Big Zip Posted November 19, 2012 Report Posted November 19, 2012 Interesting 100 thoughts on 100 College Basketball teams....not much information but they do predict a winning percentage for the Zips at .792 (23.75 wins). http://deadspin.com/5961804/100-thoughts-a...dium=socialflow Quote
skip-zip Posted November 19, 2012 Report Posted November 19, 2012 Interesting 100 thoughts on 100 College Basketball teams....not much information but they do predict a winning percentage for the Zips at .792 (23.75 wins). http://deadspin.com/5961804/100-thoughts-a...dium=socialflow I wonder if they made this prediction before the season, or right now? I'd be somewhat surprised if any prognosticator wouild be generous enough to say that we are only going to have 4 losses over the last 25 games, but I'll take it !! Now you have to ask, where does 24 wins put us? Certainly not at At-Large status with a horrible loss already on our resume. But, it would be ineteresting to see if that's more than good enough now for an NIT bid, hoping that minds have changed since the 2007 debacle. Quote
Dave in Green Posted November 19, 2012 Report Posted November 19, 2012 This was written before the season began. Author John Gasaway does a lot of work with Ken Pomeroy on advanced statistical analysis. The Pomeroy ratings predict which games each team is likely to win throughout the season. Obviously they become more accurate as the season goes on and game results are added into the speculative calculations. Typically each team loses some they were projected to win and wins some they were projected to lose. The Zips have already experienced the former and need to produce some of the latter. Quote
OZoner Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Pomeroy is currently projecting 21-8. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 The Pomeroy ratings predict which games each team is likely to win throughout the season.Should be able to quit your job and just bet on who Pomeroy picks. Hello easy street. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Pomeroy is currently projecting 21-8. 21 wins, huh? Nice job Ken. Do you and Phil Steele ever sit around and laugh at the boobs that actually take you seriously? I give you both credit for running a sweet scam. Quote
Dave in Green Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Pomeroy's math projections are based on each team playing at the same level relative to other teams throughout the season. So Pomeroy projects that a team will beat every team currently ranked below them and lose to every team currently ranked above them (with homecourt advantage factored in). If everything was linear, the Pomeroy rankings would not have to be continuously adjusted throughout the season as teams lose games they were projected to win and win games they were projected to lose. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 So it's useless? Damn, now I have to shred my resignation letter. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Pomeroy's math projections are based on each team playing at the same level relative to other teams throughout the season. So Pomeroy projects that a team will beat every team currently ranked below them and lose to every team currently ranked above them (with homecourt advantage factored in). If everything was linear, the Pomeroy rankings would not have to be continuously adjusted throughout the season as teams lose games they were projected to win and win games they were projected to lose. So using the Ken Pom rules in Vegas...if I was dealt a crappy hand, I could pull-back some money from the house since my odds went down? Year-end predictions that can be changed over the course of the year are not predictions at all. Ken Ponzi Quote
Dave in Green Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 What I appreciate about Pomeroy's formula is that it includes more variables and is generally more sophisticated and accurate than similar services. Zips fans should apreciate Pomeroy right now. While the more simplistic RPI has the Zips ranked only #137 in the country, the Pomeroy formula puts us at #58. Quote
jjackson123 Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Right above Wyoming and the one that got away (Larry Nance Jr) Quote
akronzips71 Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 What I appreciate about Pomeroy's formula is that it includes more variables and is generally more sophisticated and accurate than similar services. Zips fans should apreciate Pomeroy right now. While the more simplistic RPI has the Zips ranked only #137 in the country, the Pomeroy formula puts us at #58. That RPI will change. We are a whole lot better than #137 Quote
OZoner Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 21 wins, huh? Nice job Ken. Do you and Phil Steele ever sit around and laugh at the boobs that actually take you seriously? I give you both credit for running a sweet scam. College coaches subscribe to Pomeroy's site. He's not running a scam and his data is very useful. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 College coaches subscribe to Pomeroy's site.College coaches do a lot of erroneous things. I hesitate to make a list. Quote
OZoner Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 College coaches do a lot of erroneous things. I hesitate to make a list. They also do a lot of correct things. Point is, Pomeroy is good at what he does. Quote
Dave in Green Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 If anyone knows another source of data on college basketball with a better track record than Pomeroy, I'm always open to finding more accurate data sources. Quote
OZoner Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 I lean a little more towards Basketball State than Pomeroy. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 They also do a lot of correct things. Point is, Pomeroy is good at what he does. So was Billy Mays. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 If anyone knows another source of data on college basketball with a better track record than PomeroyYou can't afford the service, stick with Pomeroy. Quote
Dave in Green Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 I lean a little more towards Basketball State than Pomeroy. Basketball State looks interesting. Thanks for sharing the good info. Quote
OZoner Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 So was Billy Mays. I've seen a few non-sequiturs today, but that might be the best one. Quote
OZoner Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Should be able to quit your job and just bet on who Pomeroy picks. Hello easy street. Actually, a couple years ago I won the Mid-Majority pick 'em game going almost entirely on Pomeroy's predictions. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Actually, a couple years ago I won the Mid-Majority pick 'em game going almost entirely on Pomeroy's predictions.Sometimes bad information can be used for good. PS. You can do the same with Chris Berman...if you can stand his voice. Quote
OZoner Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Did he predict Buffalo and San Fran in the Super Bowl again? Quote
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