Support Coach Kennedy

[zippyrifle32]

Pat Summitt does kind of look like a dude.

i do give you that.

[Captain Kangaroo]

How many female coaches were there in the men's elite eight?

I don't think there were any female coaches, but this chick sure kicked some ass in the finals:

[w00t]

oh and w00t, pat summitt of tennessee is a woman.

Thank you zippyrifle, that was the joke.

Now I understand why feminism exists. To prove a$$holes like you, wrong.

msopher, I suppose women can play as well as the men too, right? Anyone can come and talk to me about women's and men's sports being equal when the Akron women's team beats the Akron men's team or when the women's Final Four eclipses the men's in TV ratings or revenue generated. Until then, I'll tolerate women's sports (without wasting my time watching them) and try not to get too bitter about the fact that in college (and even in the WNBA if I'm not mistaken) the men's sports financially prop up the women's sports (which, to reiterate, generate no revenue because nobody watches them)."Sexist" in this day and age is merely PC-speak for "does not shy away from asserting facts no matter whose delicate sensibilities they offend."

[w00t]

AMAZING NUMBERS* Summitt has faced 153 opponents in 1,054 total games and teams from 32 conferences* 47.0% of her 1,054 total games have been played versus ranked teams (497 total games against ranked opponents) with 355 victories versus ranked opponents* 137 all-time Lady Vols have contributed to 882 wins* 70% of those all-time players have gone on to be decorated as Olympians, All- Americans, USA National Team members, All-SEC performers, Academic All-Americans, Academic All-SEC,

AMAZING FACTS* All of those 153 opponents from 32 conferences were women's teams, all 1,054 games were against women's teams * All 47.0% of those 1,054 ranked opponents were women's teams* All 137 all-time Lady Vols were, um, ladies and all 882 wins were for the women's team* All of the Olympians, All-Americans, USA National Team Members, All-SEC performers, Academic All-Americans, Academic All-SEC, etc. were *wait for it* ... women.When Pat Summit's Lady Vols topple Duke's Male Blue Devils, then we'll have a basis for comparison won't we? And are we really trying to equate Pat Summit with John Wooden? C'mon.LOL, Captain Kangaroo, that's hilarious! I like that kid though, he's a fiery, energetic competitor and enjoys the college game.

[InTheZone]

I've actually talked to a lot of female athletes who say they prefer men as coaches because they feel like they exude more authority and command more respect. You can't get better with a coach you can run all over and you feel like is on your level was a point one girl made to me. Obviously there are exceptions, such as Pat Summit, whose got enough manly qualities to make anyone have a healthy fear of her, but I think a male coach would definately be worth a look for these girls who not only have played with no skill over the past four years, but no discipline as well.

[zen]

Support Coach Kennedy

Okay*packs her bags*

[zipsbandman]

Discipline is what separates the good teams from the bad teams in ladies hoops. The bad teams are downright depressing to watch, and that's why you get so much parity in womens' hoops. Kennedy was a sweet person, but did she really get in these girls' faces and instill any discipline on this team? Akron may need to consider a guy or a sheman like Summitt.

[zippyrifle32]

msopher, I suppose women can play as well as the men too, right?  Anyone can come and talk to me about women's and men's sports being equal when the Akron women's team beats the Akron men's team

that's what's nice about rifle we're all on equal footing competiting against each other (except when you get to the international level because the men changed things after a women beat them) just because men and women play a different style of game doesn't mean one is worse than the other. maybe you don't enjoy watching women's basketball and that's fine. personally i like all non-professional basketball.i'm just saying the qualities that we need in the next coach aren't directly related to gender. don't count out the women because they can be just as successful, but don't limit yourself to a woman either. they need to hire based on experience and a good resume not whether they have a penis or vagina.

[InTheZone]

msopher, I suppose women can play as well as the men too, right?   Anyone can come and talk to me about women's and men's sports being equal when the Akron women's team beats the Akron men's team

that's what's nice about rifle we're all on equal footing competiting against each other (except when you get to the international level because the men changed things after a women beat them) just because men and women play a different style of game doesn't mean one is worse than the other. maybe you don't enjoy watching women's basketball and that's fine. personally i like all non-professional basketball.i'm just saying the qualities that we need in the next coach aren't directly related to gender. don't count out the women because they can be just as successful, but don't limit yourself to a woman either. they need to hire based on experience and a good resume not whether they have a penis or vagina.

There are a lot more differences between men and women than just a penis and a vagina, no matter what our PC culture tries to tell you. Men and women are equal, but created differently. The way this team is we may need a man for the job to instill some respect and discipline.

[zippyrifle32]

why do you guys seem to think that a woman is incapable of doing that? like i said before, it's been shown that women can get the job done coaching. just because kennedy was a sweet person doesn't mean that the next person is going to be the same.

[InTheZone]

why do you guys seem to think that a woman is incapable of doing that? like i said before, it's been shown that women can get the job done coaching. just because kennedy was a sweet person doesn't mean that the next person is going to be the same.

Because on the average, men in the way they are, are much more capable of instilling discipline, respect, healthy fear. That's not to say no woman can do that, but most can't because that's not in most women's nature. It's just a simple fact of life. We're much more likely to get these kinds of qualities with a man than with a woman. That's not to say that we couldn't get some pansy man who wouldn't have these qualities, or a sheman that would, but our best bet to get them is to go with a man.

[zen]

See, I would think that most of what remains of the feminist movement really are just the "feminazis" who want nothing more than cultural/political superiority for women, but then threads like this pop up and reminds us that sexism still exists.Yes, there ARE more differences between men and women than just what's between their legs. Duh. But if it makes you a feminist to think it's wrong to say men can coach better as a blanket statement, then consider me a 225lb feminist who doesn't lack testosterone.

[w00t]

just because men and women play a different style of game doesn't mean one is worse than the other.

What a cop-out, nobody said anything about style. What could style possibly have to do with it?... they're playing the same game. The bottom line is that ANY college men's team would THRASH any college women's team EVERY TIME (and you know it). I'm sorry that you'd like it to be otherwise, but it doesn't change things. Across the board, men are better at basketball than women.

then threads like this pop up and reminds us that sexism still exists.

Whatever, if it makes you a sexist to say that men are better than women at basketball across the board, then i am indeed a sexist and you reside firmly on the leftmost outskirts of the bell curve.

[zen]

then threads like this pop up and reminds us that sexism still exists.

Whatever, if it makes you a sexist to say that men are better than women at basketball across the board, then i am indeed a sexist and you reside firmly on the leftmost outskirts of the bell curve.

I don't care about your left/right bellcurve. I'm a libertarian who thinks republicans and democrats promote the liberal/conservative illusion for the purpose of making politics appear to be a legitimate battle of ideology (which it usually isn't).Regardless, if you want to come up with stats supporting your arguement either way, great. But if it's your opinion that men are just better at coaching basketball because they are men, then it's my opinion that your opinion is sexist.

[w00t]

What the heck do Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians have to do with me saying that men are better than women at basketball? People will go to such lengths to deny the obvious it pains me.

[zen]

What the heck do Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians have to do with me saying that men are better than women at basketball?  People will go to such lengths to deny the obvious it pains me.

"leftmost outskirts"Oh, and you are the one who is acting indignant. If you have nothing to be defensive about, why so upset? N'est pas?

[w00t]

"leftmost outskirts"

Heh, that's coincidence... "The Bell Curve" is a book by Charles Murray about the statistical distribution of intelligence. (To put it nicely, those on the left hand side of the bell curve wouldn't be the Rhodes Scholars).I don't know that I've even said anything about the comparative quality of coaches across gender lines (although my opinion would be that it appears that there's slightly less disparity there than in terms of comparing their athletic ability, but not much), but anyhow, answer me this... How many women are there coaching D-I men's teams? How many men are coaching D-I women's teams?"We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." - George Orwell

[zen]

Having a minor in psychology, I should have recognized your comment as an insult to my intelligence. I guess I was hoping to give you enough credit to atleast sink the topic down to political debate, not pure mudslinging. Anyway, my comments weren't directed at you specifically. They were just my statement of opinion regarding what I view as sexism.

[msopher]

Vague generalizations often lead to even more scrutiny.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Akron just needs to hire a complete a-hole to coach the women. That way when they lose a 100 games in the next 4 years, no one will feel bad when they are fired.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Akron just needs to hire a complete asshole to coach the women. That way when they lose a 100 games in the next 4 years, no one will feel bad when they are fired.

Your theory has more validity than you might think: