GP1 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 This is what is wrong with NE Ohio sports writers. They are as desperate as the fans. Like Newt Gingrich, they think all of their ideas are good ideas and feel the need to put them out in public. Most ideas aren't very good and shouldn't be said. Flynn being the starting QB of the Browns is one of those ideas. Why? I saw this comparison on Deadspin the other day and it fits well. If a .500 journeyman pitcher throws a perfect game, does that make him a Hall of Famer, or does it make him a guy who had a really good day on the mound? Flynn is the journeyman pitcher who threw a perfect games. Making him something other than that is desperation thinking. As a Steelers fan, I can say I like the idea of the Browns picking up another QB who won't do anyting because the entire franchise is crap. So YES Browns, give him $10 million a year. He's worth every penny...look what he did in that one game and you know he will do that every week. Ignore everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I would venture to guess that if you search every cities local papers you could find an article close to this one. If I remember right, right before they drafted Ben, Marc Bulger could possible become a free agent and some writer in Pittsburgh was all for going after him since he is from Pittsburgh. I liked Marla's story on what coach she thought the Zips should go after too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I would venture to guess that if you search every cities local papers you could find an article close to this one. Sure enough. However, NE Ohio writers have an ability to come up with the most extreme bad ideas formed into words (See Pluto's "idea" that LO should be on TB's staff). Flynn is one of those examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I saw this comparison on Deadspin the other day and it fits well. If a .500 journeyman pitcher throws a perfect game, does that make him a Hall of Famer, or does it make him a guy who had a really good day on the mound? This guy became a Hall of Famer by doing that. However to respond to the statement, yes it is desperation thinking, and I am not even a Browns fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 This guy became a Hall of Famer by doing that. I was a little skeptical of your position here, but after looking at the stats, I can't put up much of an agrument against what you said other than that he pitched for a long time. Went five years without a winning season at the start of career and only had two 20 win seasons. I had no idea and would have thought the numbers would have been better. The baseball HofF rewards guys who can play for a long time as it is a statistical driven sport more than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 For much of my professional career I was on the road and read hundreds of newspaper sports sections in hundreds of different cities around the country. This type of story is not unique to NEO. I've read so many different stories like this in so many different newspapers in so many different cities across the country that I could almost anticipate what was going to be in the following paragraphs as I was reading along. Basically this story reflects the thinking of a lot of fans who are speculating about the Browns QB situation. Browns management won't commit to Colt McCoy being the starting QB next season, so everyone is looking around to see who might be available. It's pure journalism 101 that Matt Flynn is the hot story of the week based on his record-setting performance against the Lions. Marla Ridenour does a nice job of describing why Flynn would be a potential candidate for the Browns, and she also does a nice job of describing the risks of going after a 26-year-old NFL QB who does not have a large body of work to be measured. It's a well-balanced story written by a sound journalist. I expect that the Matt Flynn story will be played out in sports sections across the country wherever an NFL team might be in need of a new QB. I also expect to see many other local stories like this one in the ABJ and PD about other potential Browns QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Let's check the Holmgren track record. Adding a player like Flynn is 100% his MO. In GB they added Brett Favre from Atlanta after he sat there and didn't play. In Seattle they added Hasselback who threw 30 passes in two years at GB. I would say Flynn operates in a west coast offense and fits the mold of Holmgren acquiring QBs -- seems like a logical connection to me even if Marla didn't point that piece out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Let's check the Holmgren track record. Adding a player like Flynn is 100% his MO. In GB they added Brett Favre from Atlanta after he sat there and didn't play. In Seattle they added Hasselback who threw 30 passes in two years at GB. I would say Flynn operates in a west coast offense and fits the mold of Holmgren acquiring QBs -- seems like a logical connection to me even if Marla didn't point that piece out. Good points. Maybe he can get the Browns up to 6-7 wins a year in the next three year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Don't forget in the new CBA, you have to spend money. Top 50 Free Agents 2012 Flynn rates #25. If I were a Browns fan, I would want Dwayne Bowe. A lot of fans question Flynn's arm strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jem101 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I was a little skeptical of your position here, but after looking at the stats, I can't put up much of an agrument against what you said other than that he pitched for a long time. Went five years without a winning season at the start of career and only had two 20 win seasons. I had no idea and would have thought the numbers would have been better. The baseball HofF rewards guys who can play for a long time as it is a statistical driven sport more than most. As impressive as Ryan's no-hitters are, they're not why he's in the Hall. He's in the Hall because he racked up over 300 career W's. That is an automatic Hall bid, just like 500 HRs (Although that may not be so sure anymore.) We may not see another 300 game winner for a very long time. It's just not happening anymore in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdt1420 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Have a hard time comparing someone to a career journeyman simply because he never beat out Rodgers for the starting spot. Also can't see how taking someone who has done anything in his only nfl starts is more desperate than taking a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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