Dr Z Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Click here to see where or if Sports Illustrated ranks Charlie FryeFrye's stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleacher Bum Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I don't think Frye is as bad as he has looked. He is playing behind a broken offensive line and with receivers dropping balls. Someone on that team needs to step up and protect him or his career is gonna go the same way of Tim Couch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-P Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I'm just sick over the Browns. Way back when I expressed sadness when they took Charlie.........and had the feeling it would not be a good thing. It saddens me to admit I was right...........honest.We attended both home preseason games, and I remember sitting there thinking to myself (when the 1's were on the field) "Great! RC's not showing anything until the season starts"................and then the season started and all they had in the can was what they showed in the PS...............gawd.You guys are always griping about support of the Buckeyes..............well, duh, the Buckeyes win football games! That may have SOMETHING to do with it.C'mon RC, fire MC!!!!!!!!Aw shit, I just remembered what I payed to see that crap.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleacher Bum Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Aw shit, I just remembered what I payed to see that crap.................. That's funny because I was at yesterday's game. We made plans to go right after the draft, hoping to catch of glipse of Frye vs. Hixon. But we were sitting up in the stands talking about how the Browns should pay us to sit there and experience watching this miserable team. That or at least give us free beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaroo Craig Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 This poll was done by a bunch of morons. Rodgers, Cutler, Leinart, and Young have not played enough to even warrant a rating and Frye has played a total of 11 games behind what is arguably the worst offensive line in the league. Rothlesberger has shown some success, but I think it is more because he is part of a great team then it is just his raw talent. I'll bet if you asked a bunch of NFL head coaches and GMs this same question you would get a much different response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 This poll was done by a bunch of morons. Rodgers, Cutler, Leinart, and Young have not played enough to even warrant a rating and Frye has played a total of 11 games behind what is arguably the worst offensive line in the league. Rothlesberger has shown some success, but I think it is more because he is part of a great team then it is just his raw talent. I'll bet if you asked a bunch of NFL head coaches and GMs this same question you would get a much different response.That was kind of my reaction (minus the Ben comment).Rodgers???? I hope Green Bay NEVER wins a game with him.Green Bay could have drafted Frye and been set, so could have Miami.Instead Charlie got screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 NFL games are won on big plays. Examples are an INT for a TD, a long kick return for a TD or even a long pass for a TD. A team only gets about four per game. All the other plays are just time consumers until the big play happens or a set up for the big play.The problem Frye is developing is that he does not throw the ball down field consistently well enough to be considered a threat by the other team. I'd love to see a competitors scounting report of him. My guess is it would say the same thing. Not that the Browns have a good offensive line, but please save me the crap about them because when he has had a chance to throw down field, most have been poorly thrown.The best thing Frye has going for him is his ability to throw short passes and run for his life. He is very good at both. No other QB on that team can come close to doing these things. However, these things don't win games and time and injury will reduce his ability to run. Time ticks very fast for guys like Frye. God bless him though, he will make a nice living while he can.On a MAC note, I see that Yunzer Gradkowski is on the list. Knowing Yunzers the way I do, he was probably happy to sign a contract that pays each day a plate of kielbasa, sauerkraut, mashed potatoes and a salad of iceburg with French dressing. As a winning bonus, he probably gets pirogues in lieu of mashed potatoes. 2-0 is a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 That's funny because I was at yesterday's game. We made plans to go right after the draft, hoping to catch of glipse of Frye vs. Hixon. I did the same thing...what a disappointment. The Browns suck and Hixon's hasn't been able to play due to his foot injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-P Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 That big dufuss GP1 dropped "Yunzer" on you guys..............Well.............Signs you're a Yunzer: (stolen for your enjoyment)1. Three of your immediate family members are named Stan2. You can find a direct route from Polish Hill to the South Side, but can't find a bathroom on the South Side3. You remember the glory days of Pitt football 4. You consider all of South Oakland an architectural landmark5. You think ethnic diversity means its ok to accept Protestants6. You slam on the brakes at the sight of a tunnel7. Four of your immediate relatives work for the city or the county8. Polka music makes you horny (this is classically true for Dr. Z)9. You cried when Mario retired (Or when you see a replay of the "Immaculate Reception" which, I might add, is a sacred holiday in my friend's family. They light candles around his dad's autographed Franco Harris photo and watch "The Greatest Steelers Moments" tape while "Ode to Joy" plays in the background.)10. You can taste the difference between batches of Iron City11. You think the Steigerwalds are a dynasty12. You can tell at least two versions of the "Why Danny Marino wasn't drafted by dem Stillers" story13. You think "alternative lifestyles" means those who have money and live in Fox Chapel14. You consider a trip to Monroeville Mall a good Saturday night out.15. You think Mount Washington is really high16. You live on the South Side and wonder what life would be like on the North Side17. You think ethnic cleansing means switching to Irish Spring Soap.18. A special night out includes Eat-N-Park19. You visit Cleveland and notice how clean it is20. You believe that if you are making a left-hand turn, you have the right of way when the light turns green21. You can't eat a sandwich without coleslaw and fries in the middle22. You finish all of your sentences with the word "n'at"23. You take fancy vacations in Seven Springs24. You wear your best Flannel to the Top of the Triangle restaurant25. You think Donnie Iris is the Second Coming26. "Stan, Guy, love the show" means something special to you.27. You live vicariously through WDVE and wonder why Jimmy Krenn was never on Saturday Night Live.28. Myron Cope does not sound like a lunatic on drugs to you.29. You've been to an Isaly's Ice Cream shop.....30. Your cousins who went to West Virginia University are considered the "traitors" of the family.31. Your uncle tells a story about the time all the rivers froze and he and his friends walked from the South Side to the North Side on the ice.32. Your favorite candy at Halloween was a Clark bar.33. You remember "Chiller Theater with Chilly Billy Cardille" and cheer when you see him in Night of the Living Dead.34. You put ketchup on everything.... I mean, everything!35. When you see a Speedy Gonzales cartoon or hear "Ariba!", you think of baseball36. You 'worsh' your clothes37. "Hey Yunz Guyz" is your traditional greeting38. You know the time and location of every Wing Night in a 10 mile radius.39. You know the location of the following towns, know someone from them and have spent time there: Johnstown, Altoona, Bethlehem, Ligonier, Harmony, and Wilmerding.40. You've memorized lines from the movies "flushdance," All The Right Moves, Slap Shot, and Inspector Gadget.41. If you're a guy, your biggest fear is seeing your best friend drive into the "fruit loop". You're second biggest fear is seeing him drive out with Kordel Stewart.42. If you're a girl, you're biggest fear is getting hit on by a hairy-chested man, heavily weighted in gold chains, who refers to his friends as "junior" at Chauncey's.43. Your latest cultural experience: On your way to partying at Slippery Rock University, having to stop your car to let the Amish buggy cross the street.44. As your out-of-town friends brag about their latest trips to Europe, you think to yourself, "Polish Hill will suffice."45. You eat out at least once a week at a mafia-owned Italian pizza parlor.46. Your father has worked for the same company for over 20 years.47. You don't see what all the hype is about Disney World when Kennywood is just around the corner.48. You're having a hard time on where to take your date out for dinner and a night on the town: a. "meat on a stick" in the south side and the guzzling IC Light at Jack'sb. splitting an order of "O fries" and guzzling IC Light at Peter's Pubc. getting fries and coleslaw on a sandwich at Primanti Brothers and guzzling a yard of I C Light at Blue Lou’s49. ‘N ‘at is eloquently added to the end of every sentence.50. You've taken deliberate field trips to the Andy Warhol museum.51. You water ski on Raystown Lake52. You feel the only good bands out there are Donny Iris, Joe Grushecky, The Blue Oyster Cult, and of course.... Rusted Root.53. You're more worried about Jerome Bettis's health than your own.54. You own more than one original Terrible Towel.55. Your most bitter regret is that Dan Marino plays for the Dolphins...56. You don't understand what all the hype is about for Rolling Rock beer, you've been drinking it for years57. You consider a great vacation a trip to Conneaut Lake or Lake Erie.58. ...For something a little more exotic, a trip to Jersey Shore (Pennsylvania, that is).59. You're 35 years old, have never been outside of Allegheny County, and don't see the need to leave.60. You only own four spices: salt, pepper, Heinz ketchup, and the bottle of Trappey's Red Devil you swiped from Primanti's.61. You design your Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit.62. For the life of you, you can't understand why your all your out-of-town friends don't get the "fries and cole slaw" thing63. You have 101 favorite recipes for keilbasa and saurkraut.64. Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow.65. You find 20F "a little" chilly.66. You know the four seasons: Winter, Still Winter, Almost Winter, and Construction.67. You remember fondly time off from school known as "Snow Days".68. Words like: hoagie; chipped ham; pop; and gumband actually mean something to you.69. You can use the phrase "Firehall Wedding" and not even bat an eye.70. The Monday after Thanksgiving is a National Holiday to you (First Day of Buck Season)__________________Like the wise man said: Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I agree the line sucks, but I also think a lot of posters here feel Frye is better than he is.I think he is an average QB. Nothing more, nothing less. His arm is limited, and he can't throw a good deep ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fear the brown roo Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 z-p, that is classic. it's like you know my whole family in mckeesport, pa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-P Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 No credit here, it's ripped off, but my best bud's a Yunzer, and this is soooooo true.Years ago I had a tee shirt which was classic "Pittsburgese".............classic words all over it.............I wore that sucker out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Now that Carthon is gone, Frye really needs to step it up or the finger will be pointed at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Z-P, I love those. I can never read enough of those. #26 now needs some minor editing (real Yunzers know what I mean) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Now that Carthon is gone, Frye really needs to step it up or the finger will be pointed at him. I dunno. They are replacing Carthon with the O-Line coach. After seeing th O-line so far, Charlie might actually be in a worse position than he was yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Organization fails Frye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Until this team gets an o-line, they will continue to fail. Why have we been saying that for 8 years now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-P Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Thanks for the post Doc, I would have missed that.It reminds me of something I've been meaning to dump on you guys.Ya know, two significant changes in my "outlook" on Pro FB have taken place in the past few years, being a little closer to the "game" and the "business" than I was (for obvious reasons).#1. I'm getting to where I can't stand, and even "hate" some (scratch that and make it MOST) of these talking heads and writers. Where the hell do some of these guys get off hammering players, coaches and officials. 90% of them never played the game, don't know what they are talking about, and will SAY ANYTHING to create publicity for themselves. It's getting really, really sick out there. It reminds me of these sickening political attack ads running. You listen to what is said and it nausiates you. But then again, maybe it's just me. I might be getting old and cranky.#2. I'm 100% pro-player, anti-owner. Players are just cattle for these guys. They chew them up and spit them out. It sucks. I'm talking Pro FB. The opposite is true in baseball. I feel sorry for most of these guys. They postpone their "real lives" to try and make the big time.................95% never get there, and just create difficulty they must deal with the rest of their lives. Of the ones that do, most of them only last a couple years, destroying their bodies in the process and giving themselves the false impression that "they are really somebody important"................and when the game ends for them, what then?Maybe this is really fodder for it's own thread, but it just happened to fall out of my head at this moment.ILFSITF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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