bigzipguy Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Finals: 1. Wisconsin 2 Maryland 1 2, Notre Dame 2 North Carolina 1 3.) Clemson 1 Duke 0 (not really an upset AND 4. At the half, Ohio State 2 Michigan State 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBZipfan Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Ouch! The Zips needed ND and Clemson to stop improving their RPI, and need MSU to do as well as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fknbuflobo Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/conference-tournament-and-key-regular-season-games-this-week.2078013/ Here is an overview of the many outcomes to be determined this critical week in NCAA soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBZipfan Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 OK, now I think we need ND to keep winning, making the Zips win over them more important. Also, we don't want Virginia to move past the Zips in RPI. Ditto Michigan, so need to root against them also ... If the Zips win the MAC, I see a #8 seed as likely ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fknbuflobo Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, MarkS said: OK, now I think we need ND to keep winning, making the Zips win over them more important. Also, we don't want Virginia to move past the Zips in RPI. Ditto Michigan, so need to root against them also ... If the Zips win the MAC, I see a #8 seed as likely ... Should Zips win the MAC Tournament (like we all hope they do), they will be right on the cusp of top 8 seed, depending on what other teams do. I am just re-phrasing your words. God, I am nervous about this weekend! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 15 hours ago, MarkS said: OK, now I think we need ND to keep winning, making the Zips win over them more important. Also, we don't want Virginia to move past the Zips in RPI. Ditto Michigan, so need to root against them also ... If the Zips win the MAC, I see a #8 seed as likely ... If we win the MACC, I actually think we could get the #4 seed. No way will the committee put 3-4 ACC teams in the top four seeds. I think rooting for any of these teams is very much a wash. They are all ACC and B1G, so they all play each other. One winning, helps the others' RPI indirectly. The one situation where I could see it benefiting the Zips is if both MSU and ND win their conference tournaments. Those two things along with the MACC would give us the four seed. While the RPI considers the entire season's resume, the committee uses wild cards, such as best current teams as consideration for seeding. If it was all done by RPI, there'd be no need for a committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Teams ahead of the Zips in RPI need to lose to open the spots for the Zips to move up. Zips have a good shot at top 8 as stated, maybe higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fknbuflobo Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Zips need to beat Cougars Friday, in regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBZipfan Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, UAZipster0305 said: No way will the committee put 3-4 ACC teams in the top four seeds. Last year 3 of the top 4 were ACC, the other was B1G: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Soccer_Championship Edited November 7, 2017 by MarkS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, UAZipster0305 said: If we win the MACC, I actually think we could get the #4 seed. No way will the committee put 3-4 ACC teams in the top four seeds. I think rooting for any of these teams is very much a wash. They are all ACC and B1G, so they all play each other. One winning, helps the others' RPI indirectly. The one situation where I could see it benefiting the Zips is if both MSU and ND win their conference tournaments. Those two things along with the MACC would give us the four seed. While the RPI considers the entire season's resume, the committee uses wild cards, such as best current teams as consideration for seeding. If it was all done by RPI, there'd be no need for a committee. MSU lost on Sunday to lowly Ohio State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 That's definitely not good for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, MarkS said: Last year 3 of the top 4 were ACC, the other was B1G: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Soccer_Championship And Louisville's #4 was completely out of nowhere...NCSAA#9 and RPI#6. Such things could happen again, but I doubt it. With MSU out of the B1GC, worst case for us would be Michigan beating Indiana in the final. Also, UNC-Clemson in the ACCC would be bad for us. This is the one way I could see us excluded from the #4 if we win the MACC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said: And Louisville's #4 was completely out of nowhere...NCSAA#9 and RPI#6. Such things could happen again, but I doubt it. With MSU out of the B1GC, worst case for us would be Michigan beating Indiana in the final. Also, UNC-Clemson in the ACCC would be bad for us. This is the one way I could see us excluded from the #4 if we win the MACC. I don't know about Stanford's schedule the rest of the way....but I think they will be a top 4 seed if they win out. Indiana will be a top 4 seed if they win the B1G. I do not see Akron being a top 4 seed..the loss to Utah Valley is an absolute killer I hope I am wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, TennZip said: I don't know about Stanford's schedule the rest of the way....but I think they will be a top 4 seed if they win out. Indiana will be a top 4 seed if they win the B1G. I do not see Akron being a top 4 seed..the loss to Utah Valley is an absolute killer I hope I am wrong Yes, the two early season losses hurt. However, it is best that they were early in the season. Without a doubt, we are a top 4 team since then. Among common opponents, Standford lost 2-0 at St. Louis (where we tied 0-0) and tied 1-1 at home to Washington (who we beat 2-0 at our place). Stanford also lost 2-0 at home to Tulsa. If WF and IU both make their conference finals and UA and Stanford win theirs, I think those are your top 4. I think the performances of UNC and Clemson in the ACCC will be a huge factor though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBZipfan Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Pac-12 does not have a conf tournament. Stanford's final game is a regular-season game against Cal on Nov.9. Stanford's schedule is weak, only one game against the RPI top-25 (a win over SMU). That's why their RPI is only #13. So I don't see them as a top-4 seed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, TennZip said: I don't know about Stanford's schedule the rest of the way....but I think they will be a top 4 seed if they win out. Indiana will be a top 4 seed if they win the B1G. I do not see Akron being a top 4 seed..the loss to Utah Valley is an absolute killer I hope I am wrong Hell if NCAA Soccer followed NCAA Football, that UVU match would be completely forgotten. It was the first game of the season. Look how they treat early season blOSU losses in grid iron football. Edited November 8, 2017 by Zip_ME87 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBZipfan Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Root for Wake & Notre Dame on Wednesday ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) On 11/7/2017 at 10:47 PM, MarkS said: Root for Wake & Notre Dame on Wednesday ... Wake beat Clemson 2-1 at home, Notre Dame lost 2-1 to UVA on the road. Other games from last night that impact our RPI are UMass-Lowell beating NH 2-1 at home and Marshall beating Kentucky 1-0 on the road. Cleveland State is still alive in their conference tournament too; they play at Illinois-Chicago tonight. Denver hosts Eastern Illinois tomorrow in the Summit League Tournament. Three of four games favored our RPI. And I don't see UVA stealing a seed from us unless they win the ACCC and we don't win out. ND losing is not ideal, but also not a big deal. Edited November 9, 2017 by UAZipster0305 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzipguy Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Watching big 10 tournament on b10 network. Eight minutes left : Wisc 3 Mich 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, bigzipguy said: Watching big 10 tournament on b10 network. Eight minutes left : Wisc 3 Mich 0 that will help the zips Michigan was 13 and wisconsin was 31 Michigan could have jumped the zips with a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzipguy Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 up next on the b10 network, Ohio state(how ddi they beat Michigan state??) vs Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Jon Bluem and the BloHio State Buckeyes will be watching the NCAA tourney from the sidelines at 70 minutes, Indiana leads BloHio State 4-0 BlowOhio State will end the year with a 8-10-1 mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Congratulations to former zips assistant Dave Giffards His VCU team is having a really nice year they defeated Rhode Island 2-0 in A10 semis yesterday to move up to #13 in RPI they play #21 U Mass in A10 finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 some of the VCU goals were very cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennZip Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 I have to give props to Sandon Milbut, who posted this great info(below) on big Soccer forum Denver lost on PK's to Omaha so that kind of hurt the zips in the RPI yesterday. Root for U Mass Lowell today and root for Wake Forest. Props and kudos to former zip Jesus "Chino" Perez for helping his Illinois -Chicago team advance to the NCAA tourney. Seven teams are already in the NCAA tourney and 17 more will get automatic qualifiers on Sunday. Already in... ATLANTIC SUN - Lipscomb BIG WEST - Cal State Fullerton HORIZON – Illinois-Chicago IVY – Dartmouth PAC 12 - Stanford SUMMIT – Omaha WEST COAST – San Francisco To be decided Sunday... AMERICAN ATHLETIC – Southern Methodist/Central Florida AMERICA EAST – Massachusetts-Lowell/Albany ATLANTIC 10 – Virginia Commonwealth/Massachusetts ATLANTIC COAST – Wake Forest/Virginia BIG EAST – Georgetown/Xavier BIG TEN – Indiana/Wisconsin BIG SOUTH – High Point/Presbyterian COLONIAL ATHLETIC – UNC Wilmington/William & Mary CONFERENCE USA – Old Dominion/Charlotte METRO ATLANTIC ATHLETIC – Rider/Fairfield MID-AMERICAN – Western Michigan/Akron MISSOURI VALLEY – Missouri State/Central Arkansas NORTHEAST – St. Francis Brooklyn/Long Island PATRIOT – Colgate/Holy Cross SOUTHERN – UNC Greensboro/Mercer SUN BELT – Coastal Carolina/Georgia State WESTERN ATHLETIC – Seattle/San Jose State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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