CSU get Ohip State at the Q???

[K-Roo]

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[ZachTheZip]

It doesn't suprise me. OSU tries to play other state schools to "help them out". Of course it is always in Colombus unless they don't consider the school a threat, then it is on a neutral (as neutral as you can be in Ohio) court. There will be more OSU fans than Viking fans there, even though it is pretty much a home game for CSU. If we were ever to play OSU, it would be in Colombus, because they are scared to play us at home or on a neutral court, just like all of the "big" schools.

[Zip Watcher]

To me, this game presents an absolute no risk scenario for the Sucks. Now if they go up there in 3 years when Waters has the CSU thing turned around .. different story. But for now, they'll go there well before they go to the JAR.

[sgm405]

It doesn't suprise me. OSU tries to play other state schools to "help them out". Of course it is always in Colombus unless they don't consider the school a threat, then it is on a neutral (as neutral as you can be in Ohio) court. There will be more OSU fans than Viking fans there, even though it is pretty much a home game for CSU. If we were ever to play OSU, it would be in Colombus, because they are scared to play us at home or on a neutral court, just like all of the "big" schools.

If you're OSU, why would you come to Akron to play? Honestly...everyone take off the OSU-hating blinders and think logically for a second. They would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming to the JAR. It wouldn't help their strength of schedule one bit. And trust me...I love our team, but I'm pretty sure OSU isn't "afraid" of playing Akron.

[zen]

It doesn't suprise me.  OSU tries to play other state schools to "help them out".  Of course it is always in Colombus unless they don't consider the school a threat, then it is on a neutral (as neutral as you can be in Ohio) court.  There will be more OSU fans than Viking fans there, even though it is pretty much a home game for CSU.  If we were ever to play OSU, it would be in Colombus, because they are scared to play us at home or on a neutral court, just like all of the "big" schools.

If you're OSU, why would you come to Akron to play? Honestly...everyone take off the OSU-hating blinders and think logically for a second. They would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming to the JAR. It wouldn't help their strength of schedule one bit. And trust me...I love our team, but I'm pretty sure OSU isn't "afraid" of playing Akron.

You contradict yourself.If they have nothing to gain and everything to lose, then obviously, they are afraid.

[sgm405]

It doesn't suprise me.  OSU tries to play other state schools to "help them out".  Of course it is always in Colombus unless they don't consider the school a threat, then it is on a neutral (as neutral as you can be in Ohio) court.  There will be more OSU fans than Viking fans there, even though it is pretty much a home game for CSU.  If we were ever to play OSU, it would be in Colombus, because they are scared to play us at home or on a neutral court, just like all of the "big" schools.

If you're OSU, why would you come to Akron to play? Honestly...everyone take off the OSU-hating blinders and think logically for a second. They would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming to the JAR. It wouldn't help their strength of schedule one bit. And trust me...I love our team, but I'm pretty sure OSU isn't "afraid" of playing Akron.

You contradict yourself.If they have nothing to gain and everything to lose, then obviously, they are afraid.

Afraid or smart?

[BirdZip]

Afraid.

[sgm405]

Afraid.

Well if you guys want to think that way, that's cool. Smart scheduling = fear I guess. Again - why would OSU come here? It doesn't work that way folks. Akron's got to win something before that happens, to make it worth it for big time programs to come in. But hey, if you guys want to think that the #1 ranked, Final Four-bound Ohio State team that scheduled non-conference road games against UNC and Florida this year is afraid of the Akron Zips...hey, that's your right.

[InTheZone]

Afraid.

Well if you guys want to think that way, that's cool. Smart scheduling = fear I guess. Again - why would OSU come here? It doesn't work that way folks. Akron's got to win something before that happens, to make it worth it for big time programs to come in. But hey, if you guys want to think that the #1 ranked, Final Four-bound Ohio State team that scheduled non-conference road games against UNC and Florida this year is afraid of the Akron Zips...hey, that's your right.

And the team that should've lost to Xavier, who was on par with the Zips this year. OSU was forced to play Xavier on a neutral court, and you saw the results. Yes, OSU is AFRAID to play any decent Ohio team away from home, and for good reason. A loss could begin to chip away at their sports monopoly on the state, God-forbid, and would severely hinder the ignorantly overconfident invinibility mindset of most Suckeye fan morons.

[sgm405]

Afraid.

Well if you guys want to think that way, that's cool. Smart scheduling = fear I guess. Again - why would OSU come here? It doesn't work that way folks. Akron's got to win something before that happens, to make it worth it for big time programs to come in. But hey, if you guys want to think that the #1 ranked, Final Four-bound Ohio State team that scheduled non-conference road games against UNC and Florida this year is afraid of the Akron Zips...hey, that's your right.

And the team that should've lost to Xavier, who was on par with the Zips this year. OSU was forced to play Xavier on a neutral court, and you saw the results. Yes, OSU is AFRAID to play any decent Ohio team away from home, and for good reason. A loss could begin to chip away at their sports monopoly on the state, God-forbid, and would severely hinder the ignorantly overconfident invinibility mindset of most Suckeye fan morons.

So now we're counting "should've losses"? Who won the game? That's really all that matters.Again...OSU won't play at Akron because of a very simple reason - THEY GAIN NOTHING. Why schedule a game that does nothing for your team? As for Akron beating OSU, hey - I'd love to see it happen. I'm not sure who'd guard Greg Oden or Mike Conley Jr., but that's a different story. But do you honestly think one win over OSU would chip away at their "sports monopoly"? If Akron is to ever be anywhere near the same level as OSU bball, they'll have to:1) Win consistently2) Win their conference numerous times3) Actually make it to the NCAA tournament 4) Once there, make at least a nice run...and not just once. Hey, I hope it happens...I really do. But anyone who honestly think that OSU is afraid of not being able to beat Akron, or that Akron is anywhere close right now to the level of their program is just letting their OSU-hating blinders get in the way of reasonable thinking.

[Blue & Gold]

When Huggins was at Cincy the Sucks categorically refused to ever play Cincy. However, now that Huggie Bear is gone, and Cincy's really struggling right now, well, what do ya know, the Sucks will be glad to play 'em. Screw OSU.

[Valpo Zip]

I don't want to see OSU play us in the JAR. I don't want to even play them at the Q. What for ? If we have them at the JAR, more than half the crowd will be theirs in a game that is supposedly a home game for us, NO THANKS.One last thing, SGM, unfortunately, and due to the way the committee looks at us, i totally agree with you when you say that OSU has nothing to win and everything to loose playing us. But then you come back and imply that there is no way OSU will ever loose to us... so what exactly do they have to loose ? how did you manage to combine both these statements in one post ?

[MightyZip6]

I may be wrong on this one but let me know. Didn't CSU play at Value City Arena this year so wouldn't it almost be like a Home and Home game with CSU except obvisously CSU Convo is too small to fill an O-State Crowd??

[jeaglet1]

I think CSU played at Value City as part of the same exempt tourny that Can't St. played in.

[Zips fan]

When Huggins was at Cincy the Sucks categorically refused to ever play Cincy. However, now that Huggie Bear is gone, and Cincy's really struggling right now, well, what do ya know, the Sucks will be glad to play 'em. Screw OSU.

I remember when Huggins was there OSU wanted no part of the Bearcats. The Suckeyes played Toledo at Toledo several years back. The Rockets won and the suckeyes have not played a MAC since. Who cares about some schools a couple of hours away anyways? Well, beside smg.

[InTheZone]

Apparently sgm wishes he had gone to Ohio St.

[ziptrumpet87]

if OSU has "nothing to gain" by playing us at the JAR, surely that means they have even less to gain by playing CSU, even if it is at the "Q".

[GoZips88]

CSU at The Q is a relatively safe "away" game for OSU and offers a WHOLE lot more $$$ than what we could guarantee if they did play at the JAR. If I were in OSU's shoes, I would NEVER play in a facility as small as the JAR - WAY too many butts, WAY, WAY too few seats = WAY to much lost opportunity ($$$$$$$$$$$$$).

[mcperp]

Should we play at Tiffin next year?

[sgm405]

I don't want to see OSU play us in the JAR. I don't want to even play them at the Q. What for ? If we have them at the JAR, more than half the crowd will be theirs in a game that is supposedly a home game for us, NO THANKS.One last thing, SGM, unfortunately, and due to the way the committee looks at us, i totally agree with you when you say that OSU has nothing to win and everything to loose playing us. But then you come back and imply that there is no way OSU will ever loose to us... so what exactly do they have to loose ? how did you manage to combine both these statements in one post ?

I just think OSU coming to the JAR gets them nothing. With - as you said - the way the committee perceives Akron right now, a win over the Zips for the Buckeyes would mean very little for their program. If Akron played a near-perfect game (and they'd need to to defeat this Buckeye team) and somehow defeated OSU, it would be a killer loss. So if you're the OSU AD, why do it? OSU haters will call it fear....I call it intelligence.

[sgm405]

"Who cares about some schools a couple of hours away anyways? Well, beside smg."Apparently a lot of people...I mean, that's why you all hate OSU, right? Because they get more attention in Akron than Akron gets in Akron...???"Apparently sgm wishes he had gone to Ohio St."And why is that? Because I think the #1 team in the nation that's currently in the Final Four would defeat Akron? Or because I am smart enough to see that OSU coming to the JAR would do nothing for their program? What exactly does that have to do with my allegiance to the Akron?

[GoZips]

Let's shed some light on a few items.CSU has OSU at home as part of a multi-year package that sends CSU to Columbus forthree ass kickings.OSU will easily have far more fans at the Q than will CSU. Home game atmosphere forthe Columbus bunch.Why OSU wont play Akron? Actually, they would for the same three for one deal and ourgame at the Q. Now is that a good deal? Sure. What you smoking?Akron may have only pulled a 67 RPI, but its a hell of a lot higher than the usual cupcakes (see CSU) the Buckies usually bring into their arena.As for losing to the Zips. Excellent chance the Sucks would suffer the same fate in thelowly JAR that they got at Savage Hall. MAC schools are incredibly difficult to defeatin their house.The Sucks would have about one third the fan total in the JAR. About the same asCant brings. Only, half that amount would not be rabid fans.Playing and, ahem, losing to the likes of Florida and North Carolina on the road wouldnever bring the crash in the Staties lofty RPI that losing to the Zips would inflict.SGM, here's a tip. If you like the Sucks so much, go be their fan. This is the ZipsNation. There are plenty of sewers you can find loyal Suck fans in. After all, youalmost never meet a Suck fan who has ever been to school there or sent theirdumb assed kid there. Its all versheechzen.

[mcperp]

Folks, be reasonable. This is a Zips fan site, sgm has posted over 600 times on this site because he too is a Zips fan. To accuse him of not being a fan of Akron is truly unfair, and sounds like McCarthyism at its worst. The point sgm makes (IMO) is that OSU has no compelling reason to play at Akron for the moment anyways. Like it or not, and as rabid Zips fans we don't, OSU is the director, and Akron, BG, OU, etc take directions in the college sports world. Let's face it, if Youngstown State wanted us to play there, JD would make sure that they play in Akron 2, and probably 3 times. When there are competing viewpoints to an issue, sometimes its wise to look to Occam's razor as a guide to separate logic and zealotry.

[sgm405]

If you like the Sucks so much, go be their fan. This is the ZipsNation. There are plenty of sewers you can find loyal Suck fans in. After all, youalmost never meet a Suck fan who has ever been to school there or sent theirdumb assed kid there. Its all versheechzen.

Again...my statement was this:I think the #1 team in the nation that's currently in the Final Four would defeat Akron handily.And why shouldn't I? They are clearly the better team and would present a ton of matchup problems for Akron. I also think that OSU coming to the JAR would do nothing for their program. They wouldn't make much money and wouldn't help their strength of schedule...and if they did lose in the huge upset it could hurt them big time. So an OSU-Akron matchup at the JAR brings ZERO positives for OSU with a chance of major negatives...why exactly would they choose to do that? I would've said the same thing for Florida, North Carolina, Georgetown, UCLA, etc etc etc as well. They would have no reason to come to the JAR at this point and time. Those were my two statements. Anyone who knows college basketball and looked at things in a non-biased manner would agree with both of those statements. So answer me this...What exactly does that have to do with my allegiance to Akron? Did I say I liked OSU more? Did I say I wished OSU would beat Akron? No and no...I simply pointed out realistic observations that people that hate OSU refuse - for whatever reason - to believe. Please, enlighten me...and maybe use actual points and arguments instead of sophomoric insults and generalizations.

[sgm405]

Folks, be reasonable. This is a Zips fan site, sgm has posted over 600 times on this site because he too is a Zips fan. To accuse him of not being a fan of Akron is truly unfair, and sounds like McCarthyism at its worst. The point sgm makes (IMO) is that OSU has no compelling reason to play at Akron for the moment anyways. Like it or not, and as rabid Zips fans we don't, OSU is the director, and Akron, BG, OU, etc take directions in the college sports world. Let's face it, if Youngstown State wanted us to play there, JD would make sure that they play in Akron 2, and probably 3 times. When there are competing viewpoints to an issue, sometimes its wise to look to Occam's razor as a guide to separate logic and zealotry.

Oh dear God please rack this post. Thank you mcperp...I'm glad someone finally gets it.