zippy42 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Insider info is telling me that the following players have transferred out of Akron:Rodney Etienne Backup CBMichael Alphonse Backup LBCJ7 Backup QBI would not be shocked if more were to come..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 The only one I have heard of is CJ7. If it's true (which is actually very likely), that's a shame because I feel that he could have contributed a lot more as a defensive player if we could have had him make the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 jd needs to go out and find a jc qb.we only have cj11 back now with any game experience.without seeing rogers the qb situation next year does not look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Rodgers is a mystery, but the word is that he is far better than CJ11 or CJ7. Plus having Andrew Johnson become eligible to be our RB, it should help. If Harvey and/or Lindsey returns, Rodgers has an instant go-to target. At any rate, it can't get any worse than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Insider info is telling me that the following players have transferred out of Akron:Rodney Etienne Backup CBMichael Alphonse Backup LBCJ7 Backup QBI would not be shocked if more were to come.....Etienne is a bit of a surprise. He is young and ready to get playing time with 3 DB starters graduating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Insider info is telling me that the following players have transferred out of Akron:Rodney Etienne Backup CBMichael Alphonse Backup LBCJ7 Backup QBI would not be shocked if more were to come.....Etienne is a bit of a surprise. He is young and ready to get playing time with 3 DB starters graduating. unfortunately when kids start jumping ship in this kind of situation it is a real bad sign...they know what is going on inside the prgram...if kids REALLY wanted to play for Brookhart they would stay...they don't want to play for this coach...next year is Brookhart's(er JD's) last year at Akron... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 if harvey ,and lindsey come back that would give us two guys to throw to along with our te.both thise guys can bust a long one any time.my only qestion is if rogers is so much better then why did he not start last.i hope he is the real deal becuase no way with cj11 does this team do much.i will admit thought if we had both of those guys this year we may not have been nearly as bad.i think the season on offense comes down to three guys lidnsey,harvey,and rogers.you are not going to find high school players like those two guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Kids leave programs all the time for a variety of reasons. But Rodney surprises me too, especially when he was going to start having opportunities to play. Lets hope his departure was for other reasons other than a loss of faith in the direction of the program. Because, in some cases, that can become contagious. I was just talking about CJ7 among some other fellow long-time alums/fans just last night. Someone made the point that if both QBs were struggling throwing the ball, but one was a great runner, and the other was not, than why didn't we play the "runner" more often? I guess that's a valid point. Well, now he's gone, and we're left with the guy that can't throw well, or make plays with his feet. And since Hakes left in the aftermath of a two-man QB battle last fall, we're now back to square one. Lets hope JD didn't botch this whole QB situation, but I have a bad feeling. I simply did not want to go into a second straight season with uncertaintly at this position, but it appears that's exactly where we are headed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Insider info is telling me that the following players have transferred out of Akron:Rodney Etienne Backup CBMichael Alphonse Backup LBCJ7 Backup QBI would not be shocked if more were to come.....I will put the best spin I can on this news: As I recall, this is an improvement over a year ago, when we lost a couple more than this, and just one of these (Alphonse) is a potential starter -- though Jackson may have threatened at another position (RB in my opinion would be the best for him). Virtually every college football team loses players each year. It is good news if these players left voluntarily, rather than being told by academic authorities they were not welcome. Second, there are other players who are now looking around for greener pastures, and hopefully some will come and look at the fences going up on the beautiful Infocision Stadium complex. Wouldn't it be great to get a Big-Ten level quarterback transfer over here?I am confident the team is on the verge of turning things around. On the other hand, my fingers are crossed, so my cup is not running over with confidence. And like Lee Owens' brother, Lee Adams, I must say that another losing season must bring a coaching change. The worst case is that the powers that be will accept losing, an attitude we were supposed to have overcome already.Best wishes to the Zips for a championship renaissance in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 i just did not understand the qb thing this year.if rogers was good as the two other guys jd should have not redshirted him.since we are not going after any other qb i would assume that rogers is the man this year.its scary to go into the season with a qb that has not played a down.now that cj7 is gone cj11 is the backup,and i wonder if rogers starts will he transfer out.if lindsey and harvey come back then i will fell alott better about this team.if they dont then there are going to be alott of questions next year.the only good thing is there is no mac powerhouse team anymore.when your best team gets beat by 1-aa team,and gives up 70 to clemson there is hope for everybody in the leauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I thought Rodgers had surgery during the season which would have negated any chance of playing last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Rodgers was injured before the season started, causing it to become a two QB race between the CJs. By the time our QBs started to look as bad as they really were, the decision to redshirt Rodgers was probably already made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Insider info is telling me that the following players have transferred out of Akron:Rodney Etienne Backup CBMichael Alphonse Backup LBCJ7 Backup QBI would not be shocked if more were to come.....I will put the best spin I can on this news: As I recall, this is an improvement over a year ago, when we lost a couple more than this, and just one of these (Alphonse) is a potential starter -- though Jackson may have threatened at another position (RB in my opinion would be the best for him). Virtually every college football team loses players each year. It is good news if these players left voluntarily, rather than being told by academic authorities they were not welcome. Second, there are other players who are now looking around for greener pastures, and hopefully some will come and look at the fences going up on the beautiful Infocision Stadium complex. Wouldn't it be great to get a Big-Ten level quarterback transfer over here?I am confident the team is on the verge of turning things around. On the other hand, my fingers are crossed, so my cup is not running over with confidence. And like Lee Owens' brother, Lee Adams, I must say that another losing season must bring a coaching change. The worst case is that the powers that be will accept losing, an attitude we were supposed to have overcome already.Best wishes to the Zips for a championship renaissance in 2008. Mr. Owens might be insulted...but heck its a compliment to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Come on my fellow Zips fans, we can't expect the Beacon to cover our Zips if we the diehards don't even know what's going on. Etienne quit in the middle of the season. From what I heard at the time, like a lot of those great quality recruits JD went down and got out of Florida, he quit because he didn't like getting yelled at. CJ7 thought he was better and more important than he was, and he's another cancer cell that this team will be better without. You know many on this board talked about we should just wait and see how great Akron was going to be once he weeded out Lee Owen's recruits. Well.... as it turns out, the only success JD's ever had has been with LO's recruits, and now he's stuck with a problem of having to weed out his own recruits: all the cancer cells he brought in '05 and '06. The fact of the matter is JD walked into a great situation at Akron with a lot of talented players and brand new facilities and he has dug his own grave trying to take shortcuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 i think the defense should be ok next year.hopefully we can find a few db to replace corner,pace.ect.i think the offense just depends on alott of factors that we wont know until the season starts.i would think by this time i would be really hard to find a jc qb,or a high school qb who could come in and play right away.i just dont understand how jd did not see we needed to recruit a qb.looks like are hopes are on rogers now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 You know many on this board talked about we should just wait and see how great Akron was going to be once he weeded out Lee Owen's recruits. Well.... as it turns out, the only success JD's ever had has been with LO's recruits, and now he's stuck with a problem of having to weed out his own recruits: all the cancer cells he brought in '05 and '06. The fact of the matter is JD walked into a great situation at Akron with a lot of talented players and brand new facilities and he has dug his own grave trying to take shortcuts.I'll get to the lack of self awareness in a second.....The MAC Championship was won by Biggs and Getsy.....the end. The last time I checked, they were JD's recruits. Now off to self awareness.....One of the interesting things I notice when I see former players from the Owens era post, like ITZ, is the complete lack of self awareness. I know a lot of guys from the Faust era. To a man, they know they were bad teams with bad players. They have absolutely no illusions things were anything more than what they were. As bad as they were during the Faust era, I'd stack the talent level on some of those teams any day against the best team of the Owens era. In fact, the highest winning percentage in the D-1A era was by a Faust team (1992)......all without a new fieldhouse. The interesting thing about the Owens players is that they were bad players, and they don't know they were bad. They have sort of this over inflated opinion of themselves that so many young people have today. There have actually been recent articles in the Wall Street Journal about this attitude and how to handle it. Perhaps they were kept in diapers too long as children. Maybe in time they will grow up. JD didn't walk into an ideal situation, he walked into a barn knee deep in steaming crap.The talent level on the current team is very good. As a group, probably better than in a long time. Certainly better than any year of the Owens era. A decent QB and last year's team wins 7-8 games. Two additional games get won with a decent QB...Miami, CMU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 GP1...excellent point about JD bringing in Biggs and Getsy. That was a tremendous boost to that offense. An offense that really needed some instant impact players with Charlie graduating.In addition, the last group of players LO recruited would have been in their junior and senior seasons the last couple of years, and we won a combined 9 games in those two years. So, please put this notion to rest that JD won because he had LOs players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-a-zip Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 GP1,Get a clue and your unsubstantiated facts straight before you make idiotic comments. I enjoy reading this site, but keep my opinions to myself. But I can not just let this post slide. This is one of the most idiotic, clueless comments I think anyone has ever made on this site. I, myself, can't comment on the players in JD's program right now because I am not around the situation on a daily basis. I can evaluate from TV or the stands. That's easy. So I am not going to say his players or Lee Owens players are better BECAUSE I am not there day in and day out. Sure some of the teams were bad (most of them) during the Lee Owens era. But don't make idiotic unintelligent comments. Stop and take a look at some players that have come out of the Lee Owens era:Dwight Smith, Chase Blackburn, Charlie Frye, Jake Schifino, Domenik Hixon, Lou Mackey, Ryan Myers (All guys who have had success in the NFL)Other guys who have played or went to camp with NFL Teams :Matt Cherry, Mike Brake, Jon Eaton, John Fuller, Konrad Dean, Jeff Grzeskowiak, Zac Derr, Willie Spencer (Transferred)I am sure I am missing some. But you GP1 being the football genius that you are, are right. There was no talent there. And Faust 1992 team with the best record was against a mixture of 1AA opponents. So check your own self-awareness. Just out of curiousity have you ever stepped foot on a football field for a D1 program? Didn't think so. So quit making idiotic statements because you got hurt in pee-wee football and never regained your spot back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 You know many on this board talked about we should just wait and see how great Akron was going to be once he weeded out Lee Owen's recruits. Well.... as it turns out, the only success JD's ever had has been with LO's recruits, and now he's stuck with a problem of having to weed out his own recruits: all the cancer cells he brought in '05 and '06. The fact of the matter is JD walked into a great situation at Akron with a lot of talented players and brand new facilities and he has dug his own grave trying to take shortcuts.I'll get to the lack of self awareness in a second.....The MAC Championship was won by Biggs and Getsy.....the end. The last time I checked, they were JD's recruits. Now off to self awareness.....One of the interesting things I notice when I see former players from the Owens era post, like ITZ, is the complete lack of self awareness. I know a lot of guys from the Faust era. To a man, they know they were bad teams with bad players. They have absolutely no illusions things were anything more than what they were. As bad as they were during the Faust era, I'd stack the talent level on some of those teams any day against the best team of the Owens era. In fact, the highest winning percentage in the D-1A era was by a Faust team (1992)......all without a new fieldhouse. The interesting thing about the Owens players is that they were bad players, and they don't know they were bad. They have sort of this over inflated opinion of themselves that so many young people have today. There have actually been recent articles in the Wall Street Journal about this attitude and how to handle it. Perhaps they were kept in diapers too long as children. Maybe in time they will grow up. JD didn't walk into an ideal situation, he walked into a barn knee deep in steaming crap.The talent level on the current team is very good. As a group, probably better than in a long time. Certainly better than any year of the Owens era. A decent QB and last year's team wins 7-8 games. Two additional games get won with a decent QB...Miami, CMU.first of all BIGGS NOT getsy was the real glue on the '05 team...we saw what getsy was all about in '06...if jd's recruits have been so good....where are the wins?...the head coach is responsible for the entire operation...prep,game day and recruiting...so far with HIS guys jd ain't makin it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 GP1,Get a clue and your unsubstantiated facts straight before you make idiotic comments. I enjoy reading this site, but keep my opinions to myself. But I can not just let this post slide. This is one of the most idiotic, clueless comments I think anyone has ever made on this site. I, myself, can't comment on the players in JD's program right now because I am not around the situation on a daily basis. I can evaluate from TV or the stands. That's easy. So I am not going to say his players or Lee Owens players are better BECAUSE I am not there day in and day out. Sure some of the teams were bad (most of them) during the Lee Owens era. But don't make idiotic unintelligent comments. Stop and take a look at some players that have come out of the Lee Owens era:Dwight Smith, Chase Blackburn, Charlie Frye, Jake Schifino, Domenik Hixon, Lou Mackey, Ryan Myers (All guys who have had success in the NFL)Other guys who have played or went to camp with NFL Teams :Matt Cherry, Mike Brake, Jon Eaton, John Fuller, Konrad Dean, Jeff Grzeskowiak, Zac Derr, Willie Spencer (Transferred)I am sure I am missing some. But you GP1 being the football genius that you are, are right. There was no talent there. And Faust 1992 team with the best record was against a mixture of 1AA opponents. So check your own self-awareness. Just out of curiousity have you ever stepped foot on a football field for a D1 program? Didn't think so. So quit making idiotic statements because you got hurt in pee-wee football and never regained your spot back! good point...isn't it odd that when Hixon, Blackburn etc left after '05 the Zips have won what...its called the perfect storm...confluence of events...don't see it happening next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Wow GP1. That hardly deserves a response it's so idiotic. Since others already took care of you, I'll respond to skip-zips statement that our 4-8 record was somehow the fault of Owens final class. So you think that John Mackey, Jabari Arthur, and Mike Schepp were what was wrong with this year's team? I'd say they were about the only thing that was right.And since some of you seem to think there's more talent on the team now then any of Owen's teams, let's just compare Owens final team with some of JD's studs on this team.Offense:QB-2003: Charlie Frye2007: Chris JacquemainAdvantage: LOL... I think I'd give this one to the Owens guyRB-2003: Bobby Hendry2007: Bryan WilliamsAdvantage: Bobby was great, but we'll give this one to JD, even though he didn't recruit WilliamsFB-2003: Dan Basch2007: Joe TuzzeAdvantage: OwensTE-2003: Mike Brake2007: Merce PoindexterAdvantage: OwensWR-2003: Matt Cherry2007: Stephon FuquaAdvantage: LOL.... OwensWR-2003: Nick Sparks2007: Alphonso OwenAdvantage: LOL.... OwensWR-2003: Miquel Irvin2007: Brandon WilliamsAdvantage: LOL.... OwensOffensive Line: Wow.... The offensive line's Owens recruited make JD's recruits look like little boys, and 2003 was no exception.Advantage: OwensIf I remember correctly, that '03 offense finished 6th in the country. When any of JD's talent filled teams break 80, please let me know.Like I've said before, I'll give Brookhart one more year, but from my view he's done nothing but take the program down since he's been here, despite being given every institutional advantage his predecessor never had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-P Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 The interesting thing about the Owens players is that they were bad players, and they don't know they were bad. They have sort of this over inflated opinion of themselves that so many young people have today. There have actually been recent articles in the Wall Street Journal about this attitude and how to handle it. Perhaps they were kept in diapers too long as children. Maybe in time they will grow up. JD didn't walk into an ideal situation, he walked into a barn knee deep in steaming crap.Hi GP This has been read, noted, copied and will be disseminated into the hands of some folks who will be stopping by to say a special hello to you at their first convenient opportunities.I think you probably did this to get a rise from the board, but so what.............the toothpaste is out of the tube and can't be put back. Keep a styptic pencil and bandaides handy when you show up around Akron.................Just kidding Scratch that, no I wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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