ZachTheZip Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 TTU was picked to win the OVC this season, and Akron is flat-out embarrassing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Anyone else watching the live stream? Audio not working for me, but I'd say that's a decent crowd for an early season women's game. It wasn't working for me the whole first half. I had to go to class though so not watching now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Tennessee Tech was picked to win the Ohio Valley Conference, and the final score of 118-71 was not even an indication of how embarrassing this game was for the Golden Eagles. If our starters played the whole game, the Lady Zips could of put 130 up EASILY...150 might of been doable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 The lady Zips are very entertaining to watch. They have strong fundamentals and play very up-tempo. I try to catch most of their home games. I didn't see today's game, but from the FIU game, it looked like Plybon will replace Ruper without a beat. This team is already really good, but if they had Sina King...wow. Its unfortunate. But they do seem to have a little more depth this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Next up: AT #14(AP Poll)/#16(Coaches' Poll) Dayton, Friday night at 7:00pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Here's the most amazing part to me: 31 assists on 41 field goals! I've never heard of a college team getting over 30 assists in a game -- male or female. Ten different players had an assist. That's team basketball! The MAC looks to have two teams with possible national-ranking potential, Akron and CMU. The Chipps started their seeason with a 105-61 win over UMass of the Atlantic 10. CMU plays #7 Kentucky next, while Akron plays @ #23 Dayton Friday. #BigGame. It appears our women's basketball program may have surpassed the men's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Before it gets deleted for this season's stats, here's the stats from last season. . Lady Zips starting this season like last season never ended. I'm sure Kacie Cassell will improve on this stat as well this season. As for their opponent friday, here's Dayton HC Jim Jabir talking about his Flyers' team(and about 30 seconds of Akron) : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Five High school seniors have signed NLI today for Akron women's basketball program for class of 2014. Two from Northeast Ohio(1 from Cleveland and one from Austintown), two from Michigan, and one from Missouri. 2014 Lady Zips recruiting class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 No disrespect intended for the Lady Zips. They're obviously a good team with an exciting offense. But as I mentioned to @GoZips the other day, the Dayton game was going to be the same kind of reality check that the Gentleman Zips face every season. The Lady Zips may be the class of the MAC. But it's darn tough for an underdog team to beat a higher-ranked team on their court, as the Lady Zips learned in Dayton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 No disrespect intended for the Lady Zips. They're obviously a good team with an exciting offense. But as I mentioned to @GoZips the other day, the Dayton game was going to be the same kind of reality check that the Gentleman Zips face every season. The Lady Zips may be the class of the MAC. But it's darn tough for an underdog team to beat a higher-ranked team on their court, as the Lady Zips learned in Dayton. The first half, the Lady Zips outplayed Dayton(Zips led 45-41 at half). And other than an 18-4 run early in the 2nd half, Akron had their way with Dayton. The final score was not an indication of that game(went back and watched it). I post a lot about the Lady Zips for a few reasons. 1) Where this program is right now compared to when Kest took this program over? Many students I know think that reason alone is why Kest is a better coach than KD. 2) Just like the men's team, the recruiting classes keep getting better and better for the women's team. They now have a 5'11 point guard recruit coming in. Not many women's teams have a 5'11 point guard. 3) The style of play. Just as a fan watching, it just puts me in pain myself, watching the men's team laboring for points here and there. Then, watching the women's team, and if you turn your head for a minute, you might of missed 3-4 buckets by the Lady Zips. As a fan, I prefer watching the women's. As a coach, each style(or some call it "system") has it's advantages and disadvantages. 4) The only way a team is beating this Lady Zips team is if you play up-tempo like them, and get them to turn the ball over and get easy transition points. Lady Zips beat two teams by an average of 108-70 (that are supposed to win or be top 3 in their respective conferences), that base their program on defense(I can even post the links to prove it). I understand there's people on this board and people not on this board that don't care about women's basketball. That's fine. I'm a basketball junkie. I'll walk down a street and see kids playing 3 v 3 , 4 v 4, or 5 v 5(whatever it may be that day), and stop to watch it for a bit. Basketball is just basketball. To me, it doesn't matter who is playing it, but HOW you play it. I just wonder what this board would be like if the men's team was averaging 98.0 PPG through 3 games(that included a top 25 team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 ... I just wonder what this board would be like if the men's team was averaging 98.0 PPG through 3 games(that included a top 25 team). @mes102, I really respect your support for the Lady Zips. But I know what this board would be like if the men's team lost back-to-back games to Dayton and Wright State early in the season. You should feel relieved that you don't have to put up with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 @mes102, I really respect your support for the Lady Zips. But I know what this board would be like if the men's team lost back-to-back games to Dayton and Wright State early in the season. You should feel relieved that you don't have to put up with that. Are you suggesting that St. Mary's=Dayton and MTSU=Wright State? But for that to be the case wouldn't all those games have to be on the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Again, my comments are not intended in any way to be disrespectful to the Lady Zips. But there's a good opportunity to discuss Zips basketball in general. The Lady Zips are an exciting team that averages close to 90 points a game and leads the country in assists. Fans of the men's basketball team have wished for something like this for a long time. The Lady Zips have a superstar player who's leading the country in scoring. Again, fans of the men's team have wished for something like this rather than the balanced scoring Coach Dambrot emphasizes. But with all the great things about the Lady Zips, they've staggered to a 3-4 start, and have lost 4 of their last 5 games. When something like this happens to the men, a number of Zips fans go ballistic here and write off the Zips' season. So the question that comes to my mind is whether or not it really matters to run up high scores, lead the country in assists and have the leading scorer in the country if it doesn't translate into wins? What would fans be posting here if the men's team was in this situation? Why have fans of the women's team remained so quiet here during this losing streak? I'm just curious about the big difference in the reactions we see to the results that these two teams produce in their own very different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Again, my comments are not intended in any way to be disrespectful to the Lady Zips. But there's a good opportunity to discuss Zips basketball in general. The Lady Zips are an exciting team that averages close to 90 points a game and leads the country in assists. Fans of the men's basketball team have wished for something like this for a long time. The Lady Zips have a superstar player who's leading the country in scoring. Again, fans of the men's team have wished for something like this rather than the balanced scoring Coach Dambrot emphasizes. But with all the great things about the Lady Zips, they've staggered to a 3-4 start, and have lost 4 of their last 5 games. When something like this happens to the men, a number of Zips fans go ballistic here and write off the Zips' season. So the question that comes to my mind is whether or not it really matters to run up high scores, lead the country in assists and have the leading scorer in the country if it doesn't translate into wins? What would fans be posting here if the men's team was in this situation? Why have fans of the women's team remained so quiet here during this losing streak? I'm just curious about the big difference in the reactions we see to the results that these two teams produce in their own very different ways. This is my busiest time of year around work, and also with my "secondary" job as well. So I don't get much time to come on here like in the Fall, so I've been kind of waiting to have a day off to do this here. So, with that being said, I like the way the Lady Zips play, and it'll show dividends in conference play. However, they do play a tough schedule. Tougher schedule than the men's team IMO. They've already played 4 teams that were either in the NCAA tournament last year and/or projected to win their conference this season. Their problem is getting back into a rhythm after halftime. They've been quite unstoppable in the first half, but then come out slow in the 2nd half, and by the time they're up running and gunning again, they're in too big of a hole to get back. DIG, you're not meaning any disrespect, but it's natural and just subconsciously in your posts. Everyone does it. I was at the MAC semifinal men's soccer game and just giving a ZN.o poster an update on the Lady Zips against Dayton(up at halftime). And he said "I'm surprised you're not there. You're their biggest fan." I didn't really say anything back, but what I was thinking in my head was "Nope, not their biggest fan. Just giving them 'the time of day' that they deserve. " That's my whole point of posting about women's athletics. When soccer was on the rise, I gave them their props. But now, they don't deserve it. Losing to Can't every year under this coach so far is unacceptable. The events that happened with that program this season, were beyond puzzling. The women's basketball team deserves the credit though, because they are playing tough competition and actually being competitive with those opponents. It'll make the program better, and Kest is working out the depth of this program before MAC play starts up for the big run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 @mes102, thanks for taking the time to try to answer some of my questions. I really do appreciate the fact that you are the most loyal fan of the Lady Zips who regularly posts on ZN.o. Hopefully others will also chime in. As for who has the tougher schedule, RealTimeRPI.com currently shows the Lady Zips #205 in SOS while the men are #17. I seriously doubt that the women will have a better SOS than the men at the end of the season. Oh, and if there's unintentional but natural and subconscious disrespect in every post, then I guess there must be some in mine. Good thing it's so microscopic as to be unmeasurable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 The teams that Akron played/lost to over the weekend -- Cal Poly and UC-Davis are anything but power teams -- I watched both last year in Hawaii. Though Poly won the Big West and has one excellent player -- Molly Schlemer -- neither of them is near the caliber of a Dayton, which Akron led at halftime and played tough to the end. I will credit it to the length of the trip. I would expect Kest's ladies to beat both these if they get them at home. Not that there's much of a chance of either heading to NEO anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'm not sure what's up with this team. They have two of the top scorers in the entire country, but just can't put together a win. Maybe they need to spread the ball around a bit more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 When you're averaging a lot of points and still losing, the obvious thing that comes to mind is that your defense is not as effective as your offense. It does no good to score a lot of points if you allow your opponent to score even more. Since I haven't seen the Lady Zips play, I can only guess that they may need to put a little more focus on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Something else that should not be overlooked is how well these young women represent UA. High grade point averages, high character and high shooting percentages. Rachel Tecca recognized as nominee for 2014 Allstate WBCA Good Works Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'm not sure what's up with this team. They have two of the top scorers in the entire country, but just can't put together a win. Maybe they need to spread the ball around a bit more? With Coach Kest we got exactly what we (was it Mike Thomas who hired her?) hoped for: A coach with the reputation for building exciting aggressive offensive ballclubs which will shoot the three ball at every open opportunity -- my original scoop per former Hawaii coach Gavin Peterson who got his start under JK at TAMCC. She never promised to deliver a defensive intensity ala KD's trademark. Maybe she should hire a new defensive coordinator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Another thing to consider is that the teams they've blown out are programs that are defensive-minded. The teams they've lost to are high tempo teams like them. It'll take time, and remember women's has to go through all the same changes the men's game is going through. So that could be another reason why their defense isn't as good as the past couple seasons. Change to defensive minded? No way. Too late to do that, and also, up tempo teams are blowing out defensive minded teams. The up tempo teams are only losing to up tempo teams. Women's basketball in the MAC is turning into high scoring games like football did a few years ago, because the top teams like Ball State, Central Michigan, and Bowling Green, want to play more up-tempo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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