GP1 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Link Maybe a couple of weeks ago, we discussed pass rushers vs. run stoppers. I like run stoppers with athletic talent to disrupt the QB. I think and have posted this as far back as the JD days, most teams should play a type of 4-2-5 defense on most plays. Rushing really good QBs in 2012 with upwards of 5 guys when the offense is using 5 WRs can be suicide. The link above shows in two of the three cases a defense rushing only four and defending with seven. There are no passing lanes and the entire field is covered behind the line. Houston has the type of DLinemen we need to develop. They are great at stopping the run and can block passes at the line. Good pass defense starts with QB disruption. It doesn't always have to equal a sack. A ball batted at the line can be just as good, if not better, than a sack as it can lead to an INT. I hope as the Zips look at what kind of DLine they want in coming years. I hope this type of DLineman is exactly the type of player they are looking at. If we had more guys like him against Miami, we could have defended their QB better. It's 2012. Rush four and cover. Many will say it is "playing not to lose" or a "prevent defense" or whatever cliche they want to bring out of the 20th Century. It isn't. It's responding to the innovation in the game over the past 5-10 years. The innovation of the passing game must be countered with innovation at every level of the defense and this type of player playing for Houston is the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Link Maybe a couple of weeks ago, we discussed pass rushers vs. run stoppers. I like run stoppers with athletic talent to disrupt the QB. I think and have posted this as far back as the JD days, most teams should play a type of 4-2-5 defense on most plays. Rushing really good QBs in 2012 with upwards of 5 guys when the offense is using 5 WRs can be suicide. The link above shows in two of the three cases a defense rushing only four and defending with seven. There are no passing lanes and the entire field is covered behind the line. Houston has the type of DLinemen we need to develop. They are great at stopping the run and can block passes at the line. Good pass defense starts with QB disruption. It doesn't always have to equal a sack. A ball batted at the line can be just as good, if not better, than a sack as it can lead to an INT. I hope as the Zips look at what kind of DLine they want in coming years. I hope this type of DLineman is exactly the type of player they are looking at. If we had more guys like him against Miami, we could have defended their QB better. It's 2012. Rush four and cover. Many will say it is "playing not to lose" or a "prevent defense" or whatever cliche they want to bring out of the 20th Century. It isn't. It's responding to the innovation in the game over the past 5-10 years. The innovation of the passing game must be countered with innovation at every level of the defense and this type of player playing for Houston is the future. Having ultimately no pass rush will kill our already weak secondary. Team's with good pass rushes (see the steelers) help cover for a lousy secondary by giving the CB less time that he has to be on his man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Having ultimately no pass rush will kill our already weak secondary. Team's with good pass rushes (see the steelers) help cover for a lousy secondary by giving the CB less time that he has to be on his man.If you have watched more than one Steelers game this season, you have not been paying attention to the lack of pass rush. But your overall statement is on, defenses need to make a QB uncomfortable, the Zips...and Steelers are not. 24th in the NFL For perspective, the Browns are ranked twice as high, at 12th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 If you have watched more than one Steelers game this season, you have not been paying attention to the lack of pass rush. But your overall statement is on, defenses need to make a QB uncomfortable, the Zips...and Steelers are not. 24th in the NFL For perspective, the Browns are ranked twice as high, at 12th. I've hardly watched the Steelers much this year, but at least you get my point. Im sure Harrison and Polamalu missing time has a lot to do with that. Historically they have a great pass rushing D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornholeboard Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Link Maybe a couple of weeks ago, we discussed pass rushers vs. run stoppers. I like run stoppers with athletic talent to disrupt the QB. I think and have posted this as far back as the JD days, most teams should play a type of 4-2-5 defense on most plays. Rushing really good QBs in 2012 with upwards of 5 guys when the offense is using 5 WRs can be suicide. The link above shows in two of the three cases a defense rushing only four and defending with seven. There are no passing lanes and the entire field is covered behind the line. Houston has the type of DLinemen we need to develop. They are great at stopping the run and can block passes at the line. Good pass defense starts with QB disruption. It doesn't always have to equal a sack. A ball batted at the line can be just as good, if not better, than a sack as it can lead to an INT. I hope as the Zips look at what kind of DLine they want in coming years. I hope this type of DLineman is exactly the type of player they are looking at. If we had more guys like him against Miami, we could have defended their QB better. It's 2012. Rush four and cover. Many will say it is "playing not to lose" or a "prevent defense" or whatever cliche they want to bring out of the 20th Century. It isn't. It's responding to the innovation in the game over the past 5-10 years. The innovation of the passing game must be countered with innovation at every level of the defense and this type of player playing for Houston is the future. Try this against a good qb and he will pick you apart......there are holes in zone defense.....and there are routes that beat man coverage.......get pressure on the qb is the best way to stop a relentless passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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