TXZipFan Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Sorry Rasor but you must have been misinformed. I heard from a very reliable source on the team that Chris has earned the starting job. I think after how well Rodgers played in camp, we should move CJ to WR because we don't have enough talent to have him sitting on the bench. Another thing Ive always felt like CJ would've made a better WR and so did the other schools that offered him, seeing as Akron was the only team to offer him as a QB. I look at this as a positive so we can get both kids on the field. Now we have another kid to replace the hole left by Harvey, Lindsey, and the no show from Vince Hill.GO ZIPS!!!Can't Wait for Cleveland!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't see CJ moving to WR. It does make since but he is just one play away from being the starter. (Just ask Frye). I really don't see if that happens JD starting a true freshman in the shoe on the 8th. Maybe put CJ on the field to run a few plays from WR and a trick play or two but nothing permant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Wow. If this is true, I am a little surprised. Although, I do agree that it's the best thing for the team since Jackson can help us out at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 We only have 3 scholarship QB's. I can't see JD leaving us with 2.This would be very risky. We have plenty of WR. we just don't know what we have talent wise. Just because CJ is a good athlete doesn't mean he would be any better than the other WR's we have.Besides, with our o-line history, I am sure he will get plenty of snaps too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I'm surprised as well. Hopefully CJ doesn't decide to transfer over this. That's the last thing we need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziptrumpet87 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Maybe put CJ on the field to run a few plays from WR and a trick play or two but nothing permant.I like that idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRasor0200 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Wow. My apologies on this one. If you heard what I did from two sources, you'd think it's pretty obvious, too.I like what they're doing though, with playing CJ in the second quarter. They need to get both of them a chance on the field. I always thought CJ's true talent level would be more evident once we could see how elusive he is while scrambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Here is an article from GoZips.comAKRON – Over the last two weeks, the University of Akron football team has devoted its practices learning the playbook, working on fundamentals, getting young and/or inexperienced player repetitions and developing a depth chart. Thursday morning’s three-hour session at Schrank Field saw the latter starting to take shape. Key among those positions in question was at quarterback. After “making a very tough decision” according to head coach J.D. Brookhart, sophomore Chris Jacquemain led the first team offense throughout practice with fellow sophomore Carlton Jackson running the second unit. “It is a great problem to have,” Brookhart said when referring to the tough decision. “Chris and Carlton have both improved greatly from the spring and are way ahead of where we expected them to be at this point. Our decision came down to who we thought would manage the game best. “We are planning to still play Carlton in the second quarter of games, but Chris will not be on a short leash. Carlton has earned the right to play and we need him to have as much game experience as possible because you never know what can happen.” Akron will have a light practice session Friday before implementing game plans on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball for the 2007 season opener versus Army in the inaugural FirstMerit Patriot Bowl. Kickoff for the Zips-Black Knights game is set for 7 pm at Cleveland Browns Stadium. Tickets for the FirstMerit Patriot Bowl are available by calling the Zips Ticket Office at 1-888-99-AKRON (888-992-5766). Prior to the game, from 1-6 pm, there be will tailgate party at Mall C (two blocks from Cleveland Browns Stadium). Admission and entertainment are free. Appearances will be made by Zippy, Akron cheerleaders, Akron band and Army core of cadets. There will also be live music, inflatables and Army displays. Food and beverages will be available to purchase as well. Also at Mall C, there will be a VIP Tailgate from 4-6 pm. The buffet meal will cost $25 for adults and $10 for youth 4-12. Fans must purchase tickets to the VIP Tailgate in advance by calling the UA Ticket Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 “It is a great problem to have,” Brookhart said when referring to the tough decision. “Chris and Carlton have both improved greatly from the spring and are way ahead of where we expected them to be at this point. Our decision came down to who we thought would manage the game best. I love this quote the most. Improvement is what you get when you have open competition and guys just aren't given the job. I also like that JD has left the door open the first couple games until the MAC schedule starts. This will continue to make the players better.I like what I have been hearing. Competition and discipline are a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Wow. My apologies on this one. If you heard what I did from two sources, you'd think it's pretty obvious, too. A well-researched "scoop" blows up in someone's face. Glad that's never happened to me! Great job on covering the practices throughout August, Mike. Outstanding information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRasor0200 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Hah. No problem.At least this message always will ring true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Anyone else have fla.shbacks to:Butchie leading us to a 14-10 1st quarter score at Penn State, then Owens puts Gromek in, and...21-10...28-10...35-10...in the blink of an eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yeah, Gromek had a hell of an arm, but he was color blind. Then he couldn't move after he blew his knee out. I see your point though and I agree. If we are winning big or getting killed make the change against Army or OSU. If it is close....for heavens sake don't switch qb's during the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Competition can indeed make players better. But it can also leave your eventual starters less prepared for the start of a season.I know a lot of coaches, and they say it can go either way. Lets hope the strategy pays off for Akron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Coaching 101-If things are working, you don't change them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyboy Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I am not very pleased with the choice. I just think that Jackson has more of an upside then Jaq does. But if CJ gets a chance to play against army... he will prove himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziptrumpet87 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 8-24-07 News-Herald story about Jacquemain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I am not very pleased with the choice. I just think that Jackson has more of an upside then Jaq does. But if CJ gets a chance to play against army... he will prove himself. My opinion, based on a grand total of one scrimmage watched:Jacquemain and Jackson are both better-than-average passers. Jackson is more elusive. However, he defaults to running too soon. Jacquemain gives his receivers a chance to finish their routes.I think that slight edge in overall pocket poise outweighs the couple plays where Jackson's footwork might come into play.If the offense sputters under Jacquemain and needs a spark, that's when Jackson will probably get a chance. BTW -- I hate the term "He can manage the game." Give me a guy that can put the ball in the endzone and move the chains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I am not very pleased with the choice. I just think that Jackson has more of an upside then Jaq does. But if CJ gets a chance to play against army... he will prove himself.My opinion, based on a grand total of one scrimmage watched:Jacquemain and Jackson are both better-than-average passers. Jackson is more elusive. However, he defaults to running too soon. Jacquemain gives his receivers a chance to finish their routes.I think that slight edge in overall pocket poise outweighs the couple plays where Jackson's footwork might come into play.If the offense sputters under Jacquemain and needs a spark, that's when Jackson will probably get a chance. BTW -- I hate the term "He can manage the game." Give me a guy that can put the ball in the endzone and move the chains. CJ is a Soph. that is all part of the learning process. Again, like I said on another thread. Don't shoot me for talking about another school. CJ reminds me a lot of Troy Smith.Troy was a pretty bad passer that liked to take off before going through his reads and progressions. After he got some experience, he became the Heisman winner.I see the same thing in CJ. He just needs playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovezips Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 best thing for the team. I got to watch about 4 days and on every day Jacquemain has looked better. go zips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZipsCrazy Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Buckzip- Troy Smith was an Elite 11 QB coming out of h.s. so to say he was a bad passer is an understatement. He also had offers to play QB at many other schools. So to compare a kid who had one Div. 1 offer to play QB to an Elite 11 QB turned Heisman trophy winner is a pretty far stretch. CJ has never once showed me that he can play QB at this level, based on the two Spring Games (this years and last years) I saw and his limited playing time last year. He didn't score in either of those Spring Games and IMO he just looks like a real good athlete trying to play QB. I would really like to see what he can do in the slot, maybe some trick plays, if I were going to compare him to any player I would say an Antwan Randle El and I would like to see him used in the same way. It's not like if Jaquemain goes down he can't move back to QB this season, Paul Thompson of Oklahoma and Syvell Newton of South Carolina both did it... why not Carlton Jackson of Akron???We need to realize (although I hate the term) we are a "Mid-Major" school and we don't have the depth of talent that BCS schools have and we need to find a way to get as many talented players on the field as possible. If Michigan State felt he had enough talent to play WR for them why can't he do it for us too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Buckzip- Troy Smith was an Elite 11 QB coming out of h.s. so to say he was a bad passer is an understatement. He also had offers to play QB at many other schools. So to compare a kid who had one Div. 1 offer to play QB to an Elite 11 QB turned Heisman trophy winner is a pretty far stretch. CJ has never once showed me that he can play QB at this level, based on the two Spring Games (this years and last years) I saw and his limited playing time last year. He didn't score in either of those Spring Games and IMO he just looks like a real good athlete trying to play QB. I would really like to see what he can do in the slot, maybe some trick plays, if I were going to compare him to any player I would say an Antwan Randle El and I would like to see him used in the same way. It's not like if Jaquemain goes down he can't move back to QB this season, Paul Thompson of Oklahoma and Syvell Newton of South Carolina both did it... why not Carlton Jackson of Akron???We need to realize (although I hate the term) we are a "Mid-Major" school and we don't have the depth of talent that BCS schools have and we need to find a way to get as many talented players on the field as possible. If Michigan State felt he had enough talent to play WR for them why can't he do it for us too? Zipscrazy, you are correct that he was an elite 11 QB.However, it wasn't because of his passing. It was because of his legs.He was classified as a "dual threat" QB.His high school completion was well below 50%.I am in no way saying that CJ will be as good as TS. I was only mentioning that at this point, entering his sophomore year, he too hadn't developed the passing part of his game. He trusted his legs much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozips19 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I said before that I'd be surprised if CJ didn't win the job and now I am....... JAC truly out played CJ to win the job. IMHO with J.D. playing CJ in the 2nd for at least the first game shows that he believes in him and I still think he wants him to win that spot as he brings more to the table athletically. Another option is to simple let CJ run out the string at QB so he doesn't get pissed and transfer. After he cools down you look at changing pos? I am not sure still what this means yet but I am comfortable with JAC as the starter as he kind of reminds me of a smaller Dan Lafavor sp?....good tools, quick but not fast, makes good decisions, strong arm but not an overpowering arm. Can't wait to see how it all plays out in one week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Changing positions this year is suicidal. Both kids will play and hopefully one emerges. I don't see why anyone would transfer because he would have to sit out. Both will play this year and who knows who will be the guy come Novemeber. I just want to see some wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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