute detail, about how the NCAA counts attendance, and how it requires each school to provide the NCAA with an audit of those numbers. Here's a link to it for those who want to take the time to become more educated:

NCAA FBS Requirements Q&A

So if I am reading correctly,they could sell a bunch of tickets for only 1/3 of the established price of regular admission tickets? So 2 for one(1/2 of regular admission) would legitimately count as 2 PAID attendances? How often have they done something like that?

To the best of my knowledge, not since the old Acme-Zip games.

[Dave in Green]

@Lee Adams, you are right. The NCAA says:

Tickets must be sold for at least one-third of the highest regular established ticket price as established prior to the season, regardless of whether they are used for admission in order to be used in calculating paid attendance figures. Tickets sold at less than one-third of the highest regular established price may be counted as paid attendance only if they are used for admission.