Proenza Supports College Football Playoff

[Captain Kangaroo]

College D1-A Football Playoff Debate

[g-mann17]

College D1-A Football Playoff Debate

I support a playoff, I just feel it will never happen. The ideal format is to add one team to 1-a giving a total of 120 teams, then even all conferences out to 12 teams per conference. 10 conferences. Now here is were it get's interesting. Each conferences has a champion. 10 seeds. You take two at large teams (this is for a team like Georgia that had a superior record but didn't win its division in it's conference). You now have 12 teams and an NFL style playoff. The lowest ranked teams play the first week with the at large teams mixed into those games. The top 4 ranked teams sit out in a bye and wait for their opponents to be determined. Go from there.This works out to 11 games that can be played over 4-5 weeks following Conference Championship week. The real bowls (Cotton, Rose, Sugar, Orange) can be used for the 2nd week of the playoffs. The first week can be corporate sponsored or home field advantage. I say 4-5 weeks for it so that if necessary a hype week can be used before the National Championship game.Total potential games for a season (which is a big argument they use to keep the bowl system) 17; but it would probably be 15-16 for these 12 teams while the rest play 12. If need be the remainder of the top 25 can play in bowl games in and around the playoffs as consolation for being ranked but not making the playoffs.

[ziptrumpet87]

I was surprised to see Ball St. among the "keep it the way it is" group.

[zen]

I like that,g-mann, but it sorta sounds like you wanna reorganize conferences. :blink: But I definitely think that 8 teams is too few.I think the only reason they propose 8 teams is because the season is too long already.But I think that only 8 teams promotes perennial elitism.I think that the top 24 teams should go.Shorten the regular season requirement by one game.The top 8 teams get a first week bye.So, there would be 8 games the first week.8 games the second week.4 games the third week2 games the fourth week.and then the national championship game.Probably the biggest reason this would not fly is because the big conferences cling to their lucrative bowls. No good way to work them in evenly

[Kangaroo Craig]

I like that,g-mann, but it sorta sounds like you wanna reorganize conferences. :blink: But I definitely think that 8 teams is too few.I think the only reason they propose 8 teams is because the season is too long already.But I think that only 8 teams promotes perennial elitism.I think that the top 24 teams should go.Shorten the regular season requirement by one game.The top 8 teams get a first week bye.So, there would be 8 games the first week.8 games the second week.4 games the third week2 games the fourth week.and then the national championship game.Probably the biggest reason this would not fly is because the big conferences cling to their lucrative bowls. No good way to work them in evenly

This is a good format. 24 teams means that at least one gets in from the MAC. However, I wouldn't count on this ever flying. I would love to believe that their (NCAA's) reasoning for limiting the playoff to eight teams is because they feel the season is too long, but I'm not buying that excuse. The real reason is so they can assure themselves of locking out schools from smaller conferences such as the MAC, WAC, MWC, and Sunbelt. Somehow they will figure out a way to continue the status quo that keeps all of the money and power in the hands of the BCS schools. Although a playoff system under their 8 or "plus one" format will be better than what we have now, it will still be extremely flawed, and Alumni like us and ones from other MAC schools, will not like the outcome. It will basically be similar to last year's basketball tourney where a team like Akron wins alot more games than another school (From a BCS conference), but is snubbed because a group of committee elitists decide that we are not worthy because we are "From the MAC". The NCAA totally sucks. I love Zips athletics, but I know that being a fan of Akron means that we will never get a fair shake.

[Buckzip]

College D1-A Football Playoff Debate

A playoff would be great. DIAA does it so can DI.There will still be unhappy people. If they take the top 4 teams, then the teams that are 5-6 will complain, if they take the top 8 teams then the teams that are 8-9 will complain.They need to do something. The current system sucks.

[skip-zip]

g-mann...the big boys would never go for just the winners of each conference, and a couple of wild cards, getting into the playoffs. It doesn't really leave the stronger conferences with more representation. But...I do think that a "best 12 teams", nfl-type system would work. At 12 teams, you would be going deep enough (probably) that #13 could never say "hey, we were the best team in the country". And it's also a reasonable amount of teams to have a playoff that doesn't extend the season too much. But, how do you mix this into the bowl games? Or, is this after the bowl games?I think the reason why this has never happened is because they just can't find a way to do it. College football would be breaking 100+ years of traditions, and the current BCS system was a way to compromise between the two. I'm still thinking that it will be quite a few years before they will scrap what they have now, and try something else.

[GP1]

A playoff system has basically made every other divisions regular season irrelevant. The same 12 teams make it every year and they mix in four different teams periodically.The issue nobody ever addresses when discussing playoffs is what the NCAA would do to level the playing field between those who make the playoffs and those who do not. The NFL does this through scheduling, draft picks and salary caps to name a couple of big ones. The NCAA has no mechanism to do this. An unlevel playing field is the reason why the same teams make it in every year in the other divisions. The advantages they have are recruiting and practice time. Practice time is the most important to the future of the program, at least for the next season. Why is practice time important? Let's face it, a playoff is the end of bowls just like the 64 team NCAA BB Tournament has made the NIT a joke. The bowls would go away. Teams making the playoffs would have additional time to develop their young players during the playoff period for the following season. A guy who works for me played for Clemson long ago and said that at their bowl game practices this year they spent at least 30 minutes per practice with the red shirts and second/third team players in full contact drills to evaluate and coach them. The further you make it into a playoff, the better chance you have of developing the team for the next year; thus creating the advantage between the teams that make the playoffs and those that do not.If there was a playoff, how do you correct this advantage? Great question again GP1! Limit scholarships? NO, this solution is too punitive. The trick is to only impact the playoff teams the year after making the playoffs and not years down the road. Here is my solution. I've never seen this idea anywhere so I think it may be original. Limit spring practices based upon how deep into the playoffs you go. 16 team playoff equals four weeks. Increase spring practice from 15 to 20 practices and an 11 game season (15 are way too few practices so the NCAA created the farce of a 12th game giving five extra practices in the fall in lieu of spring with a I-AA team or MAC team waiting at the end of the week).The more a team advances in the playoffs, the fewer spring practices they get. If you make the playoffs, you only get 15 spring practices, those that don't make it get all 20. If you win one playoff game, you only get 10 spring practices. If you make it to the final four, you only get 5 spring practices. If you make the championship game, you get none.