Captain Kangaroo Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 The Plain Dealer reports Toledo expects convicted manslaughter and aggravated assault convict Ray Williams will report for spring football. He is already working out with the team. Marshall has officially been replaced in the MAC.Miami officials confirm football coach Tim Cooper was arrested for DUI last week. No truth the the rumor he was just trying to beef up his resume' for an assistant's job w/Solich @ OU.Former Miami coach John Wauford, fameous for punching a Marshall fan on the field, has left his most recent employer - Can't State University, to pursue a job at Findlay College. Wauford was quoted as saying: "There are simply more fans to punch at Findlay games than Can't State games." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplock Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 The Plain Dealer reports Toledo expects convicted manslaughter and aggravated assault convict Ray Williams will report for spring football. He is already working out with the team. Marshall has officially been replaced in the MAC.Miami officials confirm football coach Tim Cooper was arrested for DUI last week. No truth the the rumor he was just trying to beef up his resume' for an assistant's job w/Solich @ OU.Former Miami coach John Wauford, fameous for punching a Marshall fan on the field, has left his most recent employer - Can't State University, to pursue a job at Findlay College. Wauford was quoted as saying: "There are simply more fans to punch at Findlay games than Can't State games." Go Zips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno aka Menace Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Truelya classic post destined for the hall of fame!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msopher Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 The Plain Dealer reports Toledo expects convicted manslaughter and aggravated assault convict Ray Williams will report for spring football. He is already working out with the team. Marshall has officially been replaced in the MAC. The guy got off easy but has supposedly turned his life around, enrolled at Toledo, and beginning to earn a degree. Amstutz is giving this guy a chance. He is not guaranteed a spot on the football team nor is he expected to make any contribution. The guy was a former Mr. Football in Ohio, but in reality Toledo is already loaded at RB and doesn't really need him.Still, the story of a former convict trying out for the team does not help Toledo's image. But if this guy gets his life straightened out, makes the team, and is as good as advertised, he may bring Toledo and the MAC to a different spotlight in NCAA football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 He was force by the judge to enroll in a college and start class or goto jail....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 He was force by the judge to enroll in a college and start class or goto jail.......Go to UT or go to jail?....how long of jail sentence?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 But if this guy gets his life straightened out, makes the team, and is as good as advertised, he may bring Toledo and the MAC to a different spotlight in NCAA football. Replace "Toledo" with "Marshall" and you've got a well-used Coach Pruett line...probably used it a thousand times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipthezip Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 He could have been forced to enroll at Can't but that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fear the brown roo Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Can't didn't want him, they only accept sexually related felons like the db they had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 What I wonder about this Ray Williams deal is ... who is paying for his education?Is this convicted felon on a football scholarship? Or, is he on state aid there bygiving Toledo a "free" player funded by us the Ohio taxpayer? He sure as hellis not going to college on his own nickel.Enquiring minds want to know. <pun intended> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msopher Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 But if this guy gets his life straightened out, makes the team, and is as good as advertised, he may bring Toledo and the MAC to a different spotlight in NCAA football.Replace "Toledo" with "Marshall" and you've got a well-used Coach Pruett line...probably used it a thousand times. Whatever. You don't even know the whole story. You spun the truth to stir the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msopher Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 What I wonder about this Ray Williams deal is ... who is paying for his education?Is this convicted felon on a football scholarship? Or, is he on state aid there bygiving Toledo a "free" player funded by us the Ohio taxpayer? He sure as hellis not going to college on his own nickel.Enquiring minds want to know. <pun intended> Either he is getting financial aid or his parents/guardian is paying for his education. He does not have any scholarship with Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 But if this guy gets his life straightened out, makes the team, and is as good as advertised, he may bring Toledo and the MAC to a different spotlight in NCAA football.Replace "Toledo" with "Marshall" and you've got a well-used Coach Pruett line...probably used it a thousand times. Whatever. You don't even know the whole story. You spun the truth to stir the pot. I know the whole story. It was in the Cleveland papers for several months.Ray Williams was convicted (not accused) of manslaughter and aggravated assault (not speeding and improper lane changing).There's no spinning manslaughter and aggravated assault...unless you are the one trying to diminish it's severity.The Zips can win a division and MAC title without Ray Williams. We proved it. After last season, it is apparent Toledo feels it now needs some sort of edge to acheive the same level? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Rocket fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msopher Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 We won a MAC title in 2001, 2004. I don't recall anyone on those teams being convicts.Plus, Williams wasn't recruited by Toledo. He enrolled at Toledo when a judge told him to get into college and start his education. He is a walk-on attempting to earn a spot on the team. Granted, their is a potential back lash if things go south, but Williams is generally being ignored by Rocket fans because we don't need him.Also, achieve the same level? You win 1 MAC title and already you feel like you are the top dawg in the conference? Let me bring you down to earth. 7-6 is not that good of a record even with a MAC title. Plus, I know Toledo represented the MAC well this year in its bowl games, but I'm sad to say that Akron did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liljc Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Ahem, msopher. I was going to ignore your response and let you have your say, but then you said Akron did not represent the MAC well in the Motor City Bowl. You are WRONG. The Zips got beat, but the played with heart and with pride and left everything on the field. They had nothing to be ashamed of, and represented the MAC just fine. We'll see you in Toledo this fall, you just have your boys ready. :macc: :macc: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 I know Toledo represented the MAC well this year in its bowl games, but I'm sad to say that Akron did not.Can you please refresh the Zips fans regarding your last couple trips to the Motor City Bowl? You guys REALLY represented the MAC well!!! Toledo Beatdown #1 - Click for Gory DetailsToledo Beatdown #2 - Click for More Gory DetailsWhat an absolute joke to belittle Akron's effort in this year's MCB. Don't you think ESPN reaches Summit County?Good luck with Lawrence Phillips...or Ray Williams...or whomever you picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanie 4 Heisman Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 those were 2 great efforts by Toledo. Great Job lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hell, I make more of an 'effort' when constipated on the shitter!!! Way to go Toledo!!! :macc: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 ut's demolition of a good utep team in the gmac bowl was impressive. probably the high point for mac football for the year. they did the mac proud. and everyone i talked to thought akron represented the mac well. memphis just beat them that day, almost exclusively due to deangelo williams. no disgrace there. he's great. but really, this talk about how awful it is that toledo is giving raymond williams a second chance is a bit much to take. does anyone here seriously think that if williams was enrolling at akron and trying out as a walk-on that zip fans would be ripping jd? of course not. the toledo fans would be doing that!btw, the ut mcb blow-out last year against uconn was a direct result of their losing qb gradkowski and rb scooter mcdougal in the mac conferecne game against miami. ut went into that game crippled. their blow-out loss to boston college was because bc was the superior team. i love akron, but toledo's a good program and tom amstutz is a good coach and a good guy, and it's not being disloyal to akron to point that out.in any mac - non-mac matchup in any sport, i always pull for the mac team. well, except for one mac team. it's always fun to watch them lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msopher Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 ut's demolition of a good utep team in the gmac bowl was impressive. probably the high point for mac football for the year. they did the mac proud. and everyone i talked to thought akron represented the mac well. memphis just beat them that day, almost exclusively due to deangelo williams. no disgrace there. he's great. but really, this talk about how awful it is that toledo is giving raymond williams a second chance is a bit much to take. does anyone here seriously think that if williams was enrolling at akron and trying out as a walk-on that zip fans would be ripping jd? of course not. the toledo fans would be doing that!btw, the ut mcb blow-out last year against uconn was a direct result of their losing qb gradkowski and rb scooter mcdougal in the mac conferecne game against miami. ut went into that game crippled. their blow-out loss to boston college was because bc was the superior team. i love akron, but toledo's a good program and tom amstutz is a good coach and a good guy, and it's not being disloyal to akron to point that out.in any mac - non-mac matchup in any sport, i always pull for the mac team. well, except for one mac team. it's always fun to watch them lose. I wanted to type that earlier but I thought no Akron fan would understand. Apparently, I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 in any mac - non-mac matchup in any sport, i always pull for the mac team. well, except for one mac team. it's always fun to watch them lose.I must have been sleeping. When did the Suckeyes join the MAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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